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Originally posted by Jazaray:
You know Bugger, I think you step into my head and steal what I'm thinking. I'm finding it hard to continue my suspicions of you. If you had more games under your belt, I'd put you as one of the best players, before me!

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I'm flattered.

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I've been thinking the same thing about fwyb trying to get the next two strongest players (pgb and I) lynched. I was going to change my vote, as of the last post by fwyb, but I didn't feel I had a strong enough case against him.

One thing that I disagree with, is that I never tried to get fwyb to declare his votes, just expressed my opinion on the subject and he was after me anyways.

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Now that you mention it, you're right. And the temperment of his switch is all the more damning. He doesn't just say "I am suspicious of Jaz", he immediately starts suggesting you and PGB are both wolves. Look:

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Ahhh, I have been waiting for one more to come out against the undeclared votes. Of course you are against it Jaz, it would be hard for you and PGB to figure out how to lay your lynch vote for when no one would declare their vote (...) Maybe, just maybe you have some brothers in sheeps clothing in "The 7" this is why you did not want to follow that strategy.

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You know, this is making me even more certain of my choice, because this is pretty off-the-handle in terms of caution. I was looking for anyone who suddenly became more open or reckless in posting after the seer and the angel were dead, this fits. I was worried that the wolves might be experienced or disciplined enough to keep their emotions under wraps, but fwy's jumping the gun here reminds me of my doing the same last round when I declared for Chuck before night phase was actually over.

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I'm willing to switch my vote this round to fwyb, and I would encourage others to do so.

Voting fwyb

... I hate you. :P

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Love you too, Jaz

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1 - I'm not supporting you lol, dont get it twisted.

As I stated:
"If so I want see who voted for him, cuz I didnt. Bugger had not been entirely on the "Liq stragety" wagon, nor the "do not declare" wagon, but he wasn't entirely against it either. so Im still on the fence about him. He stated that if liq put himself up and was a villager he would be willing to continue on with the strategy.'Page 5' "

I cant see where you got that I was supporting you lol, in fact this whole post is a post of desperation to me. You are only suspicious in my eyes, tho there are 2 others I suspect with actual data I can look at.

2 - PGB and Jaz are my main suspicions because of what I have been trying to do and they both voiced their opinions strongly against my strategy. This is done by my own doing. i dont include anyone in this as I am doing this as my own strategy. basically as we have none.

3 - I never said that this strategy would be long term, never did. And in mafia, there were accusaations and suspicions galore...I cannot see where you are getting this.

4 - Your quote: "What fwy's basically saying is that without the seer we shouldn't do anything." I didnt say this in any content. At all. If you continued on with the quote, you would had pasted this: To me this is new, with the Angel and Seer now gone...with this only been round 2 lynch why not try it out?" (I was talking about the silent vote for round 2)

You are really reaching here....and imo this is some desperation play on your part.

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Originally posted by Jazaray:

I'm willing to switch my vote this round to fwyb, and I would encourage others to do so.

Voting fwyb

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Of course you would Jaz, I would expect no less.

Im willing to be bait...for good of the Poggle....

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
Bugger,

1 - I'm not supporting you lol, dont get it twisted.

As I stated:
"If so I want see who voted for him, cuz I didnt. Bugger had not been entirely on the "Liq stragety" wagon, nor the "do not declare" wagon, but he wasn't entirely against it either. so Im still on the fence about him. He stated that if liq put himself up and was a villager he would be willing to continue on with the strategy.'Page 5' "

I cant see where you got that I was supporting you lol, in fact this whole post is a post of desperation to me. You are only suspicious in my eyes, tho there are 2 others I suspect with actual data I can look at.

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Ah, so I am suspicious. That clears things up. After all, you said yourself:

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Originally posted by Fwybwed:
IMO, Bugger is not suspect, more on this if he makes it past the lynch.

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2 - PGB and Jaz are my main suspicions because of what I have been trying to do and they both voiced their opinions strongly against my strategy.

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Here's PGB against your plan:

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Originally posted by puregoblinboy47:
So in the game where we have minimal outside information, you want to remove the information within the game as well? oookay...

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I also think that we should declare votes, but that's just my opinion. I will continue to declare my votes and you guys can do what you want to do, in that area. I am tired of seeing fwyb's "I know who my vote is for..." every single post. Yeah, we get it, you're not declaring. Whoopie.

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WELL THEN WHY THE HELL WOULD WE STOP THEM?! One of the many tried-and-true indicators of wolfhood is tendency to wagon. What you're claiming is something bad is actually something good- it gives us piles, lets us figure out how the wolves are going to strategically place their votes, and even gives us a starting list of people to watch. You are really thinking this through badly, fwy. And I'm not so sure it's not deliberate.

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This is done by my own doing. i dont include anyone in this as I am doing this as my own strategy. basically as we have none.

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BULL****. You're asking everyone you can every single round to do the same.

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I wanna suggest we try something for the first round...
When we declare our votes in the open we usually give a path to the opposing team to place their votes accordingly during the lynch phase...

I say we still list our suspicions in no particular order and voice our opinions, but not declare our vote for the first round. The first round is always random choices. So it really wouldnt hurt us...I have heard some people bring this up and think it could be plausible for the first round.

Pro...

We hang a Wolf

Con...

We hang one of our own, We possibly would have done this with a declared vote anyways.

Thoughts?
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I still feel we have a chance to win, and use the silent vote at that. We could try this for one round to see where everyone is voting. It wouldn't hurt to try it.
No one seems to be down with this. I understand cuz we might have hung the Angel or Seer, but now, we have niether so....

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3 - I never said that this strategy would be long term, never did. And in mafia, there were accusaations and suspicions galore...I cannot see where you are getting this.

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Here's where I'm going: When the cits don't declare or talk, the mafia wins. Is that clear enough for you?

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4 - Your quote: "What fwy's basically saying is that without the seer we shouldn't do anything." I didnt say this in any content. At all. If you continued on with the quote, you would had pasted this: To me this is new, with the Angel and Seer now gone...with this only been round 2 lynch why not try it out?" (I was talking about the silent vote for round 2)

You are really reaching here....and imo this is some desperation play on your part.

Fwy

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I could say the same about you.
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I may not have you dead centre yet, but I still have a feeling you are up to no good, as for my strategy it was my idea alone no one elses, of course I would need people on board.

Quote: Here's where I'm going: When the cits don't declare or talk, the mafia wins. Is that clear enough for you?

No please clarify, but only for the first two rounds please, in which I wanted to everyone run silent. Say everyone did run silent for the first lynch, and voted for me... that is a chance I would have to take. ww's dont take chances they survive on fact.

Do I think you are a Cit, maybe....so what, you have dug your own hole.

Im a Villager, I want to find out who the wolves are this was my strategy and no one wanted to be a part of. I stated it out loud and 2 people voiced against it. Jaz doesnt like me not revealing, why? i dunno but why does she need to know, Why does PGB want a voiced communicative game.

THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE VOTE...lol.

They, the ww's need to know. That way they dont lose one of thier own. With a voiced vote they know where to manipulate the game in their favor in the first 2-3 rounds. If we went the silent route it could have been different.

I emphasize COULD because we lynch our own in the early game anyways because we have no info or proof.

So I would have been taking a huge chance on my part a ww if I did this, dont you think?

I wish some of the major players were in, but imo 2 of the ww's are vets.

Go with me, with your votes you will see Im an innocent.

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
lol Calm down dude... this is just a game, you are taking this way to personal....hahaaa

I may not have you dead centre yet, but I still have a feeling you are up to no good, as for my strategy it was my idea alone no one elses, of course I would need people on board.

Quote: Here's where I'm going: When the cits don't declare or talk, the mafia wins. Is that clear enough for you?

No please clarify, but only for the first two rounds please, in which I wanted to everyone run silent. Say everyone did run silent for the first lynch, and voted for me... that is a chance I would have to take. ww's dont take chances they survive on fact.

Do I think you are a Cit, maybe....so what, you have dug your own hole.

Im a Villager, I want to find out who the wolves are this was my strategy and no one wanted to be a part of. I stated it out loud and 2 people voiced against it. Jaz doesnt like me not revealing, why? i dunno but why does she need to know, Why does PGB want a voiced communicative game.

THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE VOTE...lol.

They, the ww's need to know. That way they dont lose one of thier own. With a voiced vote they know where to manipulate the game in their favor in the first 2-3 rounds. If we went the silent route it could have been different.

I emphasize COULD because we lynch our own in the early game anyways because we have no info or proof.

So I would have been taking a huge chance on my part a ww if I did this, dont you think?

I wish some of the major players were in, but imo 2 of the ww's are vets.

Go with me, with your votes you will see Im an innocent.

But, know who my suspects are when you do and look back at them.

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You just keep on losing coherence in your posts and your argument. Why do you keep posting anyway? You certainly haven't done so to refute my argument. All you've done is employ the Ridicule Fallacy (dude this is just a game... hahahaaa) and a bunch of vague repetition of everything you've said before. Do I think you're a werewolf? Yes. Do I hope you're a werewolf? Absolutely, because otherwise it'd mean you're playing a particularly terrible game. Oh, and in case saying it once wasn't enough: you still haven't addressed the holes in your defense.

This is going to be my last post before the voting deadline; you haven't done anything to sufficiently advance the debate.

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To Bernek: You're not making any sense whatsoever, even when what you're typing vaguely resembles coherence. You're looking to relive last game, Bernek. This is not last game.

To me: You just keep on losing coherence in your posts and your argument. Why do you keep posting anyway? You certainly haven't done so to refute my argument.

I have answered you and more…. You fail to read.

It seems to me you are just throwing out names lately and Im the latest name in the list cause I have been posting something of relevance and you just throw out suspicion every where and on every one. You sir are a liability to us as a Village. You remind me of that lady in “Stephen King’s The Mist” We must sacrifice the boy!!!!! hahaaaa with out even know what the mist was about, just assumed. And that is basically what you are doing with every name that came out your mouth.

I have no holes in any defense, no one has accused me of anything but you. I know for fact you haven’t read my post cuz you fail to clarify why my strategy is null. Oh let me guess your done for now…lol w/e

These names you have spouted out of your venomous mouth

GLE Shredded
Liq Lynched
OB
Revenger
ToL
And Me,

And you call out randon to post cuz he’s playing quiet… try to put eyes on him.

You sure seem to be pointing the finger around.

Ill be surprised if I’m lynched. But hey what the heck I tried and I only have 3 names to look at

Jaz
PGB
And you.

My first vote was a guess on some not much evidence.

I have put in my vote and it wasn’t for you, but I tell ya sir your mouth sure is loud when you get put up for discussion. Almost, ALMOOOOOOOOST makes me wanna change it. but I wont I believe Im right. Why cuz its all I have for now.

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Originally posted by fwybwed:

It seems to me you are just throwing out names lately and Im the latest name in the list cause I have been posting something of relevance and you just throw out suspicion every where and on every one. You sir are a liability to us as a Village. You remind me of that lady in “Stephen King’s The Mist” We must sacrifice the boy!!!!! hahaaaa with out even know what the mist was about, just assumed. And that is basically what you are doing with every name that came out your mouth.

I have no holes in any defense, no one has accused me of anything but you. I know for fact you haven’t read my post cuz you fail to clarify why my strategy is null. Oh let me guess your done for now…lol w/e

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Originally posted by MasterWolf:
S2) Vote off each person who voted Liq round 1 until you hit a wolf.
Bugger ~ Liq (1)
Our_Benefactors ~ Liq (3)
revenger ~ Liq (4)

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I've decided to follow this strategy. I've switched my vote to Bugger. I'm going to be voting for the above three until a wolf is hit.

**Pogglesworth is at war. For a second time a lynch mob has formed. This time they are headed toward the house of fwybwed. Fwybwed was pulled out of his bed, and taken to the nearest tree and hung. This poor villager was just trying to get some rest after a long day's work

Deputy Jones "fwybwed never did any harm to anyone, was a shame this has come to this"

Players ~ Their vote
Bugger ~ fwybwed (1)
ThoughtsofLepers ~ None
BernieB ~ Bugger (1)
koodkkslis ~ fwybwed (2)
Battle_of_Twits ~ None
randon ~ None
Our_Benefactors ~ Fwybwed (3)
Jazaray ~ Fwybwed (4)
AlmasterGM ~ Bugger (2)
revenger ~ Jazaray (1)
MasterWolf ~ Bugger (3)
Bernek ~ Bugger (4)
fwybwed ~ PGB (1)
PureGoblinBoy ~ Fwybwed (5)

Werewolves, your name please.

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There is no team work and you can call this another possible clean sweep.

I think the wolves are all inexperienced, I think they are going after the high profile players and I think there is at least 2 in the fwy vote. Time to compare the fwy voters to both Liq's List.

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
We lost a villager and it could of been someone else! I am highly upset with how this game has transpired up to this point.

There is no team work and you can call this another possible clean sweep.

I think the wolves are all inexperienced, I think they are going after the high profile players and I think there is at least 2 in the fwy vote. Time to compare the fwy voters to both Liq's List.

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No teamwork? We worked to lynch someone who was proposing and adamantly for an idea that most of us felt was against the best interest of the cits. His refusal to acknowledge the other point of view is what lynched him, and it was a team effort that made him speak until he damned himself. So what if he ended up being a cit? This is only the second lynching and he did himself in

And stop conceeding. It really annoys me that you have no faith in playing.

We have 3 no voters that are the farthest away from being part of any team plan, randon especially. Randon is absolute deadweight and not helping anything. BoT is in the same boat, and worse yet, he has been posting elsewhere. I have a hunch that ToL basically quit the game when we kept calling him out for his poor play.

EDIT: didn't know that wouldn't trigger the autocensor. Huh. Fixt just in case.

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Bugger is playing like PD last game. No one sees it but me and PD was a wolf last game. Also, Bugger was against the piles last game and he turned up to be a wolf. That is all I am saying from here on out. I have the FLU I will be casting my vote early whether or not I live and sticking to it.

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
3 switched voted, and 3 non votes. Only a few people going with others opinions. We have not had one single dominated vote. So yeah PGB I will say that there is no teamwork.

Bugger is playing like PD last game. No one sees it but me and PD was a wolf last game. Also, Bugger was against the piles last game and he turned up to be a wolf. That is all I am saying from here on out. I have the FLU I will be casting my vote early whether or not I live and sticking to it.

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*sigh* I should have known that trying to get a reaction out of you back at the beginning of the doing would get me permanently on your suspect list. Bernek, you have to stop reliving last game. Last game your argument was utter **** and it was largely by coincidence and luck you happened to be right. Don't let it go to your head.

Aaaah, why do I bother. Everything I say now will be misinterpreted by you. If I feel it's truly worth the effort, I'll give you a longer response, but I like (read: find it deeply funny) that part of what makes you suspicious of me is... that I'm playing like someone who was a wolf LAST game- and the angel this time, no less.

EDIT: bernek, seriously, what the **** are you smoking? I said I was FOR pile analysis. Next time read what I said instead of what you HOPED I said. Jesus.

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voted off both cits. They were in the original Liq pile. I feel like we have no choice but to eliminate that pile.