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Originally posted by airwalk:

These exist? What kind of store that claims to sell singles only open 'a' box?

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Bad ones, though I do know of a store that sells singles and opens no product at all, so.

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Bad ones, though I do know of a store that sells singles and opens no product at all, so.

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Originally posted by airwalk:
I get ya. There is a similar setup down home, I think of it as less a store and more of a crazy old man that hasn't cut his fingernails in 7 years in a strip mall trying to sell Jester's Caps for $20.

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lol...wow...still think I got you beat, but wow...

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Originally posted by airwalk:
I get ya. There is a similar setup down home, I think of it as less a store and more of a crazy old man that hasn't cut his fingernails in 7 years in a strip mall trying to sell Jester's Caps for $20.

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Some guy came around around Ravnica and was like "lol you wanna buy my old cards" and he had some caps and some painlands from ice age. I offered the ebay price and he was like ROFFLENO, gimme $20 each. Apparently he last played during Ice Age.

There's something about Jester's Caps and overvaluation. Must have been that wave of people who played mtg because it was a fad in 1995, didn't stick with it, and then never sold off their cards.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Some guy came around around Ravnica and was like "lol you wanna buy my old cards" and he had some caps and some painlands from ice age. I offered the ebay price and he was like ROFFLENO, gimme $20 each. Apparently he last played during Ice Age.

There's something about Jester's Caps and overvaluation. Must have been that wave of people who played mtg because it was a fad in 1995, didn't stick with it, and then never sold off their cards.

You should mention Jester's Cap or Underworld Dreams whenever somebody is like, lol I wanna get cards to "invest." Then steer them towards low-risk bonds.

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My store lives about a year behind on prices, wurmcoils are 20+ still, Gideon is at Rise of Eldrazi prices, etc...lol

I think it would be nice and the people that do strive to make big personal collections/goals complete would like to share them without saying its a brag post.

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
My store lives about a year behind on prices, wurmcoils are 20+ still, Gideon is at Rise of Eldrazi prices, etc...lol

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Do they have pre-Modern shockland prices?

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That would require them to sell singles, they don't, hell they barely run events, was more talking about the players.

Sadly I think its time to cut Juzam from the cube, he's too underpowered.

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Originally posted by DConNexus:
How much do you value a NM foil M12 Gideon? Im definitely not doing it for 12.

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Anyone else think its silly for someone to get a bit snippy when auctions show he's 12 or under

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Gideon-Jura-Foil-NM-MTG-M12-Magic-2012-/290694796341?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43aec29435

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/4x-FOIL-Gideon-Jura-MTG-M12-M2012-MINT-/190663612705?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c646fd921

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Should I cut moat from my cube. Is it too overpowered?

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Originally posted by CubFan81:
Depends, what other cards do you have to help out control? Propaganda? Ghostly Prison? Norn's Annex?

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None of those, Teferi's moat exists in it.

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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
Is it okay to make a thread for people to post about/pics of what they personally collect? Or is that against the whole "Salvation Nooooooo" Rule this community seems to enforce?

I think it would be nice and the people that do strive to make big personal collections/goals complete would like to share them without saying its a brag post.

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Originally posted by coasterdude84:
Go for it. You'll probably get a handful of people that do the "Salvation Nooooooooooo," but I imagine you'd also get a lot of good, positive responses and some interesting pictures. I'd certainly post.

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I've been waiting for an excuse to show off my Serra Angels!

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Should I cut moat from my cube. Is it too overpowered?

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Yes, Juzam is bad.

If you're running the standard "all best cards" cube, then moat is fine.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Yes, Juzam is bad.

If you're running the standard "all best cards" cube, then moat is fine.

Otherwise, it's randomly a huge time sink if your playing against some deck that doesn't have very many flyers or enchantment removal. I can see a R/B deck killing all of your threats but not being able to push through enough damage for eons because of a moat in play.

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Its best cards but it tries to allow different themes so i've asked for help on facebook before to friends

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlHIOoL0opWbdEpoRkgwc2phc3dOVUNJR1BacWN2MHc

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
i think Moat is fine if you put Levitation in the cube

If the only thing you can think of to say about a spoiled card is "SO BROKEN/BONKERS in EDH" then that probably means its actually a bad card.

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That's usually what i mean when i say its good in EDH Since its my favorite casual format.

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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
Is it okay to make a thread for people to post about/pics of what they personally collect? Or is that against the whole "Salvation Nooooooo" Rule this community seems to enforce?

I think it would be nice and the people that do strive to make big personal collections/goals complete would like to share them without saying its a brag post.

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It seems like we used to have one of these, or maybe I'm just not remembering right. No doubt about it, there will be some who will post brag posts, but I wouldn't mind showing off my ginormous stack of Nodorogs.

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Originally posted by nderdog:
It seems like we used to have one of these, or maybe I'm just not remembering right. No doubt about it, there will be some who will post brag posts, but I wouldn't mind showing off my ginormous stack of Nodorogs.

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I have some that I've been saving and I want to someday send them your way. do you accept some one them signed ( by me), or you'd much rather have them plain.?

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
That's usually what i mean when i say its good in EDH Since its my favorite casual format.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:

Its best cards but it tries to allow different themes so i've asked for help on facebook before to friends

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlHIOoL0opWbdEpoRkgwc2phc3dOVUNJR1BacWN2M Hc

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Steppe Lynx is bad.
Korlash in a singleton cube is bad.
Dark ritual is bad
Liliana 1 is bad
No phantasmal bear?
Jushi Apprentice is too slow
Jace 1 isn't that great
Capsize is oppressive
Ball lightning seems like it wouldn't be cast very much
Rack and Ruin is bad
Molten Rain is narrow
No Garruk 2 or 3? No overrun? No invigorate? Cut one random big dude from the many, many ones there are.
Blightsteel out.
Voltaic key out
I'd cut p9. It's cool to play with but in practise all it does is allow people to steal games that they really shouldn't have won. Sol ring is the absolute worst here. But if you are going to play them, add Mana Crypt.
Tattermunge maniac sucks
Augury Adept sucks
Tolarian academy when you have so few artifacts?
Lotus petal/bloom/whatever is only really good turn 1 to steal games or in combo, but you aren't really enabling combo here.
You're missing a lot of the newer good stuff like porcelain legionnaire.
You could run more equipment. The 5 swords and jitte are borderline oppressive, especially if it happens to be the two colors of your opponent's deck. Counterargument seems to be "but you can remove it" and yes, removal exists, but it's not like you'll guaranteed have a kill spell or naturalize in your hand just when you need it. Generally I want to minimize the types of cards that allow an opponent to "just win."

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Steppe Lynx is bad.
its pretty much always a kird ape or better, stays for the white
Korlash in a singleton cube is bad.
Haven't found him to be bad but i know he's cuttable
Dark ritual is bad
Reasons for it being bad?
Liliana 1 is bad
She seems to work fine in control, 2 tutors for 5 mana even if its across a couple turns
No phantasmal bear?
Blue really isn't aggro based
Jushi Apprentice is too slow
Will be replacing with a waterfront bouncer
Jace 1 isn't that great
Capsize is oppressive
Ball lightning seems like it wouldn't be cast very much
Mono Red or Red/x Decks work very well in the cube he gets played quite a bit
Rack and Ruin is bad
Not true when there are broken artifacts.
Molten Rain is narrow
With the ammount of non-basics this card is strong.
No Garruk 2 or 3? No overrun? No invigorate? Cut one random big dude from the many, many ones there are.
Garruk 2 needs to go in yes
Blightsteel out.
Tinker is in as is master transmuter
Voltaic key out
Still see's a decent ammount of play but its cuttable[\b]
I'd cut p9. It's cool to play with but in practise all it does is allow people to steal games that they really shouldn't have won. Sol ring is the absolute worst here. But if you are going to play them, add Mana Crypt.
[b]Not going to argue but that's the fun of is[\b]
Tattermunge maniac sucks
[b]Again, disagree another card that can be used in green or red aggro decks
Augury Adept sucks
will be replaced with Geist
Tolarian academy when you have so few artifacts?
There are 89 non-colored artifacts. And many mana artifacts its worth leaving in

Lotus petal/bloom/whatever is only really good turn 1 to steal games or in combo, but you aren't really enabling combo here.
yup sometimes cards are dead or very good

You're missing a lot of the newer good stuff like porcelain legionnaire.
could replace savvanah lions for sure

You could run more equipment. The 5 swords and jitte are borderline oppressive, especially if it happens to be the two colors of your opponent's deck. Counterargument seems to be "but you can remove it" and yes, removal exists, but it's not like you'll guaranteed have a kill spell or naturalize in your hand just when you need it. Generally I want to minimize the types of cards that allow an opponent to "just win."

That's the point of it sometimes you just win

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Notes above, some counterpoints but things are different from person to person as well.

My cubing group enjoys it.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Notes above, some counterpoints but things are different from person to person as well.

My cubing group enjoys it.

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Shrug, it's just advice, take it as you will. I prefer games with maximum interactivity.

Tattermunge is a really bad topdeck. I'd even play thirsty lion over it.