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pi
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posted August 26, 2017 03:49 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for pi Send a private message to pi Click to send pi an Instant MessageVisit pi's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I remember so many of those names mentioned.

Just came across another former MOTL user, KIP_NZ, who remembered my username from here. Sad to see the current state of the site, but glad you're all still doing well. I've still been using the ref system all these years, but haven't really checked the forum much.

I guess I just wanted to say "hi" for those who are still around.

 
Kung_Fuscious
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Hello

Can I remember my password?

 
BoltBait
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quote:
Originally posted by ronandaggy:
Victoria (our daughter) was diagnosed diabetic at 6 yrs old. She takes 5 insulin injections daily

My son was diagnosed at 10. He does the same thing... plus all the finger pricks for blood tests.

He's a total trooper.

I can't even imagine doing this myself.

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posted August 28, 2017 01:22 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for ronandaggy Send a private message to ronandaggy Click to send ronandaggy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by BoltBait:
My son was diagnosed at 10. He does the same thing... plus all the finger pricks for blood tests.

He's a total trooper.

I can't even imagine doing this myself.


Right!! I couldn't either, I tried.
Pump therapy, were doing that right now actually for the past few months. What a difference, 1 needle every 3 days.
It's a bit harder to manage but she's happy. We got the tubeless waterproof Omnipod

 
Shadow88
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posted August 29, 2017 05:06 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Shadow88 Click Here to Email Shadow88 Send a private message to Shadow88 Click to send Shadow88 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Kung_Fuscious:
Hello

Can I remember my password?


You made a post ages ago and ended it with a comma, which spawned a page full of troll replies wondering what happened to you. I think back to that and laugh a little in my head every time I see someone make a similar typo. It's a shame this forum is such a graveyard now; I only really check it because of nostalgia at this point.

 
AGO
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posted September 06, 2017 11:42 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for AGO Click Here to Email AGO Send a private message to AGO Click to send AGO an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
My user name started here and died here but I still see some others use their same name on other boards.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by AGO:
My user name started here and died here but I still see some others use their same name on other boards.

Yeah, I use mine far and wide. Well, in a couple places. Just one these days, really. But still!

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Any mods still monitoring the BTA?

No posts by a mod in weeks.

Many open threads.

 
Tha Gunslinga
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quote:
Originally posted by paragondave:
Any mods still monitoring the BTA?

No posts by a mod in weeks.

Many open threads.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMTAUr3Nm6I

inigomontoya
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Surprised I was able to remember my password. Good thing too, since I deactivated the email tied to this account years ago...
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMTAUr3Nm6I

this video gave me cancer.

 
The WORST ever
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFAjMRTfWvg to undo that.
 
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posted December 22, 2017 12:59 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Rhystic Click Here to Email Rhystic Send a private message to Rhystic Click to send Rhystic an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
what happened here....
 
paragondave
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quote:
Originally posted by Rhystic:
what happened here....

the ruling on this BTA thread happened...

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/005208.html

 
Vegas10
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posted December 23, 2017 07:47 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Vegas10 Click Here to Email Vegas10 Send a private message to Vegas10 Click to send Vegas10 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by paragondave:
the ruling on this BTA thread happened...

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/005208.html


I'd say the lack of interest by the owner to either actively be involved with the site or sell it off is the main issue.

 
puregoblinboy47
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posted December 24, 2017 11:37 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for puregoblinboy47 Click Here to Email puregoblinboy47 Send a private message to puregoblinboy47 Click to send puregoblinboy47 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I like the transaction rules on NintendoAge, which is like MOTL for video games. MOTL should have adpoted something like they had long ago. Like, use paypal. Users are forbidden from asking for the 3% transaction fee because paypal rules are the recourse if you get ripped. Don't trade with members with no feedback. All users agree to a transaction similar to ebay and are bound to it when both party members accept it. If you are unhappy with your transactionm, you just leave bad feedback. Too much bad feedback and you are suspended from making transactions. Simple and very effective.
 
AEther Storm
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quote:
Originally posted by puregoblinboy47:
I like the transaction rules on NintendoAge, which is like MOTL for video games. MOTL should have adpoted something like they had long ago. Like, use paypal. Users are forbidden from asking for the 3% transaction fee because paypal rules are the recourse if you get ripped. Don't trade with members with no feedback. All users agree to a transaction similar to ebay and are bound to it when both party members accept it. If you are unhappy with your transactionm, you just leave bad feedback. Too much bad feedback and you are suspended from making transactions. Simple and very effective.

I can shoot a few holes in this but I understand your point (for instance, in this case, a new member can never ever trade because he has 0 feedback, which can't be the case).

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puregoblinboy47
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posted December 29, 2017 03:03 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for puregoblinboy47 Click Here to Email puregoblinboy47 Send a private message to puregoblinboy47 Click to send puregoblinboy47 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Theres no perfect system. But there's is better than this one was. Sending arrangements still apply, though. Low refs send first, etc. It's a common sense forum. Definetly more buying and selling going on there considering video games are much more expensive to ship than magic card singles. Someone knowledgeable about coding should check it out. I bet it's real simple to build.

Plus, imagine we can skip the whole BTA month long process. Leave negative feedback, file paypal claim and DONE!


Edit: Shoot away! I'm down to defend it!(Not like there's any more stimulating discussions going on here than this one.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by puregoblinboy47 on December 29, 2017]

 
paragondave
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quote:
Originally posted by Vegas10:
I'd say the lack of interest by the owner to either actively be involved with the site or sell it off is the main issue.

the site works as well as it did from the beginning, if you're not too lazy to do the legwork to put a trade together. The fall off of people using MOTL may be affected by that, but the people willing to do their own legwork has dropped due to the ruling. The lack of mod involvement currently mirrors that. It sucks but I am grateful to all of the people that made trading on MOTL for the last 17 years possible. I still meet new people and complete trades with them and I have made many friends on MOTL that I stay in touch with regularly.

It would be nice if the site could be updated but that ruling by the now mostly MIA mods, single handedly ushered in the decline, no doubt about it.

 
puregoblinboy47
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quote:
Originally posted by paragondave:
the site works as well as it did from the beginning, if you're not too lazy to do the legwork to put a trade together. The fall off of people using MOTL may be affected by that, but the people willing to do their own legwork has dropped due to the ruling. The lack of mod involvement currently mirrors that. It sucks but I am grateful to all of the people that made trading on MOTL for the last 17 years possible. I still meet new people and complete trades with them and I have made many friends on MOTL that I stay in touch with regularly.

It would be nice if the site could be updated but that ruling by the now mostly MIA mods, single handedly ushered in the decline, no doubt about it.



I don't get why that ruling is such a big deal? If you are sending $200+, why would you not insure it? Packages get stolen all the time.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by paragondave:
the site works as well as it did from the beginning, if you're not too lazy to do the legwork to put a trade together. The fall off of people using MOTL may be affected by that, but the people willing to do their own legwork has dropped due to the ruling. The lack of mod involvement currently mirrors that. It sucks but I am grateful to all of the people that made trading on MOTL for the last 17 years possible. I still meet new people and complete trades with them and I have made many friends on MOTL that I stay in touch with regularly.

I do agree the ruling was terrible
It would be nice if the site could be updated but that ruling by the now mostly MIA mods, single handedly ushered in the decline, no doubt about it.


 
paragondave
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quote:
Originally posted by puregoblinboy47:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by paragondave:
the site works as well as it did from the beginning, if you're not too lazy to do the legwork to put a trade together. The fall off of people using MOTL may be affected by that, but the people willing to do their own legwork has dropped due to the ruling. The lack of mod involvement currently mirrors that. It sucks but I am grateful to all of the people that made trading on MOTL for the last 17 years possible. I still meet new people and complete trades with them and I have made many friends on MOTL that I stay in touch with regularly.

It would be nice if the site could be updated but that ruling by the now mostly MIA mods, single handedly ushered in the decline, no doubt about it.



I don't get why that ruling is such a big deal? If you are sending $200+, why would you not insure it? Packages get stolen all the time.
[/QUOTE]

In that particular case, the package was delivered to the correct address. The address was an apartment in an apartment building. The recipient left town while it was in transit without having his mail held or taking any precautions or making any notifications. The recipient was the only person who knew how the package would be delivered and did nothing to make sure it was safe. The fall off of activity on MOTL immediately after this ruling was evident to anyone using the site regularly. Why set it at the $200 level, why not $190. $150, $99. $30? The package was delivered and the recipient admits that he was out of town when it was delivered. Why is that the sender's fault? It's not, hence the current state MOTL is in today.

Many of us who send a lot of packages and have used MOTL for years saw this eventuality from the start.

 
puregoblinboy47
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quote:
Originally posted by paragondave:
In that particular case, the package was delivered to the correct address. The address was an apartment in an apartment building. The recipient left town while it was in transit without having his mail held or taking any precautions or making any notifications. The recipient was the only person who knew how the package would be delivered and did nothing to make sure it was safe. The fall off of activity on MOTL immediately after this ruling was evident to anyone using the site regularly. Why set it at the $200 level, why not $190. $150, $99. $30? The package was delivered and the recipient admits that he was out of town when it was delivered. Why is that the sender's fault? It's not, hence the current state MOTL is in today.

Many of us who send a lot of packages and have used MOTL for years saw this eventuality from the start.


That is some bad form to leave town. Poor guy would have got volcanic islands from someone else, since he needed them for a tournament.

Hooskdaddy was a popularish forum regular, correct? That have anything to do with that? Was there a debate among memebers after that ruling that popped up? That should have at least led to rules changes.

A package with 2 booster boxes would need to be sent priority though, which comes with $50 free insurance. Did noone care to mention that to OP? It's some BS that the topic was just locked with no further arguing from either party. And MOTLs weak ref checker system is set up so the OP can't even leave him with a bad ref. Hooskdaddy just never sends a ref checker and as far as MOTL is concerned, he never screwed this one up.

EDIT: I just noticed that the OP was Canadian. Canada post may very well not auto insure packages.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by puregoblinboy47 on January 01, 2018]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by puregoblinboy47:
That is some bad form to leave town. Poor guy would have got volcanic islands from someone else, since he needed them for a tournament.

Hooskdaddy was a popularish forum regular, correct? That have anything to do with that? Was there a debate among memebers after that ruling that popped up? That should have at least led to rules changes.

A package with 2 booster boxes would need to be sent priority though, which comes with $50 free insurance. Did noone care to mention that to OP? It's some BS that the topic was just locked with no further arguing from either party. And MOTLs weak ref checker system is set up so the OP can't even leave him with a bad ref. Hooskdaddy just never sends a ref checker and as far as MOTL is concerned, he never screwed this one up.

EDIT: I just noticed that the OP was Canadian. Canada post may very well not auto insure packages.


no idea how well the recipient was known in either the forums or by the mods prior to the ruling but he is well known now. There was tons of discussion prior to the decision in several threads including many posts by then active mods. The ruling change was that DC is worthless on deals over $200. No idea how they came up with that random amount.

 
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Yeah, i remember that case. I remember most people were pretty unhappy with how that case was handled, myself included. I didn't leave because of it, but because no one maintained the site.

PS. Hooskdaddy was then saying how he was a benevolent person for suggesting to ship just ONE volvanic from the bondess of his heart. Just a scumbag if you ask me.

 

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