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Sovarius
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$50 is unreasonable. Unless the prize support is amazing and as a big event, not a weekly thing.

I just got my box last night for $167, the store owner is just selling the first ten and has no current plans to draft them out. In my area modern is not a thing, and no one has $25 for a draft.

One of the regulars who works there is getting two, he is going to hold a draft for $25 entry, and the first place prize will be the second box (he will be keeping all of the first).

Does that sound terrible to anyone else?

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thror
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yes and no. it eliminates raredrafting, knowing that you have to give everything back. but paying $25 for a draft and getting NOTHING is the suck.

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Sovarius
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There will be prizes for the other places, but i already know they will be condolence prizes, not really amounting to anything.

I think i'd like to draft my box with the group but have realistic prizes. If i choose to keep the cards i could have a very low entry fee. Could also rare draft.

This might be more a discussion for the PFMS, but what about each participant gets to pick one card to keep, first place first pick, down to last. One card each, say $10?

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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
yes and no. it eliminates raredrafting, knowing that you have to give everything back. but paying $25 for a draft and getting NOTHING is the suck.

Paying $25 for a box that is selling for $250 isn't so bad though.

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Paying $25 for a box that is selling for $250 isn't so bad though.

Lol, it is when you don't get to keep any of the cards, which is what the guy said.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Paying $25 for a box that is selling for $250 isn't so bad though.

sure, it's great for the one guy that wins the draft. sucks to be the other 7 though.

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Sovarius
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I heard this will only be printed in English, but didn't hear anything online. Will it be draftable online?
 
thror
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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:
I heard this will only be printed in English, but didn't hear anything online. Will it be draftable online?

it will be online for a VERY short time.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/digital/magiconline.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/calend ar

releases 6-14, goes off sale 6-26, events end 7-10.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/other/05282013d

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by thror on June 02, 2013]

 
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how can there be 54 rares in mm(chalice of the void) spoiled today if auriok salvages was the 53'rd rare?
 
Sovarius
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Well hopefully auriok salvagers is actually a common.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
it will be online for a VERY short time.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/digital/magiconline.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/calend ar

releases 6-14, goes off sale 6-26, events end 7-10.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/other/05282013d

Do online pack price fluctuate much? Obviously, there's really no limit to how much someone can buy, but I would think a limited release product like this might see some price appreciation over time.

Or do packs pretty much become worth nothing once events are no longer firing?

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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
Do online pack price fluctuate much? Obviously, there's really no limit to how much someone can buy, but I would think a limited release product like this might see some price appreciation over time.

Or do packs pretty much become worth nothing once events are no longer firing?

really hit or miss. some of the really old packs are super expensive. But there's little demand, because no events use em. And if wotc does decide to bring back an old draft format, they make sure events give those packs out as prizes starting about a week in advance.

If i knew for certain that MM draft would come back down the road, there very likely would be a price spike to above MSRP. but as the set is 100% reprints, and doesnt add anything to MTGO, i dont expect pack demand to be high enough to push them over MSRP.

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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
Do online pack price fluctuate much? Obviously, there's really no limit to how much someone can buy, but I would think a limited release product like this might see some price appreciation over time.

Or do packs pretty much become worth nothing once events are no longer firing?

It is worth a shot, but it's better to go for the "sure thing" and just buy up a normal set during its release, when you will (generally) be near the bottoming-out point on the buy price, and sell a month or two later when the prices flatten out a tad.

 
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Anyone open boxes of this yet? Did it feel worth it?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by paris:
Anyone open boxes of this yet? Did it feel worth it?

I am wondering this too. I feel like it probably isn't.

 
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It's a massive thrill opening these.
 
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I opened 2 packs. Got Ravager & reveillark & a foil narcomoeba. Not too bad considering the chaff I saw opened. Worst part is my lgs' are selling them at $10-15/pack & actually selling out.
 
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Should I buy boxes of these at $170?

If so, how long will I have to wait to make a profit?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Link139232:
Should I buy boxes of these at $170?

If so, how long will I have to wait to make a profit?

Really? Answers are yes and not very long. See http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/101845.html

 
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I opened two boxes at MSRP and I'm satisfied with my pulls. One box really helped the other out though.

Box 1
V.Clique
Sword of FaI
Doubling Season
Elspeth, Knight Errant
Kokusho, Evening Star
Foil Maelstrom Pulse
Pact of Negation

Box 2
Foil Academy Ruins
Kiki-Jiki
Arcbound Ravager
Engineered Explosives
Vedalken Shackles

I know it's nowhere close to what I can get, but the total SCG value on anything 1.00+ was $760. I'll be happy if I can get $400-500 and keep a couple of the cards for EDH.

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quote:
Originally posted by Link139232:
Should I buy boxes of these at $170?

If so, how long will I have to wait to make a profit?

I'll gladly do your homework for ya if you pay me .

 
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Anyone know any online sites that sell them for 10$~?

My local card shop sells them 12$-15$ a pack...I really feel as if its a ripoff.

Worst come to worst , just gonna wait and buy them next week on MGTO.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by eXtremeEagle:
I opened two boxes at MSRP and I'm satisfied with my pulls. One box really helped the other out though.

Box 1
V.Clique
Sword of FaI
Doubling Season
Elspeth, Knight Errant
Kokusho, Evening Star
Foil Maelstrom Pulse
Pact of Negation

Box 2
Foil Academy Ruins
Kiki-Jiki
Arcbound Ravager
Engineered Explosives
Vedalken Shackles

I know it's nowhere close to what I can get, but the total SCG value on anything 1.00+ was $760. I'll be happy if I can get $400-500 and keep a couple of the cards for EDH.

Good luck selling! I'm interested in how easily movable these singles are and I'll keep an eye on your H/W list. I'm interested to see how fast/much your cards sell for. I kind of wish you bought the box at 225, so it would be more accurate of the mindset of most of the people who cracked their boxes who were trying to sell their singles.

 
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I didn't buy a box but i did buy 5 packs and with what i got, i traded a few cards for a Dark Confidant someone pulled. I pulled a Blood Moon, Foil Tooth and Nail, Doubling Season, Cryptic Command and a Glimmervoid
 
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Did a midnight madness draft last night. It was pretty amazing to see 7 pods of people drafting MM at the same time, partially because these packs are so fun to crack, and partially because you got to see the reactions of the people pulling a particularly high-value card. We saw 2 goyfs, 1 confidant, plenty of swords and shackles (shackles in particular seemed to be all over the place), and a bunch of the in-demand uncommons.

I made out like a bandit in the draft.

1st pack pick - Meloku
2nd pack pick - Vedalken Shackles
3rd pack pick - foil Manamorphose (looks fantastic)

Was also passed a greater gargadon, slaughter pact, academy ruins, and foil search for tomorrow. Got 2nd place in my pod, which boiled down to another modern masters pack for prize support, which had a Divinity of Pride and a foil kitchen finks. Definitely makes those $30 draft prices feel a little bit easier to handle.

As for the drafting of the set - it really does feel awesome. So many of the sub-themes have cool little interactions, like perilous research and epochrasite, or manamorphose and sunburst. Such a fun format.

 

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