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Pail42
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quote:
Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
In other news, f someone knows a good place to go for the pre-release in San Diego, let me know. I'll be there that weekend and will have hours to kill that morning.

I think somebody usually runs one downtown at the convention center. I went to the COK event there and it was well run.

I've had a member here recommend Villanous Lair Games in the Normal Heights area, but I haven't gone yet.

There's a shop called San Diego Games and Comics in the Mira Mesa area that looks to be very popular and I have visited, but never played at.


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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Ætherling
4UU
Creature - Shapeshifter
U: Exile Ætherling. Return it to the battlefield
under it's owners control,at the beginning of
the next end step.
U: Ætherling is unblockable this turn
1: Ætherling gets +1/-1 until end of turn.
1: Ætherling gets -1/+1 until end of turn.
4/5

I want to like this card, but why did they make it cost 6!

6 for an unblockable 4/5 with the other abilities is definitely balanced, but why not redesign the card a little bit to fit into the 3XX mana cost?

This set just seems off.

EDIT: I know this is trivial, but I still wish it was 3UU

[Edited 1 times, lastly by mcelraca on April 19, 2013]

 
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They primarily wanted it as a finisher in the control vs. control matchup.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/243

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
I think somebody usually runs one downtown at the convention center. I went to the COK event there and it was well run.

Things have changed a lot since then. When Kamigawa block was out, prereleases were traditionally held in a small number of large venues (I think only a couple in the entire state of Oregon if my memory is accurate). Now that most stores hold prereleases, I wouldn't be so sure that many are held in convention centers now, so worth checking around for current info.

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quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
Things have changed a lot since then. When Kamigawa block was out, prereleases were traditionally held in a small number of large venues (I think only a couple in the entire state of Oregon if my memory is accurate). Now that most stores hold prereleases, I wouldn't be so sure that many are held in convention centers now, so worth checking around for current info.


The big events suuuucked. Crazy expensive and only a couple dealers because they had bribed the store-owner to not allow others in. And in the middle of nowhere.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
I've had a member here recommend Villanous Lair Games in the Normal Heights area, but I haven't gone yet.

They look to be a lot closer to where I'll be so Im going to see if I can swing by.

If there was one at the convention center that would be cool. The wife has a conference there that weekend. But, it's a pretty big (15-20k people) so that would be a deterrent for MtG

And, of course, my luck. I didn't do more research. Games and Comics is doing Legacy this coming Thursday. Left my decks at home *le sigh

 
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I miss the big prereleases. Always did well in them.

EDIT: Also like Gaze of Granite.
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Originally posted by ryan2754:
I miss the big prereleases. Always did well in them.

EDIT: Also like Gaze of Granite.


+1. Also is Woodlot Crawler an anti tarmagoyf card?

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I like the new 2RG enchant. Orcish oriflame + familiar ground in one package feels solid.

quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
+1. Also is Woodlot Crawler an anti tarmagoyf card?


It's an anti green card, it doesn't seem to specifically hate on tarmagoyf - aren't 'goyfs normally 2/3 or bigger when they swing? This would just wall-up against that since it doesn't have vigilance to counter attack or deathtouch to kill the 'goyf.

It might do well in standard against experiment one / flinthoof boar / burning tree emissary / mayor of avabruck(sp?) decks.

 
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Originally posted by revenger:
+1. Also is Woodlot Crawler an anti tarmagoyf card?


most certainly not. it's just another Zombie Outlander.

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I know for the pre-release, you pick your guild and get a secret guild from a matching color of the other set.

Have there been any details regarding whether the secret guild is always the same for each guild?

For example, does everyone who picks Boros all get the same secret guild?

It's unclear from the details here, but it doesn't say random, which leads me to believe it will be fixed:

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Events.aspx?x=mtgcom/events/prerelease-facts


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wont this one Deadbridge Chant
rock EDH decks?!
 
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quote:
Originally posted by evilempire22:
I know for the pre-release, you pick your guild and get a secret guild from a matching color of the other set.

Have there been any details regarding whether the secret guild is always the same for each guild?

For example, does everyone who picks Boros all get the same secret guild?

It's unclear from the details here, but it doesn't say random, which leads me to believe it will be fixed:

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Events.aspx?x=mtgcom/events/prerelease-facts


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No, if you pick one of the RTR Guilds, you will also get 1 of the 4 GTC Guilds (equal chance) that share a color with your guild. If you pick one of the GTC Guilds, you will also get 1 of the 4 RTR Guilds that share a color with your guild. When you are handed your box, you will know which two guilds you have.

 
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Originally posted by rats60:
No, if you pick one of the RTR Guilds, you will also get 1 of the 4 GTC Guilds (equal chance) that share a color with your guild. If you pick one of the GTC Guilds, you will also get 1 of the 4 RTR Guilds that share a color with your guild. When you are handed your box, you will know which two guilds you have.

So if I pick Golgari, which of the gtc guilds do I NOT stand not getting?

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quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
So if I pick Golgari, which of the gtc guilds do I NOT stand not getting?

The only guild without black or green which is Boros

 
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Originally posted by rats60:
No, if you pick one of the RTR Guilds, you will also get 1 of the 4 GTC Guilds (equal chance) that share a color with your guild. If you pick one of the GTC Guilds, you will also get 1 of the 4 RTR Guilds that share a color with your guild. When you are handed your box, you will know which two guilds you have.

I know how it works. I am asking if anyone that pick Boros will always get the same "secret" guild from RTR. Or will it be random?

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quote:
Originally posted by evilempire22:
I know how it works. I am asking if anyone that pick Boros will always get the same "secret" guild from RTR. Or will it be random?

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He's trying to say no. It is random.

Personally I'm planning on going izzet if I can; still want a chance of grabbing niv-mizzet and izzet makes a great support guild for whoever I end up opening. Either it'll be Boros battalion plus izzet removal and combat tricks (wee teleportal), or gruul-izzet midrange using izzet combat tricks on big gruul creatures and blood rushing tiny izzet evasive ones, or simic with (again) izzet removal and combat tricks, or dimir with more removal and evasive creatures for effective ciphering. Plus then rakdos would be my tertiary guild and any decent spells from Dgm could come in.

 
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Originally posted by evilempire22:
I know how it works. I am asking if anyone that pick Boros will always get the same "secret" guild from RTR. Or will it be random?

--Evil


No, it will be random. If you pick Boros, in the case there will be 4 different Boros boxes. Boros-Selesnya, Boros-Rakdos, Boros-Izzet, and Boros-Azorius. The To/Judge will give you one of the 4.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by evilempire22:
I know how it works. I am asking if anyone that pick Boros will always get the same "secret" guild from RTR. Or will it be random?

--Evil


Scroll down to the guild pre-release pack table, it will help clarify things.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/244

 
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These effers at wizards are really really smart. I am not sure if I am envious of them or hate them (maybe both?) I can't believe they made such a <snip> set knowing that it will still meet the sales quota simply by putting shocks in them. Honestly, if they didn't do that, I am very sure that this set will be one of the lowest selling set within the last 3-4 years. I was going to buy a case too, but now I am pretty sure I will just be drafting

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Originally posted by marlo213:
These effers at wizards are really really smart. I am not sure if I am envious of them or hate them (maybe both?) I can't believe they made such a <snip> set knowing that it will still meet the sales quota simply by putting shocks in them. Honestly, if they didn't do that, I am very sure that this set will be one of the lowest selling set within the last 3-4 years. I was going to buy a case too, but now I am pretty sure I will just be drafting

Aren't you getting close to -6 or -7 or whatever yet? This seems like another tick closer to it anyway.

Dragon's maze is awesome. Remember how awful third sets used to be? Stuff like Saviors, Scourge, etc.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Jazaray on April 22, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
Remember how awful third sets used to be? Stuff like Saviors, Scourge, etc.

Saviors was bad, but Scourge was really fun - Legions was the turd in Onslaught block.

 
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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Aren't you getting close to -6 or -7 or whatever yet? This seems like another tick closer to it anyway.

Dragon's maze is awesome. Remember how awful third sets used to be? Stuff like Saviors, Scourge, etc.


You sir, have no taste (or play only edh). And if you are talking about karma, I am sure mine is higher than yours.

And yes, I know there were some really terrible sets, but things have been really good since M2010

 
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There are 26 cards in this set I can use at least 1 copy of for decks I already have, let alone ones I might make in the future, plus all 10 shocks.
 
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Skylasher reminds me of Great Sable Stag. It will probably be a hit or miss SB card in standard, depends on the meta game post rotation.

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