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Originally posted by JackSpade:
Can something with protection from green and/or white still be untapped with Finest Hour? Im guessing something like seize the day couldnt be used to target something with protection from red.

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Finest Hour does not target, therefore a creature with pro green or white would still be untapped by its triggered ability. As for the Seize the Day example, all you have to do is ask yourself, "Does this target?" You already answered this in the question you asked ("used to target"). Since Seize the Day targets, it can't be used on a pro red creature. A common mnemonic for remembering what protection grants is DEBT. A creature with protection can't be damaged, enchanted/equipped, blocked, or targeted by sources of the specified color/type.

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Originally posted by iheartp9:
Just a small addition to what pyr0ma5ta said: About the whole protection thing. Protection means a couple of different things, something with protection can't be
1. Blocked
2. Equipped
3. Damaged
4. Enchanged
5. Fortified
6. Targeted.

Since Wrath/Infest doesn't do any of those things your guys with protection from black/white are in trouble from Wrath and Infest. But if you have guys with protection from red for example then a pyroclasm wouldn't do any damage to them. I listed the protection abilities up there in a specific order to make them easier to remember, the first letters have a nice acronym: BE DEFT.

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WTF is fortified?

Also just a note that saying it can't be equipped is redundant, since equipping requires you to target that creature.

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Originally posted by JackSpade:
Can something with protection from green and/or white still be untapped with Finest Hour? Im guessing something like seize the day couldnt be used to target something with protection from red.

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Originally posted by Our_Benefactors:
WTF is fortified?

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Equipment for lands. See Darksteel Garrison.

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Originally posted by Caitiri:
Equipment for lands. See Darksteel Garrison.

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Originally posted by Our_Benefactors:
Gotcha. Another redundancy though since fortify targets, as noted in the reminder text.

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From that point of view enchant is redundant as well, since auras must target when they're played, right? There are ways for equipment to become attached to a creature with protection, or for a creature to gain protection while it is equipped.

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Originally posted by DRAGON31:
just wondering if i cascade into a card like bone splinters or shard volley do i have to pay the additional casting cost anyone know thanks

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Yes, you still have to pay the additional cost. Furthermore, you may pay any optional costs (kicker, buyback, etc.) at the time you play the spell.

Alternative Cost
If an effect requires paying additional costs to play a spell, it still applies to the alternative cost. See rule 409, “Playing Spells and Activated Abilities.”

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Originally posted by jasonM:
I got a question about the enchantment in reborn that gives a bunch of effects if you have a creature with power >5, >10 and >20. Say you have a creature with power of 5, can you let the trigger of the ability stack, then might of oaks the get the effect for power >10 when the ability resolves? thanks guys

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To expand a bit on this, the important aspect here is that there is no 'intervening if clause' in the wording of the card. If the card read "At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control..." then the condition would have to be true both in order for the card to trigger and when the trigger resolves. In this case, however, the ability triggers each upkeep and only checks the condition upon resolution. This allows you to respond to the trigger as you wish.

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Reya's ability triggers at the beginning of the upkeep and if there's no target then it fizzels correct? While Reya's ability is on the stack I can't discard a creature and then return that same creature to play can I? Only if Reya read "return a creature card from your graveyard to play"

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Originally posted by GenghisTom:
at the beginning of the upkeep can a player discard a creature card (of course through the ability of card X) and return that creature to play with Reya?

Reya's ability triggers at the beginning of the upkeep and if there's no target then it fizzels correct? While Reya's ability is on the stack I can't discard a creature and then return that same creature to play can I? Only if Reya read "return a creature card from your graveyard to play"

EDIT: if i recur desolation angel from the graveyard to play can I pay the kicker cost?

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Originally posted by GenghisTom:

EDIT: if i recur desolation angel from the graveyard to play can I pay the kicker cost?

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Only if you're actually playing the Angel, such as with Yawgmoth's Will. If you're simply returning it to play you don't have the option to pay additional costs since you aren't playing it in the first place.

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Originally posted by jasonM:
if i have multiple creatures entering play at the same time, can I sacrifice all of them to blasting station? For example, do the untap abilities stack multiple times and I can sac each creature and untap multiple times?

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EDIT: See iheartP9's answer below. I made an obvious oversight.

-Caitiri

Also...does Finest hour stack if you have two in play? The wording seems kinda wierd...if it does stack...does exalted pump a creature twice if they attack both or triple attack steps?

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If the creatures are entering play at the same time then no, you would not be able to. This would only be possible if you were able to respond between each creature entering play.

-Caitiri

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Originally posted by farsk8dutch:
Wizards updated the Comp. Rules on May 1. Does anyone have a link to the prior one?

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If you ever want to reference older versions, just use the links posted at the start and change the date in the link. Date format is YYMM01, so current is 090501 and the most recent before that was 090201. You might have to walk backwards through the months to find earlier ones.

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Originally posted by Gawain:
Okay. I attack my friend with a 1/1, he blocks with a 1/1 and pumps it with Kithkin Shieldare. I respond by playing Violent Eruption, which he then attempts to counter with a Hindering Light. My goal was to do one damage to the Shieldare, killing it and preventing the buff, and then the other three to him directly, targeting both him AND a creature he controls. The Hindering Light says counter a spell that targets him OR a permanent he controls. How does this resolve? Thanks for any answers guys!

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From Hindering Light's official rulings per the autocard link:

"10/1/2008 Hindering Light can target a spell that has multiple targets, as long as at least one of those targets is you or a permanent you control."

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If a creature has protection from one color, and it blocks another creature of that color that happens to have trample and more power than the first creatures toughness, do the additional points still trample over the first creature?

For example, if a Burrenton Forge-tender blocks a Hellspark Elemental, do 2 points of damage still spill over to the player (assuming the Forge tender isn't sacrificed)?