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Volcanon
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:

I guess that is one of the pitfalls of being a small set. Reminds me of dka

This set is going to be awesome for draft.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
Man....unless something comes along and REALLY blows my mind, this set looks pretty bad so far. I'm usually very optimistic,

Oh please, Dane, you were the one forecasting that GTC was a waste of a set and would have zero impact on standard during its run after the first post-GTC tournament. :P

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Oh please, Dane, you were the one forecasting that GTC was a waste of a set and would have zero impact on standard during its run after the first post-GTC tournament. :P


Lawyer'd!

But seriously this set does look bad.

quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
It is, but not all decks play sphinx's revelation. Many decks don't even draw extra cards, hence it's "meh" and not "crap". I wish this card had, "when this enters the battlefield you may gain control of target spell or ability"- something with a lot more utility.

Sideboard tech maybe. It's definitely "meh" overall, but I think it's a really cool effect. I also kind of hate Sphinx's, so anything that even suggests stopping it is cool.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by hilikuS on April 18, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by flam flawless:
I'm thinkin plagiarize didn't see play...this guy is meh.

I think he's better than meh. Plagiarize only lasts for that turn, a 3/1 body isn't great but it would need to be answered. He can take out a blocking Deathrite Shaman or Stoneforge Mystic (though they'd likely have Batterskull in play) or Dark Confidant or Bloodbraid Elf. He can keep pace with a Vendilion Clique.

Someone will try to find a way to make him work in Legacy. Not sure how successful they'll be though.

Forget responding to Brainstorms, I want to put it in on my opponents Show and Tell for Griselbrand.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by CubFan81:
I think he's better than meh. Plagiarize only lasts for that turn, a 3/1 body isn't great but it would need to be answered. He can take out a blocking Deathrite Shaman or Stoneforge Mystic (though they'd likely have Batterskull in play) or Dark Confidant or Bloodbraid Elf. He can keep pace with a Vendilion Clique.

Someone will try to find a way to make him work in Legacy. Not sure how successful they'll be though.

Forget responding to Brainstorms, I want to put it in on my opponents Show and Tell for Griselbrand.


Yes, however will he beat your 3/1 with a 7/7 lifelinking monster that flies (I'm kidding, but that was the first thing that came to mind. Obviously you may have removal).

 
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~Skylasher
1G
Creature - Spider
Flash
~ can't be countered.
Reach, protection from blue
2/2

Where was this when Delver was good?


~Dragonshift
1UR
Instant
Target creature you control becomes a 4/4
Dragon with flying until end of turn.
Overload 3UURR

Ready//Willing
1GW//1WB
Instant//Instant
Creatures you control are indestructible this turn.
//
Creatures you control gain deathtouch and lifelink
until end of turn.
Fuse

 
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~Reap Intellect
X2UB
Sorcery
Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose X non-land cards from among them. Search that player's library, hand and graveyard for cards with the same name as those cards and exile them. Then, that player shuffles his or her library.

More Sphinx's hate!

 
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quote:
Originally posted by mulder:

Notion Thief
Creature - Human Rogue
Flash
If an opponent would draw a card except the first one he or she draws in each of his or her draw steps, instead that player skips that draw and you draw a card.
3/1


This in response to Brainstorm. Owwww yeahhhh...


and then on your turn cast anvil of bogardan and see how many turns you can go without getting punched in the face.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by rockondon on April 18, 2013]
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
~Reap Intellect
X2UB
Sorcery
Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose X non-land cards from among them. Search that player's library, hand and graveyard for cards with the same name as those cards and exile them. Then, that player shuffles his or her library.

More Sphinx's hate!


Good luck beating the Blue deck with a card that (at minimum) costs 5 to get 1 card, and that I can Revelation in response to.

 
daner
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Oh please, Dane, you were the one forecasting that GTC was a waste of a set and would have zero impact on standard during its run after the first post-GTC tournament. :P


Hey! I don't bitch and moan and say I'm quitting Magic bc they don't reprint "X". I WAS hopeful that GTC would be a fun limited format, which it was at first...but got very repettitive.

I am optimistic that this set can still bring change to a stale Standard format, an invention of some new deck. Yet looking through the cards I know I don't see it. I'm not being negative...I'm just calling it like I see it.

As I stated before, I'm much more of a limited guy, and this set seems really good for limited so far. So there...ass :P


EDIT: man there are so major limited blowouts tho....Ready/Willing is absurd! And Dragonshift seems like another card that if you overlaod the game just ends. Showstopper is really cool, I like the idea, and seems great if set up right.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by daner on April 18, 2013]

 
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I don't want to jump the gun too much as I'm still learning a lot when it comes to magic knowledge.

However, I want to just say overall I'm unimpressed with this set. A lot of the "good" cards are just being hyped at the moment but I dont see having a huge impact in constructed.

Some of the cards may see play, but everything just seems meh.

I'm going to attribute this set to being a little rough to the lead designer. I don't remember his name, but he won the Magic Intern contest. He wrote an article about being new to lead design and I think that shows. This set had a really complicated role to play in the cycle, and i don't know if a novice designer was the right choice.


All of this could be me being clueless, but I can't admit to that... not yet

favorite cards so far.

Render Silent (standard)
Ral Zarek (constructed across formats)
Nivix Cyclops (pauper)
Advent of the Wurm (standard)
Blood Baron of Vizcopa (Standard)

cards being overhyped
Voice of Resurgence

 
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quote:
Originally posted by walkerdog:
Good luck beating the Blue deck with a card that (at minimum) costs 5 to get 1 card, and that I can Revelation in response to.

It's obviously not good sphinx's hate, but I think the idea is to cast this after the control player taps out for sphinx's. Exile most of the stuff they just drew and all the other copies from their deck.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
It's obviously not good sphinx's hate, but I think the idea is to cast this after the control player taps out for sphinx's. Exile most of the stuff they just drew and all the other copies from their deck.

Not to be a jerk, but why would the guy with Sphinx's tap out to play it on his own turn?

 
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Set is pretty meh so far.

I really like the fuse that has half indestructible and half lifelink/deathtouch.

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quote:
Originally posted by hilikuS:
Not to be a jerk, but why would the guy with Sphinx's tap out to play it on his own turn?

He is bad or has gain life to survive an attack.

This card would need to be an instant to effectively counter the card draw from sphinx.

It is bad hate, but it does seem designed to be the counterpart to sphinx's draw.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
He is bad or has gain life to survive an attack.

This card would need to be an instant to effectively counter the card draw from sphinx.

It is bad hate, but it does seem designed to be the counterpart to sphinx's draw.


it does have flash

 
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Set looks ok, actually. A lot of the fuse cards look playable at least in standard, there are actually interesting EDH cards in the set, and there are definitely some sleepers in the set.

Who knows, we might get another reckoner situation as well, where R&D fails to spoil the biggest impact card until the final spoiler release.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
it does have flash

He is talking about Reap Intellect, which is NOT a Sphinx hate. Anyway, the card is pretty awful.

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Set is pretty meh so far.

I really like the fuse that has half indestructible and half lifelink/deathtouch.


Aside from a couple cards (wurm token & the u/r PW & maybe the 5 drop pro b/w vamp) i agree with this.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
He is talking about Reap Intellect, which is NOT a Sphinx hate. Anyway, the card is pretty awful.


Was going to say. Reap Intellect is terrible sphinx counter.

 
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Ætherling
4UU
Creature - Shapeshifter
U: Exile Ætherling. Return it to the battlefield
under it's owners control,at the beginning of
the next end step.
U: Ætherling is unblockable this turn
1: Ætherling gets +1/-1 until end of turn.
1: Ætherling gets -1/+1 until end of turn.
4/5

[Edited 1 times, lastly by skizzikmonger on April 18, 2013]
 
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Warped Physique and Unflinching Courage are nice.

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Funny (I think) how they basically reprint Armadillo Cloak but print a bad version of Lobotomy.

In other news, f someone knows a good place to go for the pre-release in San Diego, let me know. I'll be there that weekend and will have hours to kill that morning.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Ætherling
4UU
Creature - Shapeshifter
U: Exile Ætherling. Return it to the battlefield
under it's owners control,at the beginning of
the next end step.
U: Ætherling is unblockable this turn
1: Ætherling gets +1/-1 until end of turn.
1: Ætherling gets -1/+1 until end of turn.
4/5

Oh look, a morphling upgrade that's rare and not mythic. I'm saving this to trot out for every "bawww why does wizards make all the super powerful cards mythic bawwww"

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Oh look, a morphling upgrade that's rare and not mythic. I'm saving this to trot out for every "bawww why does wizards make all the super powerful cards mythic bawwww"

It should have been mythic, and white and W: lifelink


[Edited 1 times, lastly by marlo213 on April 19, 2013]

 

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