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LandDestroyer Member	posted June 21, 2015 08:48 PM I just want the search feature updated with all the new cards ... and the site to not expire...
KirdApe Member	posted June 22, 2015 12:21 PM it's such a shame as there are still a decent amount of new traders coming in here. it wouldn't take much effort at all to keep things updated. 13 years on here....man I remember back in the day when you could find everything on here. I still have good luck trading here, but the pool is but a fraction of what it once was. [Edited 1 times, lastly by KirdApe on June 22, 2015]
LandDestroyer Member	posted July 07, 2015 10:45 AM anyone have statistics on how many unique users we get on the site these days? quote: Originally posted by killakyle: After gathering hosting data, the expiration date of MOTL is 9/16/15 quote: Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga: That's when the domain expires, according to whois.com. I doubt it'll come to that--Eddie has never failed to renew before. So...2 more months until MOTL disappears or do we live for another year? Edit: Time is still ticking away http://www.whois.com/whois/magictraders.com Domain Name: MAGICTRADERS.COM Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 146 Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com Name Server: NS1.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS2.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS3.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS4.LINODE.COM Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited Updated Date: 16-sep-2014 Creation Date: 16-sep-1999 Expiration Date: 16-sep-2015 magictraders.com registrar whois Updated 1 second ago Domain Name: MAGICTRADERS.COM Registry Domain ID: 10255778_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com Update Date: 2014-09-16T14:38:26Z Creation Date: 1999-09-16T04:09:04Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-09-16T04:09:04Z Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC Registrar IANA ID: 146 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: email@godaddy.com Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505 Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited Registry Registrant ID: Registrant Name: Edward Holman Registrant Organization: Registrant Street: 2154 University Ave. Registrant City: Berkeley Registrant State/Province: California Registrant Postal Code: 94704 Registrant Country: United States Registrant Phone: Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: email@secureserver.net Registry Admin ID: Admin Name: Edward Holman Admin Organization: Admin Street: 2154 University Ave. Admin City: Berkeley Admin State/Province: California Admin Postal Code: 94704 Admin Country: United States Admin Phone: 510-883-0814 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: 510-217-6857 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: email@eudemonia.net Registry Tech ID: Tech Name: Edward Holman Tech Organization: Tech Street: 2154 University Ave. Tech City: Berkeley Tech State/Province: California Tech Postal Code: 94704 Tech Country: United States Tech Phone: 510-883-0814 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: 510-217-6857 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: email@eudemonia.net Name Server: NS1.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS2.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS3.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS4.LINODE.COM DNSSEC: unsigned URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/ >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-07-07T17:00:00Z <<< Edit again: Looks like a new article got posted 7/3 http://www.magictraders.com/articles/eric-severson/top-4-at-gp-providence So ... someone is doing something. Wish they'd reach out to us. [Edited 4 times, lastly by LandDestroyer on July 07, 2015]
Gawain Member	posted July 07, 2015 12:01 PM I just don't understand the part where he won't let somebody else do the work to revive the place. That's the part that doesn't make sense. We have people who are interested, who have the talent, who can put up the money; it's generally agreed and understood that this is the best community on any similar such site, and people still actively trade here. I pop in and out but I'm always on for months at a time trading, and I always tell people to check this site out. I just don't get it. Revive it or let it die, but why the languishing? Why the sit and twist act? Also, hi everybody. I miss playing Werewolf and Mafia and shooting the **** with all you extremely intelligent people. It really is a bummer that things have gone the way they have. Thanks Slinga for staying active as a mod, and Junichi, and Nder and Jaz and anybody who does or has done anything at all to keep this place going as long as it has. Anybody gets any genius ideas for getting the reins to this place in somebody else's hands I'm all ears and maybe a few dollars too! Been trading here since I was in highschool and gotten some of my best cards from doing so, wouldn't do certain deals anywhere else.
hilikuS Member	posted July 07, 2015 12:12 PM I feel like this would have been asked once already, and or isn't a good idea, but what if somebody hosted a trade matcher on another site. Like, it can't be that hard to code. Figure out how it's done, and write a script to read your MOTL list. Basically copy the link to your list, the link to the other guy's list. Hit submit. The script reads both lists and compares. The site could probably list your stuff with prices at the same time by querying TCG or something. Seems like some work, but doable. Then it would just be a matter of getting the word out to traders. Whoever makes the trade matcher site happen will get all the hits from google ads or whatever, so it would be worth a little bit of money too. If your site works well enough, just the ability to type up a list and price it quickly would be worth something. [Edited 1 times, lastly by hilikuS on July 07, 2015]
LandDestroyer Member	posted July 07, 2015 01:30 PM quote: Originally posted by hilikuS: I feel like this would have been asked once already, and or isn't a good idea, but what if somebody hosted a trade matcher on another site. Like, it can't be that hard to code. Figure out how it's done, and write a script to read your MOTL list. Basically copy the link to your list, the link to the other guy's list. Hit submit. The script reads both lists and compares. The site could probably list your stuff with prices at the same time by querying TCG or something. Seems like some work, but doable. Then it would just be a matter of getting the word out to traders. Whoever makes the trade matcher site happen will get all the hits from google ads or whatever, so it would be worth a little bit of money too. If your site works well enough, just the ability to type up a list and price it quickly would be worth something. Someone already created a chrome script for this purpose I believe but I've never actually gotten around to using it
Gawain Member	posted July 07, 2015 03:21 PM quote: Originally posted by hilikuS: I feel like this would have been asked once already, and or isn't a good idea, but what if somebody hosted a trade matcher on another site. Like, it can't be that hard to code. Figure out how it's done, and write a script to read your MOTL list. Basically copy the link to your list, the link to the other guy's list. Hit submit. The script reads both lists and compares. The site could probably list your stuff with prices at the same time by querying TCG or something. Seems like some work, but doable. Then it would just be a matter of getting the word out to traders. Whoever makes the trade matcher site happen will get all the hits from google ads or whatever, so it would be worth a little bit of money too. If your site works well enough, just the ability to type up a list and price it quickly would be worth something. Ha ha, so like an MOTL transplant? That could work I would think...this is one of those times I wish I had some skills in the coding department, would love to offer more than just moral support.
LandDestroyer Member	posted July 09, 2015 10:28 AM heh he res'd his thread http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/026273.html
thewarden Member	posted July 09, 2015 06:37 PM You could always use pucatrade.com although a good site I don't like the fact you can't haggle and negotiate with someone and even if you have the points to get a card its up to someone to decide to send it to you.....
harbingerofthevoid Member	posted July 10, 2015 03:44 PM Yeah the issues with pucatrade (just actually started using my 2(?) year old account recently) are imo: You can't send cards to someone if they don't have the points. So I found this trader and had like 99% of the list. Go to start sending, noticed the points and that they were in New Zealand. Yeah, um 1 50 cent card... No thanks. Also, if you have points and gave say 1 big want and 30 tiny ones, you're goibg to get all the tiny ones killing your points. It's not trading. It's getting credit. Idea is sound but I guess after like a decade trading on here, well, I'm just going to use it for literally junk cards. Not going to send a Mox Diamond just to get 800 mountain goats.
thewarden Member	posted July 19, 2015 05:38 PM lol yeah it has flaws for sure i dunno i just don't post the junk crap that I want I just got back into magic after 10 years and I build a whole modern GR Tron deck and a casual squirrel deck in a few weeeks and all i really mailed out were commons and uncommons i had from 10 years ago that went now worth money so it worked out for me......but also its much harder to be "ripped" on pucatrade the point system is basically currency and you have to send out cards to get money so people are less likely to rip people off in my opinion
Child of Gaea Member	posted July 20, 2015 02:55 PM https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/3dv1t0/my_collections_were_stolen_this_week_need_help/ People even getting ripped off outside the store now and not just on the stores computers lol... If anyone wants to bother, there are quite a few people on the reddit thread that have the Berkeley LGS as their local LGS. Maybe it could be a way to contact those that are unreachable other ways? Probably not but there's the info anyways.
LandDestroyer Member	posted September 21, 2015 03:10 PM quote: Originally posted by LandDestroyer: anyone have statistics on how many unique users we get on the site these days? So...2 more months until MOTL disappears or do we live for another year? Edit: Time is still ticking away http://www.whois.com/whois/magictraders.com Domain Name: MAGICTRADERS.COM Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 146 Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com Name Server: NS1.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS2.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS3.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS4.LINODE.COM Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited Updated Date: 16-sep-2014 Creation Date: 16-sep-1999 Expiration Date: 16-sep-2015 magictraders.com registrar whois Updated 1 second ago Domain Name: MAGICTRADERS.COM Registry Domain ID: 10255778_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com Update Date: 2014-09-16T14:38:26Z Creation Date: 1999-09-16T04:09:04Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-09-16T04:09:04Z Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC Registrar IANA ID: 146 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: email@godaddy.com Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505 Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited Registry Registrant ID: Registrant Name: Edward Holman Registrant Organization: Registrant Street: 2154 University Ave. Registrant City: Berkeley Registrant State/Province: California Registrant Postal Code: 94704 Registrant Country: United States Registrant Phone: Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: email@secureserver.net Registry Admin ID: Admin Name: Edward Holman Admin Organization: Admin Street: 2154 University Ave. Admin City: Berkeley Admin State/Province: California Admin Postal Code: 94704 Admin Country: United States Admin Phone: 510-883-0814 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: 510-217-6857 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: email@eudemonia.net Registry Tech ID: Tech Name: Edward Holman Tech Organization: Tech Street: 2154 University Ave. Tech City: Berkeley Tech State/Province: California Tech Postal Code: 94704 Tech Country: United States Tech Phone: 510-883-0814 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: 510-217-6857 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: email@eudemonia.net Name Server: NS1.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS2.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS3.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS4.LINODE.COM DNSSEC: unsigned URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/ >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-07-07T17:00:00Z <<< Edit again: Looks like a new article got posted 7/3 http://www.magictraders.com/articles/eric-severson/top-4-at-gp-providence So ... someone is doing something. Wish they'd reach out to us. Well, you'll probably all be happy to know disaster has been averted for another year: http://www.whois.com/whois/magictraders.com magictraders.com registry whois Updated 1 second ago - Refresh Domain Name: MAGICTRADERS.COM Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 146 Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com Name Server: NS1.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS2.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS3.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS4.LINODE.COM Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited Updated Date: 16-sep-2015 Creation Date: 16-sep-1999 Expiration Date: 16-sep-2016 magictraders.com registrar whois Updated 1 second ago Domain Name: MAGICTRADERS.COM Registry Domain ID: 10255778_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com Update Date: 2015-09-16T10:31:50Z Creation Date: 1999-09-16T04:09:04Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-09-16T04:09:04Z Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC Registrar IANA ID: 146 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: email@godaddy.com Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505 Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited Registry Registrant ID: Registrant Name: Edward Holman Registrant Organization: Registrant Street: 2154 University Ave. Registrant City: Berkeley Registrant State/Province: California Registrant Postal Code: 94704 Registrant Country: United States Registrant Phone: Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: email@secureserver.net Registry Admin ID: Admin Name: Edward Holman Admin Organization: Admin Street: 2154 University Ave. Admin City: Berkeley Admin State/Province: California Admin Postal Code: 94704 Admin Country: United States Admin Phone: 510-883-0814 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: 510-217-6857 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: email@eudemonia.net Registry Tech ID: Tech Name: Edward Holman Tech Organization: Tech Street: 2154 University Ave. Tech City: Berkeley Tech State/Province: California Tech Postal Code: 94704 Tech Country: United States Tech Phone: 510-883-0814 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: 510-217-6857 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: email@eudemonia.net Name Server: NS1.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS2.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS3.LINODE.COM Name Server: NS4.LINODE.COM DNSSEC: unsigned URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/ >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-09-21T22:00:00Z <<<
paragondave Member	posted September 21, 2015 09:48 PM I still wish he'd sell the site or at least a managing interest in it so we can update it.
fwybwed Member	posted September 22, 2015 10:37 AM IMO This site got way to cliquee... the only people left are the "ol gang" lol
LandDestroyer Member	posted September 22, 2015 11:41 AM quote: Originally posted by fwybwed: IMO This site got way to cliquee... the only people left are the "ol gang" lol FWIW over 3 dozen new members have registered in September alone. They may not be super active yet but some of them already have refs. When I do deals on the high end group and other places I ask if they are members of MOTL and suggest they become one. There is opportunity for growth if people try and encourage new members to become active imo.
yoriagami Member	posted September 23, 2015 04:39 AM quote: Originally posted by LandDestroyer: When I do deals on the high end group and other places I ask if they are members of MOTL and suggest they become one. Seconded, that's what I do too. And I feel much safer when they know MOTL or, better yet, are already members.
LandDestroyer Member	posted November 13, 2015 02:27 PM Is this horse dead yet? So they renewed the site and we didn't turn into a pumpkin...but I'd still sure like an admin to come back and help get the search engine updated through Battle for zendikar....
hilikuS Member	posted November 13, 2015 03:25 PM quote: Originally posted by fwybwed: IMO This site got way to cliquee... the only people left are the "ol gang" lol I feel that way too, but the trading forum is still pretty hoppin'. It's just here that's that way really.
AEther Storm Member	posted November 15, 2015 11:39 PM The longer it takes for specific functions to be updated, the less popular the sites get. Take the search or trade/match function. Fewer and fewer people will come here because everything is out of date. Does anyone know if paying for this site requires a manual payment, or that the money can be cashed automatically? With regards to building a new site from scratch. Yeah, that one died. __________________ I'm a geek, you're a geek. Let's trade. Lord Flasheart: Enter the man who has no underwear. Ask me why. Lieutenant George: Why do you have no underwear, Lord Flash? Lord Flasheart: Because the pants haven't been built yet that'll take the job on!
revenger Member	posted November 20, 2015 09:25 PM Noble thought nonetheless. __________________ 30th in refs on Motl! #1 Ref's for Arizona! I offer 3rd party trading services. Email if interested. Your 2008, 2010 & 2012 Siskel & Ebert award winner! Your Motl runner-up in My Cousin Vinny & Rolling Stone Award!
ploo Member	posted November 23, 2015 12:22 PM Some of my colleagues and I are in the process of building out a Magic platform that would incorporate trader tools. Since the majority of our group plays and trades A LOT, we figured having our own platform that our local community could use would be great. I wonder if we could incorporate some MOTL into platform - importing data / users / etc., and open it up for public use.
LandDestroyer Member	posted November 23, 2015 02:06 PM quote: Originally posted by ploo: Some of my colleagues and I are in the process of building out a Magic platform that would incorporate trader tools. Since the majority of our group plays and trades A LOT, we figured having our own platform that our local community could use would be great. I wonder if we could incorporate some MOTL into platform - importing data / users / etc., and open it up for public use. Don't get our hopes up. We've been burnt before
ploo Member	posted November 23, 2015 09:55 PM quote: Originally posted by LandDestroyer: Don't get our hopes up. We've been burnt before We have a team of 5 who are working on our platform. If you don't mind, I'd love to pick your brain as to what's needed. Could I find you on Skype?
LandDestroyer Member	posted November 24, 2015 06:45 AM quote: Originally posted by ploo: We have a team of 5 who are working on our platform. If you don't mind, I'd love to pick your brain as to what's needed. Could I find you on Skype? Not until next week at the earliest unfortunately with the holidays. However there is a lot of good information on this thread and I'm sure other members would be able to help as well.

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