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Topic: The Post For Dragon's Maze Discussion
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wayne
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posted April 14, 2013 04:39 AM
        
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Originally posted by junichi:
I will be the party pooper and say Voice of Resurgence looks better on paper than in real play.The card has awesome abilities and is aggressively cost, but at the end of the day, it relies heavily on your opponent's action to trigger it. It's almost like a Grand Abolisher that your opponent could choose to ignore in critical moments. It's still great to get something out of it when it dies though.
I'm with juni, and terminus is still floating around.
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CubFan81
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posted April 14, 2013 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by mulder:
Would you be ble to imprint this on an Isochron Scepter and play both abilities with fuse? Or even seperately?
No. As far as I can tell you can only Fuse if you are casting it from your hand. If it's imprinted on Scepter you just pick one side, if you cascade into it you just pick one side, if you give it flashback with Snapcaster you just pick one side.
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pugowar
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posted April 14, 2013 06:42 AM
Is it just me or is it kind of lame to see this kind of hoser card a mythic?
Both deathrite shaman and cavern of souls were great hoser cards at a Rare rarity. The article points to them as similar cards to VoR. Just think it would have been better at Rare.
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Link139232
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posted April 14, 2013 02:23 PM
Mana Rock3 Artifact Tap, add one mana to your pool of guild color.
Both Guild Color, Sac, draw a card. One for each guild.
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Pail42
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posted April 14, 2013 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Link139232:
Mana Rock ... One for each guild.
I understand that a set of cards like this is good for limited, but I always hope for interesting uncommons and these are taking up 10 slots in a small set 
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stinkinogre
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posted April 14, 2013 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by Link139232:
Mana Rock3 Artifact Tap, add one mana to your pool of guild color.
Both Guild Color, Sac, draw a card. One for each guild.
I like these for edh.
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MeddlingMage
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posted April 14, 2013 04:30 PM
I'd be up for a reprint of Fellwar Stone.
I used to always run some, even if just for some colorless...especially in my Artifact decks  ~MM Edit: Original art, of course! __________________
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[Edited 1 times, lastly by MeddlingMage on April 14, 2013]
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thror
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posted April 14, 2013 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
I'd be up for a reprint of Fellwar Stone.
I used to always run some, even if just for some colorless...especially in my Artifact decks ~MM Edit: Original art, of course!
thats kinda cheaty.
10/4/2004 The ability can be activated if the opponent has no lands that produce mana, but the effect will not be able to generate any mana. 10/1/2009 The colors of mana are white, blue, black, red, and green. Fellwar Stone can't be tapped for colorless mana, even if a land an opponent controls could produce colorless mana. __________________
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MeddlingMage
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posted April 14, 2013 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by thror:
thats kinda cheaty.10/4/2004 The ability can be activated if the opponent has no lands that produce mana, but the effect will not be able to generate any mana. 10/1/2009 The colors of mana are white, blue, black, red, and green. Fellwar Stone can't be tapped for colorless mana, even if a land an opponent controls could produce colorless mana.
Don't be so literal dude. I would make a color...we'll say green. Then use it in my colorless cost of my white spell. Didn't think I'd have to spell it out, but... ~MM __________________
Blah, blah, blah werewolf. Smackity-smack not a werewolf. Suspicious of this fruit loop.
My vote this round will be for Player X.New keeper of the Logout button
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thror
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posted April 14, 2013 05:17 PM
then play Mind Stone. still makes mana, isnt 100% useless after you dont need it.__________________
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[16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
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WeedIan
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posted April 14, 2013 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Don't be so literal dude. I would make a color...we'll say green. Then use it in my colorless cost of my white spell. Didn't think I'd have to spell it out, but... ~MM
Technically that means that you can't play it in a colorless edh deck because you can't make colorless mana with it __________________
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Devonin
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posted April 14, 2013 07:40 PM
In EDH, you aren't forbidden from using an effect that generated mana coloured outside your commander's colour identity. If you were playing a U/G commander and took control of someone's swamp, you can still tap it.All that happens is when it tries to add an illegal colour of mana to your mana pool, it adds colourless instead. So the Fellwar Stone can tap for say, green, and then the underlying rules of the game change it to colourless as it comes into your mana pool.
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hilikuS
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posted April 14, 2013 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by pugowar:
Is it just me or is it kind of lame to see this kind of hoser card a mythic?
Super lame, and it doesn't even seem good.
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iccarus
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posted April 14, 2013 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by Pail42:
I understand that a set of cards like this is good for limited, but I always hope for interesting uncommons and these are taking up 10 slots in a small set
Trying to cram all ten guilds into a small set is going to end up causing a lot of these scenarios where a cycle is necessary for limited, but eats up a ton of slots. __________________
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skizzikmonger
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posted April 14, 2013 08:37 PM
~Plasm Capture
UUGG
Instant
Counter target spell. At the beginning of your
next precombat main phase, add X mana in
any combination of colors to your mana pool,
where X is that spell’s converted mana cost.
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Zeckk
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posted April 14, 2013 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by hilikuS:
Super lame, and it doesn't even seem good.
Agreed. It's not on par with gaddock teeg or thalia.
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daner
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posted April 15, 2013 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by junichi:
I will be the party pooper and say Voice of Resurgence looks better on paper than in real play.The card has awesome abilities and is aggressively cost, but at the end of the day, it relies heavily on your opponent's action to trigger it. It's almost like a Grand Abolisher that your opponent could choose to ignore in critical moments. It's still great to get something out of it when it dies though.
I agree 100%. I'd also MUCH rather be playing a Thalia, Cannonist, or Gaddock Teeg turn 2 in Modern/Legacy. Those creatures make an instant impact on your opponent. This, as you said, is more or less a slightly better version than Abolisher....which sees NO play.
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Link139232
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posted April 15, 2013 05:07 PM
That Boros enchantment is BUSTED.
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junichi
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posted April 15, 2013 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by Link139232:
That Boros enchantment is BUSTED.
Sorry for being party pooper again, but I honestly fail to see how great it is. It seems like you need to have a lot of things right for it to be busted. You need to have creatures that are worthwhile to be blinked out in play, a board wipe spell in hand, plus a stalemate situation for it to be busted. Missing any one of those, and you will not be getting your money worth. It could act as an insurance against opponent's board wipe spells, but keeping 2 mana open all the time for that seems kind of meh', especially if you are running a creature deck. I guess it is still half of an honor of the pure when the blink is not relevant. :/ __________________
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Vegas10
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posted April 15, 2013 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by junichi:
Sorry for being party pooper again, but I honestly fail to see how great it is. It seems like you need to have a lot of things right for it to be busted. You need to have creatures that are worthwhile to be blinked out in play, a board wipe spell in hand, plus a stalemate situation for it to be busted. Missing any one of those, and you will not be getting your money worth. It could act as an insurance against opponent's board wipe spells, but keeping 2 mana open all the time for that seems kind of meh', especially if you are running a creature deck. I guess it is still half of an honor of the pure when the blink is not relevant. :/
I actually think it is at very least a good sideboard card, and could be a solid maindeck card, broken or busted though, that I don't see, but being able to save your army, or maybe blink guys with comes into play abilites is defintily useful. I think there is potential here.
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revenger
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posted April 15, 2013 10:22 PM
Blood Baron of Vizkopa is going to be a bomb in limited imo. And I personally like Deadbridge Chant.__________________
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stab107
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posted April 16, 2013 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by Link139232:
That Boros enchantment is BUSTED.
Unless I am misreading the card, it exiles itself and does not return. This makes it a one shot effect that can be powerful but I wouldn't consider it busted. quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
Blood Baron of Vizkopa is going to be a bomb in limited imo. And I personally like Deadbridge Chant.
The chant has me considering a graveyard based EDH deck for the first time since Shards block. I like it!
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Boston
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posted April 16, 2013 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by stab107:
Unless I am misreading the card, it exiles itself and does not return. This makes it a one shot effect that can be powerful but I wouldn't consider it busted.
I tend to agree here. I think I'd rather just have a Boros Charm than this card. It saves you from Supreme Verdict (and most removal for that matter) just the same.
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CubFan81
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posted April 16, 2013 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by Boston:
I tend to agree here. I think I'd rather just have a Boros Charm than this card. It saves you from Supreme Verdict (and most removal for that matter) just the same.[/b]
Not quite...Terminus is still around.
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Boston
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posted April 16, 2013 10:24 AM
Yes, Terminus is still around. Only one card. The versatility of Boros Charm trumps this new enchantment in my opinion. The buff is nice obv, but so is the option of double strike on the Charm.
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