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Originally posted by jbark:
Ah sooooooooooo wonderful. Mono colored decks. Blue, green, and red are pretty good.

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I heard that 4 different Mono colored devotion decks made the top 8 at the PT.

We'll see the decklists in the morning.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
I heard that 4 different Mono colored devotion decks made the top 8 at the PT.

We'll see the decklists in the morning.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Top 8 decks

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I suppose I could put this in the rules thread but ... Since pack rat tokens are copies of a card they add to devotion right?

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Originally posted by Pail42:
I suppose I could put this in the rules thread but ... Since pack rat tokens are copies of a card they add to devotion right?

I'm a little surprised to see so many blue devotion decks since anger so handily destroys every creature in the deck, but I guess that's the value of counter-spells.

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Except Master of Waves, Frostburn Weird, an evolved to 4 Cloudfin Raptor, and Thassa. Not to mention that no deck is really playing Anger right now. Kamiel's deck had 3 in the board, but the deck is such a dog that even a full 4 in the main isn't going to make the matchup good. The best way to attack the deck is still a Supreme Verdict deck, but it would have to beat Red, which most current versions do not. I think the Waves deck will actually be pretty good at the GP next week. People are still going to be sleeving up their Burning Tree Emissaries and getting crushed, and Sphinx's Rev decks will likely be underrepresented at the GP level as always (difficult to play + higher price).

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Originally posted by Pail42:
I suppose I could put this in the rules thread but ... Since pack rat tokens are copies of a card they add to devotion right?

I'm a little surprised to see so many blue devotion decks since anger so handily destroys every creature in the deck, but I guess that's the value of counter-spells.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
I think Ratchet Bomb+Spot removal will do better vs Mono Blue Devotion than Anger of the Gods.

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Is there a reason Azami is actually needed? Or could you play hapless researcher?

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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Stupid question with that oops all spells legacy deck.

Is there a reason Azami is actually needed? Or could you play hapless researcher?

Edit: I'm guessing it's probably just to play around removal so azami is probably better than hapless.

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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Stupid question with that oops all spells legacy deck.

Is there a reason Azami is actually needed? Or could you play hapless researcher?

Edit: I'm guessing it's probably just to play around removal so azami is probably better than hapless.

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Originally posted by Zakman86:
I kill your Lab Manaiac in response to Hapless Researcher, you die. I try to kill your Lab Maniac in response to an Azami activation, you tap my other wizard, I lose.

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Originally posted by Animosity:
Angel of glory's rise brings back humans so it wont bring back researcher.

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Originally posted by Zakman86:
I kill your Lab Manaiac in response to Hapless Researcher, you die. I try to kill your Lab Maniac in response to an Azami activation, you tap my other wizard, I lose.

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Just wanted to share this.

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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Hey what is the easiest way to post PDFs of scans of cards for people to view of cards?

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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1oc56z/psa_wildthingscom_cancele d_my_prept_order_for_5/

Just wanted to share this.

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Originally posted by Vegas10:
SHady business practice things like that lead you to go out of business, now they lost any future revenue from that person and maybe some others, just to profit a bit extra on a few singles, very shortsighted.

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I would argue that you are overestimating A) the number of people that would remember this incident, and B) the number of people that will actually follow through with the "boycott" of this particular establishment. It's cynical, but I've personally witnessed brick and mortar stores get away with this (in Vegas, with literally a dozen other venues available for business) on a repeated basis. Little Shop of Magic is the worst venue you could possibly patronize, yet they not only maintain a viable busness model, their exploitation of GPT and WPN tourney hosting gives them the ability to "host" PTQs in the vegas area, forcing all players in the Vegas area to endure their ****ty service and support.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
I would argue that you are overestimating A) the number of people that would remember this incident, and B) the number of people that will actually follow through with the "boycott" of this particular establishment. It's cynical, but I've personally witnessed brick and mortar stores get away with this (in Vegas, with literally a dozen other venues available for business) on a repeated basis. Little Shop of Magic is the worst venue you could possibly patronize, yet they not only maintain a viable busness model, their exploitation of GPT and WPN tourney hosting gives them the ability to "host" PTQs in the vegas area, forcing all players in the Vegas area to endure their ****ty service and support.

TL;DR - It's hardly a bad business decision in this situation, even though I sympathize with the guy it happened to.

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Originally posted by Vegas10:
Doing it to one person you are correct, but if they do this repeatedly to multiple customers it will eventually catch up with them running them out of business, I have seen brick and mortar stores suffer from these types of things as well. Even if they don't go under they will cost themselves long term revenue from each individual they do this to because those people will certainly look for pther means of getting there cards.

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Doesn't make sense to do it anyways. I have said to my local game store owner that I'm buying him out because his price is too low. He just says he's still making money on it and will update his price.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
I would argue that you are overestimating A) the number of people that would remember this incident, and B) the number of people that will actually follow through with the "boycott" of this particular establishment. It's cynical, but I've personally witnessed brick and mortar stores get away with this (in Vegas, with literally a dozen other venues available for business) on a repeated basis. Little Shop of Magic is the worst venue you could possibly patronize, yet they not only maintain a viable busness model, their exploitation of GPT and WPN tourney hosting gives them the ability to "host" PTQs in the vegas area, forcing all players in the Vegas area to endure their ****ty service and support.

TL;DR - It's hardly a bad business decision in this situation, even though I sympathize with the guy it happened to.

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I've seen this crap at a number of online and brick-and-mortar stores that they can all go screw themselves in my opinion. When trading and P2P selling dies, I might be forced back into that realm, but I'll be damned if I buy from any of them.