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Originally posted by iccarus:
So they wasted five mythic slots on the CHK dragons? Really?

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Originally posted by KGtheLegend:
Seems they're reprinting a lot of popular EDH cards too, like Jhoira of the Ghitu, Verdeloth, Jurgan, Ryusei, etc. Guess they feel they can't print any sets now that don't have at least some appeal to the casual crowd, but so far I like the spoiler.

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Keep in mind they're also building a draft format with this set. If it were just a list of the most powerful/expensive cards it'd probably draft like ****. So it's coming out like an official cube. This way they're seeding archetypes, and if those cards that are necessary to shore up deck types happen to also be crazy expensive or hard to obtain for other formats (doubling season for literally everything that's not a tournament), then all the better?
What I mean to say is I really doubt any modern staples have been punted in favor of, for example, an edh rare, or at least not without justification beyond "this set needs edh love".

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Now I'm glad I didn't waste $300 on a box

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$300? Yeah. But 200-225? It's still looking like a fantastic deal. Both MIR swords, shackles, kiki, confidant, goyf, etc. with finks at uncommon? This is already looking like a good deal.

As much as people are griping about the dragons, I'm actually rather glad they are at mythic and not rare, both for the purposes of limited play (I'm doing GP Vegas), and in terms of freeing up 5 rare slots for more popular modern staples. It's already been noted that goyf and confidant at mythic rarity isn't going to do much more than stall the price creep on the secondary market, while the "rare" rarity and below will likely have a tangible impact on the pricing of things like the MIR swords, arcbound ravager, etc.

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Originally posted by Bugger:
Keep in mind they're also building a draft format with this set. If it were just a list of the most powerful/expensive cards it'd probably draft like ****. So it's coming out like an official cube.

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Originally posted by Thanos:
Still no Thoughtseize or Mutavault spoiled...think they're on their way?

My money is on yes.

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Originally posted by rats60:
By my count there are only 5 rares and 1 mythic left to be spoiled.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
As much as people are griping about the dragons, I'm actually rather glad they are at mythic and not rare

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I'm only griping for the fact they are there, period. I see your point and it's a relief they are mythic and not rare. So you will probably more often than not 'win' by opening a random pack, but then like a third of the time you get lucky and open that rare pack with a mythic it might be a stinker/ Oh well i guess, but that's a hell of a letdown.

One thing i haven't i haven't heard a lot about though is the foil slot over the basic land. As a draft set there have to be stinker c/u's but guaranteeing a foil each pack you are definitely going to snag a few extra bucks here or there, or hit one of ~$3-10 c/u's and that should make a pretty beneficial impact on the availability of those.

I am grateful i'm getting a box for $170, but kind of miffed how drafting this is not likely going to happen in my area. Not many modern players, really.

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
I'm only griping for the fact they are there, period. I see your point and it's a relief they are mythic and not rare. So you will probably more often than not 'win' by opening a random pack, but then like a third of the time you get lucky and open that rare pack with a mythic it might be a stinker/ Oh well i guess, but that's a hell of a letdown.

One thing i haven't i haven't heard a lot about though is the foil slot over the basic land. As a draft set there have to be stinker c/u's but guaranteeing a foil each pack you are definitely going to snag a few extra bucks here or there, or hit one of ~$3-10 c/u's and that should make a pretty beneficial impact on the availability of those.

I am grateful i'm getting a box for $170, but kind of miffed how drafting this is not likely going to happen in my area. Not many modern players, really.

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Originally posted by Vegas10:
Arn't 3 of the Dragons decent EDH playables, so it's not a total brick if one of those 3 are your Mythics, Jugan though is well bad. Overall though odds are you are getting some good stuff in every pack you open, good uncommons, alot of good rares, and most of the mythics are good as well.

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Playables, not staples. They are already relatively cheap and available anyway.
It's not a total brick, but it's disappointing that in a 'value' set for availability you can open a rarer (that is, mythic) card and it's less valuable/usable than most (all?) of the other rares spoiled.
But don't forget that this is Modern Masters. If they want to put in some EDH staples, that's cool, but i'd really rather they be remotely playable in modern, and not take up 5 mythic slots for a bad cycle.

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Originally posted by JensK:
Thoughtseize is not in because it will be on M14 or Theros

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A guess or do you have info?

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Originally posted by Thanos:
I see Tombstalker in the list now, don't remember seeing it before.

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They might not be desirable in modern, but I wouldn't mind getting some foil Kamigawa dragons, foil Squee, and a few other foil EDH goodies from disgruntled pack openers.

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Getting better all the time. Still rather no Kamigawa Dragons >.>

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Canonist, Clique, Reveillark, Kira, Gifts, Blood Moon, Spell Snare, Bridge From Below, Spell Snare, Pulse, Progenitus, Bloom, Glimmervoid, Blinkmoth Nexus, Academy Ruins, Divinity, Demigod, Doubling Season

Getting better all the time. Still rather no Kamigawa Dragons >.>

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Glimmervoid means no mutavault though. That's a shame, it's all I needed for legacy merfolk, but that's a backburner project to begin with.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
Glimmervoid means no mutavault though.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
Only glaring holes are essentially mutavault and thoughtseize, with the possibility seize still shows up in MM.

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Originally posted by Pail42:
I think the lack of any dual land is a gigantic hole in what we've seen so far. Duals are some of the least available and most necessary cards for modern.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
Glimmervoid means no mutavault though.

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I have a set for ya
But why do you say we can't have both?

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Originally posted by stu55:
Yeah, since RTR lands aren't printed recently at all

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Well, fetches are out of the question but enemy-color hybrid lands would be cool

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Well, fetches are out of the question...

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Originally posted by Pail42:
Source/reason?

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Originally posted by Pail42:
Source/reason?

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
MM is 8th through Shards block. Wizards said this when they announced MM.

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