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Revane
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Savageborn Hydra....

What are your thoughts
 
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quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
...And I personally like Deadbridge Chant.


All my head said was ,"sure I'll toss it into Enchantress and see what happens"

 
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Deadbridge Chant has EDH written all over it, and it's definitely combolicious. As long as the 10 cards you mill away has an Eldrazi, you can start sculpting your graveyard and do a lot of degenerating things. This card should be popular among the casual crowd, similar to Debtors' Knell.

Blood Baron of Vizkopa has a lot of raw power. Lifelink makes it decent for attrition war. Protection from White/Black blanks a lot spot removals. The +6/+6 & flying transformation is just a bonus. The downside of Blood Baron of Vizkopa is, B/W is a relatively weak color combination in standard.

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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
Deadbridge Chant has EDH written all over it, and it's definitely combolicious. As long as the 10 cards you mill away has an Eldrazi, you can start sculpting your graveyard and do a lot of degenerating things. This card should be popular among the casual crowd, similar to Debtors' Knell.

Blood Baron of Vizkopa has a lot of raw power. Lifelink makes it decent for attrition war. Protection from White/Black blanks a lot spot removals. The +6/+6 & flying transformation is just a bonus. The downside of Blood Baron of Vizkopa is, B/W is a relatively weak color combination in standard.


I love when someone else sums up cards and knows what they're talking about. It makes my life so much easier.

 
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I could see baron getting used in a b/r/w build as a one or 2 of. Just because of it's raw power it's askin to be played.
 
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Originally posted by flam flawless:
I could see baron getting used in a b/r/w build as a one or 2 of. Just because of it's raw power it's askin to be played.

It seems to just say no to those blitz decks too if you can get him down in time. That's a big if, but he's the total package if you can.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Revane:
Savageborn Hydra....

What are your thoughts

Fun card. I wouldn't be upset to open it in a pack, but I don't think it's going to be a major player in standard.

 
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Well, Notion Thief seems ok I guess.
 
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Goblin shock at random seems awesome. I dont know what people are complaining about. If you're izzet you will probably have fewer creatures than they do. Put Orzhova's gift on it and it's super amazingly crispy and BRU will be a pairing that you can get guild cards from every pack.
 
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So that Flash guy would have been good if he was a 2/1 and cost UB.

He's just bad because he costs too much to actually be a hate bear in legacy that hoses Brainstorm/Jace

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
So that Flash guy would have been good if he was a 2/1 and cost UB.

He's just bad because he costs too much to actually be a hate bear in legacy that hoses Brainstorm/Jace


I must assume you mean this guy.

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Notion Thief
Creature - Human Rogue
Flash
If an opponent would draw a card except the first one he or she draws in each of his or her draw steps, instead that player skips that draw and you draw a card.
3/1

I think they printed him because they were worried about Sphinx's Revelation being too powerful. I think it's hilarious that they put a counter to Blood Scrivener in the same set and spoiled the two so close together.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Pail42 on April 16, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
I must assume you mean this guy.


quote:
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Notion Thief
Creature - Human Rogue
Flash
If an opponent would draw a card except the first one he or she draws in each of his or her draw steps, instead that player skips that draw and you draw a card.
3/1

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I think they printed him because they were worried about Sphinx's Revelation being too powerful. I think it's hilarious that they put a counter to Blood Scrivener in the same set and spoiled the two so close together.



Card is clearly aimed at hosing Sphinx's Revelation, but it's a sideboard card at best. In the same colors I'd rather board in duress than this. And in other colors, Skullcrack is a better option. Dimir gets another junk rare, imo.
 
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Viashino Firstblade seems like it should be a very solid card in limited that might cross over into standard for a second
 
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Catch // Release looks okay for the "catch" half; it does give the option to hose planeswalkers.
 
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So all the mythics are spoiled? bummer
 
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Why is wotc hosing w/b? I mean sheesh. Gatecrash was terrible and nothing spoiled for dragons maze. Sigh.

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Man....unless something comes along and REALLY blows my mind, this set looks pretty bad so far. I'm usually very optimistic, but if all the mythics have been spoiled and this is what we are getting I can't imagine the rest of the rares to be any better. I know....we were fooled at first in RTR before people truly understood the power of DRS, and Reckoner was amazing in GTC. This set, however, looks like luke warm dog poop so far as far as constructed goes, and SCG is completly off their rocker on some of these prices.

Now...I myself am more of a limited guy, this set looks pretty good for limited so far, and usually when you get all 3 sets of something it's the best format of the block. So if anything I'm excited to draft/sealed this....but as far as constructed? Lame city.

 
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So far, I think these cards are worth picking up a playset at their current price:

Progenitor Mimic @ $4-5/ea.
Deadbridge Chant @ 4/ea.
Blood Baron of Vizkopa @ $10/ea.

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Notion Thief
Creature - Human Rogue
Flash
If an opponent would draw a card except the first one he or she draws in each of his or her draw steps, instead that player skips that draw and you draw a card.
3/1


This in response to Brainstorm. Owwww yeahhhh...

 
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quote:
Originally posted by mulder:

Notion Thief
Creature - Human Rogue
Flash
If an opponent would draw a card except the first one he or she draws in each of his or her draw steps, instead that player skips that draw and you draw a card.
3/1


This in response to Brainstorm. Owwww yeahhhh...


I'm thinkin plagiarize didn't see play...this guy is meh.


Edit - smart phone folly

[Edited 1 times, lastly by flam flawless on April 17, 2013]

 
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I want to do some fun things with it, like reforge the soul.
 
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Originally posted by theqissilent:
I want to do some fun things with it, like reforge the soul.

Oh you are evil.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by stinkinogre on April 17, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by flam flawless:
I'm thinkin plagiarize didn't see play...this guy is meh.


Edit - smart phone folly


Seems awesome in response to their Sphinx's Revelation.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by hilikuS on April 17, 2013]

 
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Originally posted by hilikuS:
Seems awesome in response to their Sphinx's Revelation.

It is, but not all decks play sphinx's revelation. Many decks don't even draw extra cards, hence it's "meh" and not "crap". I wish this card had, "when this enters the battlefield you may gain control of target spell or ability"- something with a lot more utility.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
Man....unless something comes along and REALLY blows my mind, this set looks pretty bad so far. I'm usually very optimistic, but if all the mythics have been spoiled and this is what we are getting I can't imagine the rest of the rares to be any better. I know....we were fooled at first in RTR before people truly understood the power of DRS, and Reckoner was amazing in GTC. This set, however, looks like luke warm dog poop so far as far as constructed goes, and SCG is completly off their rocker on some of these prices.

Now...I myself am more of a limited guy, this set looks pretty good for limited so far, and usually when you get all 3 sets of something it's the best format of the block. So if anything I'm excited to draft/sealed this....but as far as constructed? Lame city.



I guess that is one of the pitfalls of being a small set. Reminds me of dka

 

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