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Topic: The Rulings Thread, part 43 (ALL rules-related questions go HERE!)
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iheartp9 Member
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posted June 19, 2009 05:52 AM
  
You would not survive. Combat damage resolves which sees 2 things happen, the creatures go to the graveyard, causing the shepherd's ability to trigger and you're a 0 or less life, which means you lose the next time state based effects are checked. The triggered ability never has a chance to go on the stack, let alone resolve.
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evilempire22 Member
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posted June 19, 2009 09:09 PM
  
Intimidation BoltIf opponent plays it during my first main phase, and I play a creature with haste after, can I still attack with the new creature? Basically, does the bolt's second sentence apply only to creatures in play at the time it was played? Thanks in advance! --Evil __________________ I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds. Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see. Magic H/W List
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caquaa Member
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posted June 19, 2009 10:51 PM

quote: Originally posted by evilempire22: Intimidation BoltIf opponent plays it during my first main phase, and I play a creature with haste after, can I still attack with the new creature? Basically, does the bolt's second sentence apply only to creatures in play at the time it was played? Thanks in advance! --Evil
Its only an mtgo bug that allows haste creatures to attack after its been played. They're not supposed to be able to. __________________
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If at first you don’t succeed, failure may be your style.
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Sam101 Member
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posted June 20, 2009 11:46 AM
  
My opponent attack me with a 3/3 token and a 3/3 token with life link.I play healing salve, targeting myself choosing to prevent the next three damage dealt to me. What happens? Does my opponent gain the life from the creature with life link?
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iheartp9 Member
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posted June 20, 2009 12:51 PM
  
It depends, if you choose to prevent the lifelink damage then the event never occurs and lifelink doesn't trigger. If you choose to prevent the other damage (or a mix) then they'll gain the appropriate amount of life.
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Sam101 Member
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posted June 20, 2009 03:49 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by iheartp9: It depends, if you choose to prevent the lifelink damage then the event never occurs and lifelink doesn't trigger. If you choose to prevent the other damage (or a mix) then they'll gain the appropriate amount of life.
so I choose which damage healing salve prevents? Sam
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iheartp9 Member
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posted June 20, 2009 06:38 PM
  
Yep
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Keaner Member
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posted June 24, 2009 06:14 AM

Hi, quick question about a possible duels of the planeswalker glitch.Can I user Pariah as a removal spell? ie put it on a fatty of my opponents and take no dmg until he kills his own creature? I had to ask because the way the card is worded on the game, it sounds like I should be able to. But for some reason the dmg doesn't get redirected to my opponent's creature. He attacks with a 3/2 ascetic and a 2/4 giant spider with a pariah attached. I'm taking 5 dmg instead of only 2.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by nderdog on June 24, 2009]
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Meddling Pimp Member
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posted June 24, 2009 06:57 AM

quote: Originally posted by Keaner: Hi, quick question about a possible duels of the planeswalker glitch.Can I user Pariah as a removal spell? ie put it on a fatty of my opponents and take no dmg until he kills his own creature? I had to ask because the way the card is worded on the game, it sounds like I should be able to. But for some reason the dmg doesn't get redirected to my opponent's creature. He attacks with a 3/2 ascetic and a 2/4 giant spider with a pariah attached. I'm taking 5 dmg instead of only 2.
That is definitely a glitch.
quote: Originally posted by The Gatherer rulings: 10/4/2004: You can play this on an opponent's creature, and all damage done to you is instead done to their creature.
EDIT: Oh, and you shouldn't take any damage at all. Pariah redirects all damage you would take. That said, after the first attack, that Giant Spider would be dead.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Meddling Pimp on June 24, 2009]
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Keaner Member
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posted June 24, 2009 07:06 AM

So it would. Very odd. I'm going to have to report this one I think.
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marriedwithchildren Member
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posted June 24, 2009 10:04 PM
  
When do I get my original hand back from Memory Jar? Would I have time to play a Vampiric Tutor at the end of turn step?
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iheartp9 Member
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posted June 25, 2009 08:09 AM
  
Yes you would have time to play vampiric tutor. Memory jar has a delayed trigger that causes you to discard your temporary hand and pick up your old hand. With the trigger on the stack you could play vamp tutor, or if it's in your old hand then once the trigger resolves (assuming it's not stifled) both players will get their old hands back and receive priority, giving you a chance to play vamp tutor then.
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Matt Conroy Member
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posted June 28, 2009 10:44 AM

Can I MM naming Ichorid to prevent my opponent from removing a creature to bring Ichorid back into play?
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Our_Benefactors Member
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posted June 28, 2009 11:01 AM

quote: Originally posted by Matt Conroy: Can I MM naming Ichorid to prevent my opponent from removing a creature to bring Ichorid back into play?
No. They aren't playing Ichorid from the graveyard, they're putting it into play.
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marriedwithchildren Member
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posted June 28, 2009 07:29 PM
  
I open my turn playing a duress. My opponent Forces my duress, then I Mana Drain his Force. I then skipped to my next main phase to get 5 colorless mana. He tells me that because I didn't announce that I was playing duress during my first phase I would have to wait until my next turn to get the mana. I didn't argue with him and won on my next turn but is he right or would I get the mana when I first intended?
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Our_Benefactors Member
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posted June 28, 2009 07:49 PM

quote: Originally posted by marriedwithchildren: I open my turn playing a duress. My opponent Forces my duress, then I Mana Drain his Force. I then skipped to my next main phase to get 5 colorless mana. He tells me that because I didn't announce that I was playing duress during my first phase I would have to wait until my next turn to get the mana. I didn't argue with him and won on my next turn but is he right or would I get the mana when I first intended?
He's wrong and a total douche as well. The attack phase still happens even if there are no creatures on the battlefield (lol battlefield).
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caquaa Member
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posted June 28, 2009 09:05 PM

quote: Originally posted by marriedwithchildren: I open my turn playing a duress. My opponent Forces my duress, then I Mana Drain his Force. I then skipped to my next main phase to get 5 colorless mana. He tells me that because I didn't announce that I was playing duress during my first phase I would have to wait until my next turn to get the mana. I didn't argue with him and won on my next turn but is he right or would I get the mana when I first intended?
unless you specific that you were skipping to your second main then it would be assumed you were in the first main. No judge would rule otherwise unless there is additional missing information. Players dont announce every little thing they do. Its what makes paper magic great, but possible a little vague. There is a standard set to procedures players will use as shortcuts and if someone wants to do something outside the norm then that's when they make those sort of announcements (ie: move to my second main phase, cast duress). __________________
-Caquaa caquaa@yahoo.comBuying MM counterspells for my counterspell collection. Click me! If at first you don’t succeed, failure may be your style.
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Lantis Member
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posted June 29, 2009 03:39 PM
  
Hi, can someone explain this to me. I was at a tournament and someone had a Qasali Pridemage out. That person attempted to sacrifice it to destroy my enchantment. In response, I attempted to terminate it. I was told however, that sacrificing it does not get added to the stack. Why not?
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Our_Benefactors Member
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posted June 29, 2009 04:12 PM

quote: Originally posted by Lantis: Hi, can someone explain this to me. I was at a tournament and someone had a Qasali Pridemage out. That person attempted to sacrifice it to destroy my enchantment. In response, I attempted to terminate it. I was told however, that sacrificing it does not get added to the stack. Why not?
Sacrificing the pridemage is part of the cost for putting the "naturalize" ability on the stack. Basically, anything that happens before the ":" is part of the cost, everything after it is part of the effect.
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caquaa Member
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posted June 29, 2009 04:13 PM

quote: Originally posted by Lantis: Hi, can someone explain this to me. I was at a tournament and someone had a Qasali Pridemage out. That person attempted to sacrifice it to destroy my enchantment. In response, I attempted to terminate it. I was told however, that sacrificing it does not get added to the stack. Why not?
whomever has priority chooses to use pridemage ability. They announce the ability, pay the costs which is 1 + sac, then place the ability on the stack, then they pass priority back. __________________
-Caquaa caquaa@yahoo.comBuying MM counterspells for my counterspell collection. Click me! If at first you don’t succeed, failure may be your style.
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Vegekaan2 New Member
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posted June 30, 2009 08:15 AM

I recently aquired 4 Worldpurge and was just pondering, will it work in sync with Warped Devotion? My first thought was yes, b/c everything is returned at once, putting warped devotion's discard ability on the stack, leaving me with a hand full of 7 and opponents discard whatever they decide to hold....but some of the rules may have changed since I quit, so that's why I'm asking. Also I do know this can be risky with all the graveyard handy cards running around these days, and I prefer t1/extended over t2 if that matters, but mostly casual these days. plz respond, thx!
**edit** Also, anyone in the Moorcroft, Wy area play? if so contact me!!! My wife plays a bit but I played 10 years straight before I quit so I'm lookin for some fun and challenges ^.^
And yes I could totally build a deck around this, I'm just wanting to know if it will work for sure before I waste my time doing so...and yes it would be an annoyance deck ^.^
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Vegekaan2 on July 01, 2009]
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ElvishPiper75 Member
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posted July 02, 2009 06:25 AM

I have Windbrisk Heights, with Rise of the Hobgoblins under it. I attack with 4 creatures, activate Heights. Can I pay X to get X 1/1 Goblin Soldiers??
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MasterWolf Member
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posted July 02, 2009 06:44 AM

I have Darien, King of ....My opponent Lavalanche's for 3. Do I get three tokens? Do they take 3?
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Dumpkin Pumper New Member
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posted July 02, 2009 07:38 AM

I'm sure this question won't be a problem for you guys to answer. Please answer it as the rules apply in M10 too.If I had a 10/10 Skyshroud Behemoth and my opponent was attacking with 9 1/1 elves, could the behemoth block all of them? If not, why?
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Our_Benefactors Member
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posted July 02, 2009 07:39 AM

quote: Originally posted by Dumpkin Pumper: I'm sure this question won't be a problem for you guys to answer. Please answer it as the rules apply in M10 too.If I had a 10/10 Skyshroud Behemoth and my opponent was attacking with 9 1/1 elves, could the behemoth block all of them? If not, why?
You can only block one. That's because creatures can only block one creature.
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