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Topic: The Post For Modern Masters Discussion.
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JayC
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posted May 20, 2013 05:07 PM
      
Dark Confidant @ Mythic leaves no chance for the card to have any long term reduction in it's value/price. Additionally, any other big cards that are printed at Mythic Rarity will have the same outcome, i.e. Mutavault, Clique, Thoughtseize, etc. With such a limited print run and packs already looking like they'll be selling at $10+ a pack, the cost to attain these cards vs. the limited supply of them means not much will change. If anything, original art could eventually become more rare? Or the shorter supply of the new art? Who knows. All in all, this release looks almost like a scam with it's preface being to make more modern cards readily available for players when in actuality the cost to draft, or purchase these packs is super inflated, and prohibitive and the limited supply having no effect on the market, long term. At best, we can hope that it would help Finks and Serum Vision prices out.................
[Edited 2 times, lastly by JayC on May 20, 2013]
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dwiz
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posted May 20, 2013 06:17 PM
 
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
City of Brass was already spoiled, you guys. would get link, but on wii and also lazy.edit, i mean to say yes that is city of brass
Haha, I couldn't tell if they were trolling or not. City of Brass was the first card spoiled....in February. http://www.wizards.com/Magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/modernmasters/cig
[Edited 1 times, lastly by dwiz on May 20, 2013]
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gaeacradle
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posted May 20, 2013 09:17 PM
I'm a little bit frustrated with how little information on Modern Masters is released by Wizards. The only way I see it now is that the set will be amazing value-wise, otherwise, with each passing day, people are just going to go crazy trying to get their hands on boxes. And if the set sucks, those people who pays a ton for them will complain and some will rage-quit.
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Zarfolos132
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posted May 20, 2013 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
I'm a little bit frustrated with how little information on Modern Masters is released by Wizards. The only way I see it now is that the set will be amazing value-wise, otherwise, with each passing day, people are just going to go crazy trying to get their hands on boxes. And if the set sucks, those people who pays a ton for them will complain and some will rage-quit.
This, crossing my fingers it's packed with value, but day by day grow more worried I fell into the crazed group trying to get their hands on some.
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paragondave
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posted May 20, 2013 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by AGO:
Also the confidant art is horrible. Skrillex infused dung.
right, that's what I meant, that new Dark Confidant art sucks out loud. Sorry, I didn't mean to have my own opinion. 
[Edited 1 times, lastly by paragondave on May 20, 2013]
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Vegas10
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posted May 20, 2013 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by paragondave:
right, that's what I meant, that new Dark Confidant art sucks out loud. Sorry, I didn't mean to have my own opinion.
Take it easy PD you are allowed your own opinion just remember it is always wrong 
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JoshSherman
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posted May 20, 2013 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by paragondave:
cool bud, thanks**edit**
that's some pretty sweet new art too!
We may be in the minority, but I agree. I don't really care for the original artwork. __________________
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paragondave
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posted May 20, 2013 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Vegas10:
Take it easy PD you are allowed your own opinion just remember it is always wrong
LMAO! Thanks for setting me straight!
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Sovarius
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posted May 21, 2013 12:02 PM
The original Confidant art was ugly, this one is... Not really any better.__________________
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walkerdog
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posted May 21, 2013 12:38 PM
I strongly prefer the first Bob art, but if this had been the first art, I wouldn't mind it. It's fine (haircut/clothes aside) as a concept - dude is making your throne before your eyes, as your dark confidant/advisor. I'm not sure I'd trust someone who looked that goofy, but whatever.
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James_Hetfield2
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posted May 21, 2013 12:44 PM
Vote for the first art here.
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Pail42
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posted May 22, 2013 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by dwiz:
Haha, I couldn't tell if they were trolling or not. City of Brass was the first card spoiled....in February.
Spoiled by whom and to what degree? As far as I can find out the picture (the same they are using for the ultrapro storage box) was indeed revealed way back in February but ONLY the picture. Comparing this art to the 7/8th art it seems obvious that it must be City of Brass, but that's not the same thing as spoiling the card. I was not trolling. I'll just put this up again in case it was missed on the first page.
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People on this forum like to talk about magic news like it is common knowledge without providing any sort of reference. It's annoying and I support Daner's complaining. We don't all follow every wotc employee and mtg columnist on their individual sites + social networks.
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Sovarius
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posted May 22, 2013 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by Pail42:
Spoiled by whom and to what degree?
Wizards and completely, dunno when. i thought they told us when mm was first announced http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/modernmasters/cig thats what they officially spoiled __________________
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Pail42
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posted May 23, 2013 09:50 AM
The original announcement only included Tarm. http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1086Later announcements had the same untitled picture. http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/218
http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/productarticle.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/modernmasters/productinfo
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stab107
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posted May 23, 2013 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Pail42:
The original announcement only included Tarm. http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1086Later announcements had the same untitled picture. http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/218
http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/productarticle.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/modernmasters/productin fo
Click on the link Sovarius posted. City of Brass is in the official Card Image Gallery.
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Pail42
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posted May 23, 2013 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by stab107:
Click on the link Sovarius posted. City of Brass is in the official Card Image Gallery.
I'm trying to determine the point at which it was officially (or unofficially) spoiled. So far the only thing we have determined is that it was NOT at the time the product was announced. Edit: According to google the card image gallery was put up 3 days ago. That appears to be the spoil.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Pail42 on May 23, 2013]
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dwiz
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posted May 23, 2013 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by Pail42:
I'm trying to determine the point at which it was officially (or unofficially) spoiled. So far the only thing we have determined is that it was NOT at the time the product was announced.Edit: According to google the card image gallery was put up 3 days ago. That appears to be the spoil.
Officially it was a couple days ago. Unofficially everyone knew what it was when the picture was released in Feb.
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Zeckk
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posted May 23, 2013 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by JayC:
All in all, this release looks almost like a scam with it's preface being to make more modern cards readily available for players when in actuality the cost to draft, or purchase these packs is super inflated, and prohibitive and the limited supply having no effect on the market, long term.At best, we can hope that it would help Finks and Serum Vision prices out.................
I don't know how you can assert that a special set designed entirely to add more copies of modern staples to the market to be a scam. If you are arguing that the price speculation might surpass the actual value of the MM set... welcome to almost every magic set release, ever. I never really enjoyed the inevitable "pre-disappointed" aspect of set spoilers, precisely because people apply preconceptions that don't actually apply. Seems best to simply hold judgement until more info, though it's always a laugh to see the extreme ends of the speculation spectrum.
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revenger
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posted May 23, 2013 03:11 PM
Tooth and Nail was spoiled?.__________________
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Thanos
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posted May 23, 2013 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by revenger:
Tooth and Nail was spoiled?.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=142538&d=1369306714
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Sovarius
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posted May 23, 2013 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by Zeckk:
I don't know how you can assert that a special set designed entirely to add more copies of modern staples to the market to be a scam.
ENTIRELY designed to add copies of modern staples?
A scam, may be a rough term, but you don't think that they are trying to make a killing selling these semi-rarities? __________________
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oneofchaos
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posted May 23, 2013 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by revenger:
Tooth and Nail was spoiled?.
Sorry wotc, I used to Tooth and Nail in modern but you banned post  .
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CrazyBones
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posted May 23, 2013 08:53 PM
Not sure how reliable this site is but wowsers. Arcbound Ravager, Elspeth, Sword of Fire and Ice, Aether Vials...Sexy! http://mythicspoiler.com/mdm/index.html
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Zeckk
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posted May 24, 2013 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
ENTIRELY designed to add copies of modern staples?
A scam, may be a rough term, but you don't think that they are trying to make a killing selling these semi-rarities?
A company making money off of a popular product while also supporting a format that needs better staple availability is now a scam? God forbid they profit while answering the needs of the playerbase. WOTC doesn't need to hand out gifts to the masses.
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fluffycow
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posted May 24, 2013 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by CrazyBones:
Not sure how reliable this site is but wowsers. Arcbound Ravager, Elspeth, Sword of Fire and Ice, Aether Vials...Sexy! http://mythicspoiler.com/mdm/index.html
OMG, I stay away from the forum for less than 24 hrs and I am already a light-year behind on the dumping spree
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