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Originally posted by chaos021:
I've seen this crap at a number of online and brick-and-mortar stores that they can all go screw themselves in my opinion. When trading and P2P selling dies, I might be forced back into that realm, but I'll be damned if I buy from any of them.

For all the crap Theros was getting for being Kamigawa block 2.0, it sure doesn't feel like that yet. It feels just as fast as RTR if not slightly faster for control.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Doesn't make sense to do it anyways. I have said to my local game store owner that I'm buying him out because his price is too low. He just says he's still making money on it and will update his price.

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My old LGS was this way too. Also, my current LGS uses SCG pricing, but if you show them 5 completed ebays around a certain price, they'll honor is. Plus, if you do store credit/trade, they'll value your stuff at SCG as well.

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Originally posted by ryan2754:
My old LGS was this way too. Also, my current LGS uses SCG pricing, but if you show them 5 completed ebays around a certain price, they'll honor is. Plus, if you do store credit/trade, they'll value your stuff at SCG as well.

The player base and continued business is more important to them.

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I think both strategies could work long term, but the argument also goes both ways. Everyone expects a LGS to hold up a certain moral code, but if they've got Nightveil Specters in the dollar bin, most people are going to take them. For every time a game shop rips a person off, or gouges a bit, there's definitely times where they get rolled.

I have found that some owners are kind, and they take the good with the bad, and are ultimately trying to make the community for Magic awesome, but at the end of the day, you're in it to make money. Somebody's always going to try and catch you napping. When they do, it's perfectly ethical for them to grab the cards for dirt cheap. When the LGS does anything remotely shady, it's bad news for them.

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Originally posted by jbark:
Along the lines of getting ripped on presales. I got a red god foil at a very good price on eBay. Paid and realized the guy posted it again at normal price. He didn't refund my money tho. After 1 month and no shipment I made a claim. Right after that he provides tracking. I get package and bam 2 commons and no foil god. Now I have to make a new claim and try to get my $15 back on a shady dude with 30k+ feedback. He did just get 34 negatives this month tho. And over 1000 positives.

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Originally posted by jbark:
this is his user name:

burnout18!

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I think I'd avoid a seller with this name Even with my MOTL name being somewhat of the same lines.

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Originally posted by James_Hetfield2:
3 straight THS limited opponents with Polukranos, World Eater, what are the odds of that lol

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Originally posted by Vegas10:
Doing it to one person you are correct, but if they do this repeatedly to multiple customers it will eventually catch up with them running them out of business, I have seen brick and mortar stores suffer from these types of things as well. Even if they don't go under they will cost themselves long term revenue from each individual they do this to because those people will certainly look for pther means of getting there cards.

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Not im my experiance, Ive seen a show screw the whole player base over 10 years and people still go there for lack of any other options....damn store even goes so low as to steal from its player, yet they say/do nothing.

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Not im my experiance, Ive seen a show screw the whole player base over 10 years and people still go there for lack of any other options....damn store even goes so low as to steal from its player, yet they say/do nothing.

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My high school LGS was just sold, so sad. Owner was awesome and probably the reason I'm still into board/card games. He was in it to make people happy and made enough to live how he stated he wanted to live. When times were good for him prices dropped and when times were tougher he would ask for some assistance in staying afloat (I was one of the only guys playing with older cards so he'd sell me duals that he knew nobody else would buy at a fair enough price). I used to donate tubs of commons/uncommons ever year or so for people to pick through that he would give away to the newer guys, he even gave me a FTV realms as a thank you last year.

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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
My high school LGS was just sold, so sad. Owner was awesome and probably the reason I'm still into board/card games. He was in it to make people happy and made enough to live how he stated he wanted to live. When times were good for him prices dropped and when times were tougher he would ask for some assistance in staying afloat (I was one of the only guys playing with older cards so he'd sell me duals that he knew nobody else would buy at a fair enough price). I used to donate tubs of commons/uncommons ever year or so for people to pick through that he would give away to the newer guys, he even gave me a FTV realms as a thank you last year.

It's really getting kind of sad, a lot of shops are closing and it's becoming that SCG type stores dominate so hard that people are willing to drive hours to an event and overpay on cards. Hopefully some of you folks are having better luck with LGS than me.

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Originally posted by jbark:
Along the lines of getting ripped on presales. I got a red god foil at a very good price on eBay. Paid and realized the guy posted it again at normal price. He didn't refund my money tho. After 1 month and no shipment I made a claim. Right after that he provides tracking. I get package and bam 2 commons and no foil god. Now I have to make a new claim and try to get my $15 back on a shady dude with 30k+ feedback. He did just get 34 negatives this month tho. And over 1000 positives.

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was unwilling to honor one playset of fleecemane lions at 20$. He was preselling at 10 at the time.

Hope their negative was worth it.

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Originally posted by choco man:
http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/005441.html

On this BTA, one can always say that he didn't "explicitly" agree to waiver. Just that he said okay to using PWE and paying the $0.50?

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My inclination (not that my opinion matters!) would be to say that the agreement was explicit: Peaceofden posted his preferred option, and specified that liability was waived. A day later (but in the very next post), arwhite states that they are in full agreement on the option.

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P3K reprints like Hua Tuo, Strategic Planning, and Luo Xun. Mythic reprints like Avenger of Zendikar and Thraximundar. Rare reprints like Baleful Strix, Goblin Sharpshooter and Wrath of God. And Command Tower/Sol Ring are also back.

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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
Apparently, I just received a notification from Salvation that my Trade Eligibility is under review with no other explanations...... I don't care either way as I rarely trade/sell on there but it's kinda annoying when I don't know what I did.

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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
In other news, the new Commander decks have some pretty good value in them:

http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/commander2013/cig

P3K reprints like Hua Tuo, Strategic Planning, and Luo Xun. Mythic reprints like Avenger of Zendikar and Thraximundar. Rare reprints like Baleful Strix, Goblin Sharpshooter and Wrath of God. And Command Tower/Sol Ring are also back.

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Wow. There are some awesome cards in there.

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Originally posted by psrex:
At the Theros pre-release both my son and I got Polukranos in our pools. He just likes some of us.

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Wish he liked me, I can't complain anymore though, just opened first pack Elspeth, second pack Stormbreath Dragon and third pack Purphoros.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45329373@N03/10344409185/

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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Where do people on tcgplayer get the high/low like the motl price guide?

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what u mean, it is on the page when the card you are looking at pops up...

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http://store.tcgplayer.com/magic/theros/thassa-god-of-the-sea