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Bentiko
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Yikes, it's been awhile on this site. I brought myself to this site for couple opinion.

Brought two boxes of A. Restored: Korean and Japanese. Haven't opened them yet. Should I? Wait it out and sell as whole or start cracking them up like crazy.

There a charity event (Crohn’s and Colitis Foundation) nearby my comic/card store and I want to support them. The format is 1v1 EDH using the ban list. I don't have a EDH deck and wondering which is the best general/decklist out there? I heard Giest/Uri/Sisay/Karn is popular over there....

EDIT: Oh yea. It's best of three with 10 cards sideboard.

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quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:
I would hate you too if you threw that in my face, in my store

Doesn't help that he constantly makes it know that magic players are bad, and screws them over at every chance.

Like less then a pack a person on 20+ person pre-releases, or not given out promo's, or kicking out the entire group to close early mid event.

I also (Due to it being the only game store for a hour or so) had been trying to help increase his business, and be respectful and helpful, can't help if he took that as me being rude *Shrugs*...

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quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:
I would hate you too if you threw that in my face, in my store

And you'd be just as awful as the owner in question.

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quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:
I would hate you too if you threw that in my face, in my store


Really? I would hate myself because I would want to know why this person thinks I am running a ****ty business.

 
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There's a difference between "throwing it in his face" and just talking to him and making suggestions about how he can make the store better. I mean, it's deteriorated to the point where they just hate each other so it doesn't exactly matter anymore. Store owner's clearly wrong in his underlying behavior, the manner in which you bring that up to him and try to get him to fix it can make you nearly just as bad even if you're technically right about things.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Bagbokk on May 05, 2012]
 
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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
And you'd be just as awful as the owner in question.



quote:
Originally posted by Speed Demon:

Really? I would hate myself because I would want to know why this person thinks I am running a ****ty business.

Don't like? Talk to me privately and don't flaunt that you know more than me (even if you do) or give me the impression that you want to run my store for me, I signed the lease and put the time and effort into this place, not you. So sometimes even if you think you know better, you don't know.

PS

Think I am awful? Get out of my store, I don't need your negativity when my players are here to have fun

 
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quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:

Don't like? Talk to me privately and don't flaunt that you know more than me (even if you do) or give me the impression that you want to run my store for me, I signed the lease and put the time and effort into this place, not you. So sometimes even if you think you know better, you don't know.

PS

Think I am awful? Get out of my store, I don't need your negativity when my players are here to have fun


If you're breaking WOTC's mandated rules, I have EVERY right to call you out on it, whether you like it or not. If you don't want to fix it, you risk losing your ability to sanction events. Loss of sanctioning in 99% of cases = store going under.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zakman86:
If you're breaking WOTC's mandated rules, I have EVERY right to call you out on it, whether you like it or not. If you don't want to fix it, you risk losing your ability to sanction events. Loss of sanctioning in 99% of cases = store going under.

And if you do this in front of a crowd of people then thank you for driving here, now please make a U turn and don't let the door hit you on your way out

 
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Wow... how are you still on your high horse when you know you are in the wrong in this case?
 
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who wants to guess bstrom is the store owner?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:
And if you do this in front of a crowd of people then thank you for driving here, now please make a U turn and don't let the door hit you on your way out

What you don't want others to know your screwing them over? Makes sense, but guess what your store or not you don't get to choose, kick me out and guess what you just lost everyone else to, so guess what either way you lose. Now wasn't that fun.

for the record and this is just for you, for years I tried the nice approach, trying to NOT throw it in his face, what I usually got was getting blown off, or he will half ass what I said, then complain that it sucks, and I was wrong.

So *Shrugs* Also for the record don't hate him, pity him, and just going to move on, in end he is just hurting himself, while its not more then a mild annoyance for me.

One last point, never understood the whole community store, but expecting to do things "Your" way, seems to contradict itself, if you have a community store, guess what you kind of set yourself up to have to please said community, if you don't care, why start such a store to begin with?

EDIT: Speed Demon, I seriously doubt it, Owner isn't a gamer, and this guy honestly actually sounds nicer as a whole, also my store owner could care less about the players having fun, he has proven that a few times, last being Friday night.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
What you don't want others to know your screwing them over? Makes sense, but guess what your store or not you don't get to choose, kick me out and guess what you just lost everyone else to, so guess what either way you lose. Now wasn't that fun.

for the record and this is just for you, for years I tried the nice approach, trying to NOT throw it in his face, what I usually got was getting blown off, or he will half ass what I said, then complain that it sucks, and I was wrong.

So *Shrugs* Also for the record don't hate him, pity him, and just going to move on, in end he is just hurting himself, while its not more then a mild annoyance for me.

One last point, never understood the whole community store, but expecting to do things "Your" way, seems to contradict itself, if you have a community store, guess what you kind of set yourself up to have to please said community, if you don't care, why start such a store to begin with?

EDIT: Speed Demon, I seriously doubt it, Owner isn't a gamer, and this guy honestly actually sounds nicer as a whole, also my store owner could care less about the players having fun, he has proven that a few times, last being Friday night.


I will admit that the nice guy approach has its draw backs. Unless you are a big store that deals with multiple games with a very loyal costumer base, I am pretty sure it's not a very profitable business.

With that being said, I have been to a store where the payout was a pack/person on a $5 entry fee or even better the prize was ftv:relic, $10 entry fee with min of 12 players or else it's 2 packs per person for 1st place. So it's not hard to believe that some owners will try to pull a fast one and see if he can make some extra cash with the promos.

So if I am the store owner and you catch me doing soemthing like that and confront me in front of other people, I am going to defend my territory regardless of how right you actually are. However, if you pull me to the said and say something like "Maybe I am wrong, but I thought so and so..." I will immediately know that you are on to me, but now you just gave me a chance to take a step me and say "oh, really? let me look into that"

Not saying it will work every time, but you did just give me a chance to think about what I did without making me look a fool in front of other people. But if I am adamant about continuing my shady business pratice, there's really nothing else you can do at that moment, but now you are in the position to decide if you want to leave, try to congregate others or just have fun and let it go.


quote:
Originally posted by Drexus:
Wow... how are you still on your high horse when you know you are in the wrong in this case?

It's human nature

quote:
Originally posted by Speed Demon:
who wants to guess bstrom is the store owner?


If I ever own a store, let me know if you ever show up, I will make sure I run out of promos when I get to your table

[Edited 1 times, lastly by bstrom213 on May 05, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:
I will admit that the nice guy approach has its draw backs. Unless you are a big store that deals with multiple games with a very loyal costumer base, I am pretty sure it's not a very profitable business.

With that being said, I have been to a store where the payout was a pack/person on a $5 entry fee or even better the prize was ftv:relic, $10 entry fee with min of 12 players or else it's 2 packs per person for 1st place. So it's not hard to believe that some owners will try to pull a fast one and see if he can make some extra cash with the promos.

So if I am the store owner and you catch me doing soemthing like that and confront me in front of other people, I am going to defend my territory regardless of how right you actually are. However, if you pull me to the said and say something like "Maybe I am wrong, but I thought so and so..." I will immediately know that you are on to me, but now you just gave me a chance to take a step me and say "oh, really? let me look into that"

Not saying it will work every time, but you did just give me a chance to think about what I did without making me look a fool in front of other people. But if I am adamant about continuing my shady business pratice, there's really nothing else you can do at that moment, but now you are in the position to decide if you want to leave, try to congregate others or just have fun and let it go.


Yup, tried the take aside approach, turned into, I'm right your wrong, screw WoTC, leave.

Caught him in a couple lies, and so has WoTC, so *Shrugs*

and 3$ Pack person, 2-1 was the prize breakdown for FNM, regardless of player #'s...

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Quick question: Suppose you're playing U/R Delver (standard). Turn 1, you have the option to play Delver or Stromkirk Noble. All things being equal, which do you drop and why? The issue came up last night and I'm curious of opinions here.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by coasterdude84:
Quick question: Suppose you're playing U/R Delver (standard). Turn 1, you have the option to play Delver or Stromkirk Noble. All things being equal, which do you drop and why? The issue came up last night and I'm curious of opinions here.

Think it would heavily depend on what I was playing against.

Vacuum play probably delver if I got a ponder, Stromkirk Noble otherwise.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Yup, tried the take aside approach, turned into, I'm right your wrong, screw WoTC, leave.

Caught him in a couple lies, and so has WoTC, so *Shrugs*

and 3$ Pack person, 2-1 was the prize breakdown for FNM, regardless of player #'s...



Not much you can do at that point, I would say report him and go to war, but having him as the owner of the only store within an hour does eat butt

 
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quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:
Not much you can do at that point, I would say report him and go to war, but having him as the owner of the only store within an hour does eat butt

lol...War it is, they are starting to ban off all the vocal players...

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quote:
Originally posted by coasterdude84:
Quick question: Suppose you're playing U/R Delver (standard). Turn 1, you have the option to play Delver or Stromkirk Noble. All things being equal, which do you drop and why? The issue came up last night and I'm curious of opinions here.

It's not called UR Noble, so I'd play the delved

 
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^^ lol

anyways, my eyes are tired of rolling back in my head every time I read someones "rules" and they state that any trade under $X (we'll say $10US) isn't worth the postage. These are also people who are in the US and state they only trade in the US. So a $9 trade isn't worth $0.48? Okay. The fun part is that 99% of the list is bulk and would be hard to dig up a trade worth $10.

Really sad because I am searching out a handful of $0.25 rares

 
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quote:
Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
^^ lol

anyways, my eyes are tired of rolling back in my head every time I read someones "rules" and they state that any trade under $X (we'll say $10US) isn't worth the postage. These are also people who are in the US and state they only trade in the US. So a $9 trade isn't worth $0.48? Okay. The fun part is that 99% of the list is bulk and would be hard to dig up a trade worth $10.

Really sad because I am searching out a handful of $0.25 rares


And then there are people like me who don't even bother putting those rares up because it takes too much time to keep track of them

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quote:
Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
^^ lol

anyways, my eyes are tired of rolling back in my head every time I read someones "rules" and they state that any trade under $X (we'll say $10US) isn't worth the postage. These are also people who are in the US and state they only trade in the US. So a $9 trade isn't worth $0.48? Okay. The fun part is that 99% of the list is bulk and would be hard to dig up a trade worth $10.

Really sad because I am searching out a handful of $0.25 rares



Sigh, use some common sense. Stamp+PWE is AT LEAST $0.5. Unless that person is searching for a card, why should he read offers where it's his $3 card for your $3 card.

 
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I hate looking for beta power on ebay and all you see are overpriced BIN and repacks
 
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quote:
Originally posted by LemonMeringue:
I hate looking for beta power on ebay and all you see are overpriced BIN and repacks

I feel your pain. I've been doing this for a year and I haven't found many auctions to bid on.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:
...So it's not hard to believe that some owners will try to pull a fast one and see if he can make some extra cash with the promos.

So if I am the store owner and you catch me doing soemthing like that and confront me in front of other people, I am going to defend my territory regardless of how right you actually are. However, if you pull me to the said and say something like "Maybe I am wrong, but I thought so and so..." I will immediately know that you are on to me, but now you just gave me a chance to take a step me and say "oh, really? let me look into that"

Not saying it will work every time, but you did just give me a chance to think about what I did without making me look a fool in front of other people. But if I am adamant about continuing my shady business pratice, there's really nothing else you can do at that moment, but now you are in the position to decide if you want to leave, try to congregate others or just have fun and let it go.


Wait, so if you're the store owner and you're doing something shady and you know that you are and are confronted privately you would respond with "Oh really? Let me look into that." as if you didn't know that what you were doing was shady?

quote:
Originally posted by bstrom213:
If I ever own a store, let me know if you ever show up, I will make sure I run out of promos when I get to your table

If you ever own a store, let me know which store it is and I'll try and remember to not go there.

quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
I feel your pain. I've been doing this for a year and I haven't found many auctions to bid on.

You guys should probably just stop looking. That way I don't have to bid against you when something does show up.

 
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Bstrom, no offense is meant, but you will find that if you lighten up a bit and give the players positive reinforcement instead of berating them (or at least zak) and insulting them your business would pick up. Local shop closed because of similar behavior...turns out people will drive 30 minutes to a town of 7k versus 45k to play at a shop where they feel appreciated.

Word to the wise.

Edit - Apparently bstrom doesn't own a store, business tip - don't start one yet :P
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