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Topic: The Post for Magic Stuff #86 - Where Modern is the new Legacy
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dfitzg88 Member
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posted March 27, 2014 03:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: When somebody is rushing out to buy a 270 revised volcanic island, my mind is blown.
"Random card on reprint list will go up in value alot at some point" Yeah, I called that happening.
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chaos021 Member
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posted March 27, 2014 04:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by dfitzg88: "Random card on reprint list will go up in value alot at some point"Yeah, I called that happening.
That's like predicting taxes will rise. __________________ "Message to women worldwide: Girls....we're stupid. We don't like games. We don't know games. We can't read minds. Say it like you mean or STFU." -rockondonMy Sale Thread
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CrazyBones Member
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posted March 27, 2014 04:43 PM
...or stamps. Well done.
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coasterdude84 Member
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posted March 27, 2014 06:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: When somebody is rushing out to buy a 270 revised volcanic island, my mind is blown.
Raise your hand if you remember buying Wastelands at 1/1000th their current price.
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oneofchaos Member
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posted March 27, 2014 10:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by dfitzg88: "Random card on reprint list will go up in value alot at some point"Yeah, I called that happening.
That's like saying that tomorrow will come after today. Seriously tho, Weren't people just whining about 300 Useas on SCG not even a month ago?
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wayne Member
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posted March 27, 2014 11:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by coasterdude84: Raise your hand if you remember buying Wastelands at 1/1000th their current price.
I was around during the release of Tempest and don't remember wastelands ever being lower than $2
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caquaa Member
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posted March 27, 2014 11:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by coasterdude84: Raise your hand if you remember buying Wastelands at 1/1000th their current price.
Lets see, check the old ref emails:
Beta Dual Lands $380 (taiga NMish just a small bit of edge chipping savannah, scrubland badlands EX ish) 8x MM counterspells $4 Portal Devastation EXish $3 Basalt Monolith Beta NM- $3 card total $390
that was just in 2009 back in 2007 (where I won a T/A, seriously those existed back then):
You have won lot 1 (Guru Island)with a bid of $20 and 1x Force of Will.
or step into the way back machine to 2000: Hey, I couldn't get IE working but I got the next best thing, Netscape. (yes, this was in my trade email) you want a revised winter orb and force of will for 2 donate, 1 wave of terror and chronotog, yea i can do that, let me know if it is ok with you and my favorite My: 11 fbb duals I listed 3x Foil powder Keg RV undergournd Sea RV Tundra RV Badlands For your: Time Walk Mox Emerald US Foil Island I value the fbb duals at $15 each, the kegs at $12, and the RV duals at $8 each. That is a total of $225. I value the UL walk at $120 and the mox at $100 so wastelands at 1/1000th? sure... among other things.
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coasterdude84 Member
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posted March 28, 2014 08:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by wayne:
I was around during the release of Tempest and don't remember wastelands ever being lower than $2
My shop had them at $.15 each, and no one wanted them.
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Sovarius Member
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posted March 29, 2014 01:00 PM
I used to think $35 for the Black Lotus at my very first card shop was a lot of money. I just didn't get it back then.I would to have known then what i know now.
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paragondave Member
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posted March 29, 2014 09:51 PM
I got 8 player rewards Wastelands in a collection bought for stuff other than them. I valued them about $5 each and was happily surprised to see them trade off easily at $8 or so.
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chaos021 Member
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posted March 29, 2014 10:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by caquaa: ~stuff~
LOL. Netscape! __________________ "Message to women worldwide: Girls....we're stupid. We don't like games. We don't know games. We can't read minds. Say it like you mean or STFU." -rockondonMy Sale Thread
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Sovarius Member
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posted March 31, 2014 02:33 PM
Anyone have any predictions as to reprints in Journey Into Nyx, M15, or Conspiracy?I am sitting on a lot of modern staples i will probably sell off during the season. I figure since i have more than one or two randoms it will really pay out to wait it out. __________________ Want Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief, and other vampire females oddities (foreign, foil, crimp, miscut, misprint, sign, test print, alters, artist proofs, etc)Building Ghave EDH, please check my threads. Sales Wants
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oneofchaos Member
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posted March 31, 2014 03:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sovarius: Anyone have any predictions as to reprints in Journey Into Nyx, M15, or Conspiracy?I am sitting on a lot of modern staples i will probably sell off during the season. I figure since i have more than one or two randoms it will really pay out to wait it out.
Daybreak Coronet?
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jbark Member
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posted March 31, 2014 03:33 PM
Serum visions seems to be a big omission in theros block. And damnation will be in FTV annihilation. Also a land cycle will be in m15. Which one? I have no clue.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by jbark on March 31, 2014]
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Sovarius Member
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posted April 01, 2014 05:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: Daybreak Coronet?
Coronet is the only obvious one, i think, because of it's possibility in Nyx. I have a big handful of stuff like Snaps, Geists, Lily OTVs... I think those may not be reprinted very soon. But Tarm, Confidant, Cryptic, Coronet, Fulminator Mage, Iona, Wurmcoil Engine haven't been printed in a while and could use it. (not including the MM release which wasn't in a very large supply). Fetches too, i have no idea when they will be printed again. __________________ Want Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief, and other vampire females oddities (foreign, foil, crimp, miscut, misprint, sign, test print, alters, artist proofs, etc)Building Ghave EDH, please check my threads. Sales Wants
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Pail42 Member
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posted April 01, 2014 10:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by jbark: Also a land cycle will be in m15. Which one? I have no clue.
I will speculate that it won't be a fetch cycle. I don't think they'd ever put fetches and shocks in standard together.
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thror Member
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posted April 01, 2014 11:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sovarius: Coronet is the only obvious one, i think, because of it's possibility in Nyx.I have a big handful of stuff like Snaps, Geists, Lily OTVs... I think those may not be reprinted very soon. But Tarm, Confidant, Cryptic, Coronet, Fulminator Mage, Iona, Wurmcoil Engine haven't been printed in a while and could use it. (not including the MM release which wasn't in a very large supply). Fetches too, i have no idea when they will be printed again.
tarm, bob, cryptic, iona, wurmcoil wont be printed in anything BUT a promo set again. Wotc isnt going to bring them back for standard. __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."<@Anusien> Pretty sure New Zealanders are the sheep shaggers <KIP_NZ> Anusien: I'm a kiwi and I've shagged a sheep <KIP_NZ> we kiwi's like our sheep
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oneofchaos Member
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posted April 01, 2014 11:23 AM
Also would say threads of disloyalty is possible.
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Sovarius Member
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posted April 01, 2014 11:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by thror: tarm, bob, cryptic, iona, wurmcoil wont be printed in anything BUT a promo set again. Wotc isnt going to bring them back for standard.
I was assuming like Conspiracy, or the next Modern Masters type thing. But why not Standard? Based on their power level? __________________ Want Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief, and other vampire females oddities (foreign, foil, crimp, miscut, misprint, sign, test print, alters, artist proofs, etc)Building Ghave EDH, please check my threads. Sales Wants
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Pail42 Member
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posted April 01, 2014 12:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sovarius: But why not Standard? Based on their power level?
Those would be the most likely reasons. Most of those probably could be printed but it would depend on the overall environment having enough hate.
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dfitzg88 Member
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posted April 01, 2014 01:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by thror: tarm, bob, cryptic, iona, wurmcoil wont be printed in anything BUT a promo set again. Wotc isnt going to bring them back for standard.
i dont think bob is unprintable in standard. in the right environment, bob is good, but not overpowered. A couple of sets of bad dual lands followed by Thoughtseize rotating out of standard and I can totally see confidant coming back. As long as it isn't splashable in too many colors, it's a reasonable card. There's no way Iona would make it into an expert level expansion. It would make no sense on another plane. I could see it making it into a core set flavor-wise, but only if its a fast draft format. Stay tuned for 'Duel Decks: Goyf versus Wurmcoil'
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Volcanon Member
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posted April 01, 2014 01:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by dfitzg88: i dont think bob is unprintable in standard. in the right environment, bob is good, but not overpowered. A couple of sets of bad dual lands followed by Thoughtseize rotating out of standard and I can totally see confidant coming back. As long as it isn't splashable in too many colors, it's a reasonable card.There's no way Iona would make it into an expert level expansion. It would make no sense on another plane. I could see it making it into a core set flavor-wise, but only if its a fast draft format. Stay tuned for 'Duel Decks: Goyf versus Wurmcoil'
Bob wasn't particularly busted when he was in standard last time. Problem with cards like Wurmcoil is that they ruin limited. In Scars it was just so much better than anything else you could have fielded.
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dfitzg88 Member
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posted April 02, 2014 02:05 PM
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1463Duel Decks: Speed versus Cunning This doesn't look like it has a huge potential for reprints as far as bringing any prices down in modern unless its loaded with expensive lands.
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JesusChristMD Member
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posted April 02, 2014 03:05 PM
That's why I am such a fan of modern. Wizards can print to their heart's content.__________________ Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore"
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Pail42 Member
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posted April 02, 2014 05:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by dfitzg88: This doesn't look like it has a huge potential for reprints as far as bringing any prices down in modern unless its loaded with expensive lands.
It sounds like WR vs U(B?). If it has blue they could always pop in something like remand or serum visions. Is there any expensive white or red aggro in modern?
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