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caquaa
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quote:
Originally posted by Timmyhill:
Does anyone have the size in inches of PSA graded cases? Are they the same size as a top loader? I'm building a custom display and want to make sure I make the shelves long enough.

to display stuff you don't own? I mean... if you're going to get them why not get the PSA cards first?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
Read the description.

Easy for YOU to say.

Can someone tell me exactly why some Portal 3k cards are so freaking expensive? Are they even tournament legal?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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quote:
Originally posted by Jazaray:
Easy for YOU to say.

Can someone tell me exactly why some Portal 3k cards are so freaking expensive? Are they even tournament legal?

Thanks,
Jazaray


They are mostly legal for Legacy and Vintage. THey're expensive because the print run was pretty low, and nobody has them.

Now a question from me:

Would somebody please explain draft pods to me?
While I do have basic knowledge, pretend I have none.

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Mr.C
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quote:
Originally posted by Jazaray:
Easy for YOU to say.

Can someone tell me exactly why some Portal 3k cards are so freaking expensive? Are they even tournament legal?

Thanks,
Jazaray


First question, because people are moron.

Second, yes, in Legacy/Vintage.

 
wayne
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Is anyone able to tell me the weight of a factory sealed set of ROE (redeemed from MTGO)?
 
JesusChristMD
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The fact that they were made legal is what drove so many up in price.

They certainly weren't cheap, but things like loyal retainers and seals were fractions of what they are now.

Decided I want to get a box of Japanese scars, is ebay my best bet for this or should I contact a dealer from the asian regions from MOTL? And yes, I realize presales are not allowed.

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stab107
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quote:
Originally posted by JesusChristMD:
Decided I want to get a box of Japanese scars, is ebay my best bet for this or should I contact a dealer from the asian regions from MOTL? And yes, I realize presales are not allowed.

Not sure if now is the best time to be doing that. The cheapest I can find boxes in my area is 11,000 Yen, or about $130US. Add on probably $35 for shipping and you are looking at one heck of a pricey box. You might be able to drop the price of shipping a bit if you had the seller crack the box and repack the packs in a more common shipping box or something, but I've never tried it so not sure. There might be a couple of more established dealers on MOTL who could find boxes for less then I can (Michael French here in Japan, Magik321 in Singapore).

Your local store should be able to get them through regular distribution, maybe check with them. The price might end up being almost the same and you wouldn't have nearly as much legwork to do on your end.

As an aside, what is the weight of an average booster box? I'm curious to see how much the post office would actually charge to ship it.

edit: also interested to know the weight of this too:

quote:
Originally posted by wayne:
Is anyone able to tell me the weight of a factory sealed set of ROE (redeemed from MTGO)?

Thinking of redeeming if I can ever find a Vengevine...


[Edited 1 times, lastly by stab107 on September 06, 2010]

 
Volcanon
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Dealers can special order foreign language boxes. So you'll pay store prices.

quote:
Originally posted by stab107:
Not sure if now is the best time to be doing that. The cheapest I can find boxes in my area is 11,000 Yen, or about $130US. Add on probably $35 for shipping and you are looking at one heck of a pricey box. You might be able to drop the price of shipping a bit if you had the seller crack the box and repack the packs in a more common shipping box or something, but I've never tried it so not sure. There might be a couple of more established dealers on MOTL who could find boxes for less then I can (Michael French here in Japan, Magik321 in Singapore).

Your local store should be able to get them through regular distribution, maybe check with them. The price might end up being almost the same and you wouldn't have nearly as much legwork to do on your end.

As an aside, what is the weight of an average booster box? I'm curious to see how much the post office would actually charge to ship it.

edit: also interested to know the weight of this too:

Thinking of redeeming if I can ever find a Vengevine...


 
JesusChristMD
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Ya, the store i play at is usually able to get 2 and its ~130 for the box.

Was hoping I could find one for around the same as english ones online are going for (90-100)

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rats60
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quote:
Originally posted by Jazaray:
Easy for YOU to say.

Can someone tell me exactly why some Portal 3k cards are so freaking expensive? Are they even tournament legal?

Thanks,
Jazaray


When they were printed, they weren't tournament legal, so there was little demand. Then when WOTC made Portal legal for Vintage and Legacy, the demand went up and the low supply has caused prices to go high.

 
stu55
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posted September 06, 2010 08:46 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for stu55 Click Here to Email stu55 Send a private message to stu55 Click to send stu55 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
I wonder if the holiday weekend isn't contributing to the Duel Decks not being on the shelves in a lot of places?


any word on these being in wal-mart or target yet?

 
Scopes13mtg
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
any word on these being in wal-mart or target yet?

Not in my local stores as of last night... I'll probably check later on today.

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quote:
Originally posted by Timmyhill:
Does anyone have the size in inches of PSA graded cases? Are they the same size as a top loader? I'm building a custom display and want to make sure I make the shelves long enough.

PSA cases are about 3 3/16" across by 5 5/16" long by about 3/16" thick. BGS cases are about 3 4/16" across by 5 2/16" long by about 5/16" thick.

Quick measurements, hope this helps.

Take it easy,
Jared

 
Timmyhill
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Thanks Thulnanth when its finished I'll post a pic of it.
 
wayne
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Did not bump into a single UW deck in two DEs, awesome!
 
stu55
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Wayne: I think you are addicted, just FYI


On another note, I really hate Pack to Power posts...so many of these recently

 
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
Wayne: I think you are addicted, just FYI


On another note, I really hate Pack to Power posts...so many of these recently


The beauty of a pack to power thing was if it was a non-publicized, yet pre-recorded by video or something.

 
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You know if someone with 100 million dollars suddenly wanted to wreck magic, he probably could by buying up every copy of, say, legacy staples online.

I wonder what WoTC would do then if one ******* just started hoarding all the dual lands for instance and basically made revised ones worth like 500$ because the second one got on the market, he just bought it.

That's going to be one of my projects to make the world worse when I get super rich.

 
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Originally posted by -PoX-:

I wonder what WoTC would do then if one ******* just started hoarding all the dual lands for instance and basically made revised ones worth like 500$ because the second one got on the market, he just bought it.


I think that sort of already happens. I mean, people who have duals are always hesitant to trade them, and even sell them. Cash is always cash, but nobody's going to trade down duals, and some people have no reason to sell them (since they keep increasing in value). So to a lesser extent that happened already. People are already hoarding them. Not sure if one guy could pull everyone off of theirs like that.

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wayne
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
Wayne: I think you are addicted, just FYI


On another note, I really hate Pack to Power posts...so many of these recently



After a week or two of inactivity, I'm just trying to qualify for the Season 8 championship proper and without forgetting the cut-off date.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by -PoX-:
That's going to be one of my projects to make the world worse when I get super rich.

You don't need to be super rich to make the world worse, -PoX-. You're doing a great job as is.

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wayne
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Originally posted by OGB:
You don't need to be super rich to make the world worse, -PoX-. You're doing a great job as is.


Owww.

And I just jinxed myself by posting here, the UW decks are back, heeelp!

 
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I played a friend's Monument Cobra Jund at FNM last friday. Went 5-0 with it. Been playing superfriends/white blue since january and haven't played jund since december. Forgot how potent the deck is.

Thank god it rotates in less than 4 weeks.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:

Would somebody please explain draft pods to me?
While I do have basic knowledge, pretend I have none.

Each drafting group - called a pod - consists of 8 or fewer drafters, although most organizers will try to make each pod as close to 8 as possible. If there are 16 people drafting, two pods of 8 will be created. If there are 20 people drafting, the organizer may choose to make three pods of 6, 6, and 8, rather than 8, 8, and 4.

Drafting with more than 8 people takes away from the possibility of a card coming back as a 9th-15th pick. Drafting with fewer than 5 people means that the card pool tends to be very shallow; there are far fewer copies of all cards going around.

In any case, draft pods aren't normally supposed to exceed 8. After you are finished drafting, you play other people in your same pod. This isn't like football or baseball, where you can play others outside of your group. So, if you're in pod 1, you will play one of the 7 other people in pod 1, but the drafters in pod 2 will play against each other.

Not all TOs are aware of this and I have seen both violations of pod drafting. I drafted a pretty good deck, I thought, only to have it wrecked by a person from another pod who drafted an insane deck because he was in another pod where no one else drafted one color. It was pretty demoralizing, knowing that I didn't see any of the cards from his deck going around, I couldn't hate draft or take advantage of the weaker drafters in his pod.

When Unhinged was first released, the TO at another shop wasn't aware of the limitations on the pod size, so we had something like 14 people - everyone who signed up for the Unhinged draft - all drafting at one table. If you saw a card you liked in a pack, you better pick it now, because it is NOT coming back. I drafted about 40 Unhinged lands (I "land-drafted") - I got 14 lands and one spell drafting to the left, 14 lands and one spell drafting to the right, and 13 lands and two spells drafting to the left again (one of the lands was foil, so someone else drafted it before I could).

The TO made it four rounds, cut to a top 4 where all 4 would play it out in a multiplayer game. I lost every single game (my only win condition was to play Form of the Squirrel and deck my opponent) while my friend got first place in the entire tournament, on the back of Cheatyface + Richard Garfield.

He got some awful prize for first place, something like $10 store credit or 4 packs of Unhinged - something that didn't come close to replacing the tournament entry fee and four hours of playing.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by yakusoku:
When Unhinged was first released, the TO at another shop wasn't aware of the limitations on the pod size, so we had something like 14 people - everyone who signed up for the Unhinged draft - all drafting at one table. If you saw a card you liked in a pack, you better pick it now, because it is NOT coming back. I drafted about 40 Unhinged lands (I "land-drafted") - I got 14 lands and one spell drafting to the left, 14 lands and one spell drafting to the right, and 13 lands and two spells drafting to the left again (one of the lands was foil, so someone else drafted it before I could).

He got some awful prize for first place, something like $10 store credit or 4 packs of Unhinged - something that didn't come close to replacing the tournament entry fee and four hours of playing.


What I want to know is how did 13 other people not know to pick the lands, even as a second/third to last pick?

And it's too bad your friend didn't get compensated for his 4 hours of playing...shame on those that think playing Magic is it's own reward!

 

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