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dfitzg88
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
When somebody is rushing out to buy a 270 revised volcanic island, my mind is blown.

"Random card on reprint list will go up in value alot at some point"

Yeah, I called that happening.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
"Random card on reprint list will go up in value alot at some point"

Yeah, I called that happening.


That's like predicting taxes will rise.

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...or stamps. Well done.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
When somebody is rushing out to buy a 270 revised volcanic island, my mind is blown.

Raise your hand if you remember buying Wastelands at 1/1000th their current price.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
"Random card on reprint list will go up in value alot at some point"

Yeah, I called that happening.


That's like saying that tomorrow will come after today.

Seriously tho, Weren't people just whining about 300 Useas on SCG not even a month ago?

 
wayne
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Originally posted by coasterdude84:
Raise your hand if you remember buying Wastelands at 1/1000th their current price.


I was around during the release of Tempest and don't remember wastelands ever being lower than $2

 
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quote:
Originally posted by coasterdude84:
Raise your hand if you remember buying Wastelands at 1/1000th their current price.

Lets see, check the old ref emails:

Beta Dual Lands $380
(taiga NMish just a small bit of edge chipping
savannah, scrubland badlands EX ish)
8x MM counterspells $4
Portal Devastation EXish $3
Basalt Monolith Beta NM- $3
card total $390

that was just in 2009

back in 2007 (where I won a T/A, seriously those existed back then):

You have won lot 1 (Guru Island)with a bid of $20 and 1x Force of Will.

or step into the way back machine to 2000:
Hey, I couldn't get IE working but I got the next best thing, Netscape. (yes, this was in my trade email)

you want a revised winter orb and force of will for 2 donate, 1 wave of terror and chronotog, yea i can do that, let me know if it is ok with you

and my favorite

My:
11 fbb duals I listed
3x Foil powder Keg
RV undergournd Sea
RV Tundra
RV Badlands

For your:
Time Walk
Mox Emerald
US Foil Island

I value the fbb duals at $15 each, the kegs at $12, and the RV duals at $8 each. That is a total of $225. I value the UL walk at $120 and the mox at $100

so wastelands at 1/1000th? sure... among other things.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:

I was around during the release of Tempest and don't remember wastelands ever being lower than $2

My shop had them at $.15 each, and no one wanted them.

 
Sovarius
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I used to think $35 for the Black Lotus at my very first card shop was a lot of money. I just didn't get it back then.

I would to have known then what i know now.

 
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I got 8 player rewards Wastelands in a collection bought for stuff other than them. I valued them about $5 each and was happily surprised to see them trade off easily at $8 or so.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
~stuff~

LOL. Netscape!

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Anyone have any predictions as to reprints in Journey Into Nyx, M15, or Conspiracy?

I am sitting on a lot of modern staples i will probably sell off during the season. I figure since i have more than one or two randoms it will really pay out to wait it out.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:
Anyone have any predictions as to reprints in Journey Into Nyx, M15, or Conspiracy?

I am sitting on a lot of modern staples i will probably sell off during the season. I figure since i have more than one or two randoms it will really pay out to wait it out.


Daybreak Coronet?

 
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Serum visions seems to be a big omission in theros block. And damnation will be in FTV annihilation. Also a land cycle will be in m15. Which one? I have no clue.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by jbark on March 31, 2014]
 
Sovarius
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Daybreak Coronet?

Coronet is the only obvious one, i think, because of it's possibility in Nyx.

I have a big handful of stuff like Snaps, Geists, Lily OTVs... I think those may not be reprinted very soon. But Tarm, Confidant, Cryptic, Coronet, Fulminator Mage, Iona, Wurmcoil Engine haven't been printed in a while and could use it. (not including the MM release which wasn't in a very large supply).
Fetches too, i have no idea when they will be printed again.

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quote:
Originally posted by jbark:
Also a land cycle will be in m15. Which one? I have no clue.

I will speculate that it won't be a fetch cycle. I don't think they'd ever put fetches and shocks in standard together.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:
Coronet is the only obvious one, i think, because of it's possibility in Nyx.

I have a big handful of stuff like Snaps, Geists, Lily OTVs... I think those may not be reprinted very soon. But Tarm, Confidant, Cryptic, Coronet, Fulminator Mage, Iona, Wurmcoil Engine haven't been printed in a while and could use it. (not including the MM release which wasn't in a very large supply).
Fetches too, i have no idea when they will be printed again.


tarm, bob, cryptic, iona, wurmcoil wont be printed in anything BUT a promo set again. Wotc isnt going to bring them back for standard.

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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
tarm, bob, cryptic, iona, wurmcoil wont be printed in anything BUT a promo set again. Wotc isnt going to bring them back for standard.


I was assuming like Conspiracy, or the next Modern Masters type thing. But why not Standard? Based on their power level?

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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:
But why not Standard? Based on their power level?

Those would be the most likely reasons. Most of those probably could be printed but it would depend on the overall environment having enough hate.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
tarm, bob, cryptic, iona, wurmcoil wont be printed in anything BUT a promo set again. Wotc isnt going to bring them back for standard.


i dont think bob is unprintable in standard. in the right environment, bob is good, but not overpowered. A couple of sets of bad dual lands followed by Thoughtseize rotating out of standard and I can totally see confidant coming back. As long as it isn't splashable in too many colors, it's a reasonable card.

There's no way Iona would make it into an expert level expansion. It would make no sense on another plane. I could see it making it into a core set flavor-wise, but only if its a fast draft format.

Stay tuned for 'Duel Decks: Goyf versus Wurmcoil'

 
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quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
i dont think bob is unprintable in standard. in the right environment, bob is good, but not overpowered. A couple of sets of bad dual lands followed by Thoughtseize rotating out of standard and I can totally see confidant coming back. As long as it isn't splashable in too many colors, it's a reasonable card.

There's no way Iona would make it into an expert level expansion. It would make no sense on another plane. I could see it making it into a core set flavor-wise, but only if its a fast draft format.

Stay tuned for 'Duel Decks: Goyf versus Wurmcoil'


Bob wasn't particularly busted when he was in standard last time.

Problem with cards like Wurmcoil is that they ruin limited. In Scars it was just so much better than anything else you could have fielded.

 
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http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1463

Duel Decks: Speed versus Cunning

This doesn't look like it has a huge potential for reprints as far as bringing any prices down in modern unless its loaded with expensive lands.

 
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That's why I am such a fan of modern. Wizards can print to their heart's content.

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quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
This doesn't look like it has a huge potential for reprints as far as bringing any prices down in modern unless its loaded with expensive lands.

It sounds like WR vs U(B?). If it has blue they could always pop in something like remand or serum visions. Is there any expensive white or red aggro in modern?

 

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