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Originally posted by Kryne:
Thanks for the previous responses, I now have another dumb question about protection.

If a creature has protection from one color, and it blocks another creature of that color that happens to have trample and more power than the first creatures toughness, do the additional points still trample over the first creature?

For example, if a Burrenton Forge-tender blocks a Hellspark Elemental, do 2 points of damage still spill over to the player (assuming the Forge tender isn't sacrificed)?

Thanks again!

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Yes, the defending player takes two damage. An attacking player only has to assign damage equal to the defending creature's toughness to that creature, and can assign the rest to the defending player.

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Originally posted by counter_spell:
Can you use Minion Reflector ability more than once while the origanal copy is on the stack?

thanks alot

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So say I play Sharuum, is it possible to maybe sacrifice it before its ability resolves? I know you have to do some weird wording when trying to counter Demigod of Revenge... So I was wondering if I can do the same with Sharuum.

Thanks for the response anyone can give me it will help me with my future deck idea. (:

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Originally posted by Rogzor:
I was curious about how abilities on the stack actually work and get interupted and so on.
I have this cardSharuum the Hegemon Its Reads, "When Sharuum The Hegemon Comes into Play, you may return target artifact card from your GY to play.

So say I play Sharuum, is it possible to maybe sacrifice it before its ability resolves? I know you have to do some weird wording when trying to counter Demigod of Revenge... So I was wondering if I can do the same with Sharuum.

Thanks for the response anyone can give me it will help me with my future deck idea. (:

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I have one basic plains, one island, some other lands (set to mountains).

I play Kjeldoran Outpost

Oracle text: If Kjeldoran Outpost would come into play, sacrifice a Plains instead. If you do, put Kjeldoran Outpost into play. If you don't, put it into its owner's graveyard.

Does it come into play as a mountain, or will I be forced into sacrificing my one plains? Alternately, if I'm forced to sacrifice, can I choose not to do so, and just dump the Outpost in the bin? Not sure about the most recent errata on the Outpost, especially as it interacts with a blood moon layered effect.

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Originally posted by Rogzor:
I was curious about how abilities on the stack actually work and get interupted and so on.
I have this cardSharuum the Hegemon Its Reads, "When Sharuum The Hegemon Comes into Play, you may return target artifact card from your GY to play.

So say I play Sharuum, is it possible to maybe sacrifice it before its ability resolves? I know you have to do some weird wording when trying to counter Demigod of Revenge... So I was wondering if I can do the same with Sharuum.

Thanks for the response anyone can give me it will help me with my future deck idea. (:

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I know you can do this if you have 1 Sharuum already in play or in the graveyard when you play the second from you hand. Explanation found on the magic forums:

Step 1: Have your first sac outlet and Sharuum in play (Sharuum can be in the graveyard).
Step 2: Play the second Sharuum.
Step 3: While this is on the stack, if you haven't already, sac the first.
Step 4: The "return" trigger goes on the stack. BEFORE it resolves, sac the Sharuum in play.
Step 5: The return trigger resolves and nets you another Sharuum.
Step 6: Repeat steps 4 and 5.

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Originally posted by Jtrade77:

Does it come into play as a mountain, or will I be forced into sacrificing my one plains? Alternately, if I'm forced to sacrifice, can I choose not to do so, and just dump the Outpost in the bin?

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bloodmoon/magus effect lands that are in play only. THe outpost makes you make the choice before putting it into play so you sac the plains or you dont get your post. If you choose not to sac the plains then you do put the outpost in your gy and it does use up your land drop for the turn.

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Originally posted by cookdizzle:
quick question, can evoke costs of creatures be paid off of ancient ziggurat?

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If a land (for instance, a swamp) is enchanted with fertile ground, can a Reflecting pool tap to add any color to the pool as a result? Or no, because the ability is produced by an enchantment?

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Originally posted by Kryne:
Hey there, another silly question:

If a land (for instance, a swamp) is enchanted with fertile ground, can a Reflecting pool tap to add any color to the pool as a result? Or no, because the ability is produced by an enchantment?

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No, it can't. Fertile Ground's ability is triggered when the land it's enchanting is tapped for mana. It does not affect the type or amount of mana the land itself produces.

Lush Growth, on the other hand, does affect what type of mana the land produces, which will allow Reflecting Pool to make red, white, and green mana, plus any other colored mana it could produce before it was enchanted.

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Originally posted by JoshSherman:
Lush Growth, on the other hand, does affect what type of mana the land produces, which will allow Reflecting Pool to make red, white, and green mana, plus any other colored mana it could produce before it was enchanted.

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Err, can't it only tap for red, white or green?

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Originally posted by Official Rulings:
10/1/2008 The enchanted land loses its existing land types and any abilities printed on it. It now has the ability to tap to add R, G, or W to its controller's mana pool. Lush Growth doesn't change the enchanted land's name or whether it's legendary or basic.

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edit: For clarity, I'm asking if the Pool would be able to tap for the colors of mana that that the land enchanted with a Lush Growth could previously produce, as it seems to me that those aren't able to be produced now, so the Pool should also stop being able to produce those, assuming no other lands could be tapped for black and/or blue.
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I'm on the play and well behind in board position (his Inkwell, Empyrical Archangel to my Plumeveil) and I play Esper Charm, choosing the mode of, "You draw two cards" and he played Swerve, targeting my esper charm and changing the target to himself and drawing two cards.

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Originally posted by m4ster-chef:
Ok... I had this situation arise at FNM last friday. I was playing my 5CC deck against a reanimator that i'd never seen.

I'm on the play and well behind in board position (his Inkwell, Empyrical Archangel to my Plumeveil) and I play Esper Charm, choosing the mode of, "You draw two cards" and he played Swerve, targeting my esper charm and changing the target to himself and drawing two cards.

My question is, since the card doesn't say, "Target player draws two cards", can he legally Swerve that to himself? I mean, I can't choose to let a teammate draw two, so how can he swerve a targetless card to himself?

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He can't. Totally broke the rules.

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Originally posted by m4ster-chef:
It was my fault for not calling. We were trying to hurry up play cause we only had about two minutes left. I WILL be saying something to him because that loss cause me not to top 4.

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If attackers are declared, and a player assigned blockers, can that player then (in response to blocking) play Call to Heel and return the blocking creature that would have otherwise died to his or her hand?

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Originally posted by Kryne:
Another rules question...

If attackers are declared, and a player assigned blockers, can that player then (in response to blocking) play Call to Heel and return the blocking creature that would have otherwise died to his or her hand?

Thanks in advance :-)

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If yes, can someone be so kind as to point me to a rules source explaining why it does work so that I can show my play group as proof?

Thanks,

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Originally posted by evilempire22:
Child of Alara and Prince of Thralls in play. If CoA goes to the graveyard, does the ability on the Prince have a chance to trigger for each permanent that gets destroyed?

If yes, can someone be so kind as to point me to a rules source explaining why it does work so that I can show my play group as proof?

Thanks,

--Evil

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When CoA goes to the graveyard both its ability and PoT's ability trigger. The abilities will go on the stack in APNAP order, meaning that the active player's ability will resolve last. So there are two possibilities here:

1: You are the active player. If you are the active player (ie, it's your turn), CoA's ability will resolve first and all permanents will be destroyed. Then PoT's ability will resolve, and your opponent will have the option to pay 3 life or allow you to put CoA into play under your control.

2: You are not the active player. If you are not the active player (ie, it's your opponent's turn), PoT's ability will resolve first. Your opponent will have the option of paying 3 life or allowing you to put CoA into play under your control. Following this, all permanent's will be destroyed.

-Caitiri

EDIT: Here are the relevant rules.

217.6c If an effect puts two or more objects on the stack at the same time, those controlled by the
active player are put on lowest, followed by each other player’s objects in APNAP order (see
rule 103.4). If a player controls more than one of these objects, that player chooses their relative
order on the stack.

103.4. If multiple players would make choices and/or take actions at the same time, the active player
(the player whose turn it is) makes any choices required, then the next player in turn order (usually
the player seated to the active player’s left) makes any choices required, followed by the remaining
nonactive players in turn order. Then the actions happen simultaneously. This rule is often referred
to as the “Active Player, Nonactive Player (APNAP) order” rule.

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Originally posted by Caitiri:
When CoA goes to the graveyard both its ability and PoT's ability trigger. The abilities will go on the stack in APNAP order, meaning that the active player's ability will resolve last. So there are two possibilities here:

1: You are the active player. If you are the active player (ie, it's your turn), CoA's ability will resolve first and all permanents will be destroyed. Then PoT's ability will resolve, and your opponent will have the option to pay 3 life or allow you to put CoA into play under your control.

2: You are not the active player. If you are not the active player (ie, it's your opponent's turn), PoT's ability will resolve first. Your opponent will have the option of paying 3 life or allowing you to put CoA into play under your control. Following this, all permanent's will be destroyed.

-Caitiri

EDIT: Here are the relevant rules.

217.6c If an effect puts two or more objects on the stack at the same time, those controlled by the
active player are put on lowest, followed by each other player’s objects in APNAP order (see
rule 103.4). If a player controls more than one of these objects, that player chooses their relative
order on the stack.

103.4. If multiple players would make choices and/or take actions at the same time, the active player
(the player whose turn it is) makes any choices required, then the next player in turn order (usually
the player seated to the active player’s left) makes any choices required, followed by the remaining
nonactive players in turn order. Then the actions happen simultaneously. This rule is often referred
to as the “Active Player, Nonactive Player (APNAP) order” rule.

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To clarify, I control both CoA and PoT when CoA kicks the bucket. How does this change things (if at all)?

--Evil