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Mr.C Member	posted December 17, 2011 11:56 PM quote: Originally posted by gaeacradle: Sorry, I should have said that the "something else" is usually $20 or more. And unless all duals are NM, 1 Tropical Island is at least equal to 2 Scrubland. And that doesn't account for the fact that would constitute a trade up for the person getting the Trop. Welcome to trading on MOTL. __________________ #2 in posts from British Columbia! Got any Portuguese Foils? Post on my list or email me at valter.cid@gmail.com !
Bagbokk Member	posted December 18, 2011 12:25 AM quote: Originally posted by gaeacradle: Sorry, I should have said that the "something else" is usually $20 or more. And unless all duals are NM, 1 Tropical Island is at least equal to 2 Scrubland. And that doesn't account for the fact that would constitute a trade up for the person getting the Trop. Hm. Would disagree with your valuations here, so probably why I don't see too much of a problem.
wayne Member	posted December 18, 2011 08:10 AM To be honest, I'd rather have 2x Scrublands rather than a Trop.
gaeacradle Member	posted December 18, 2011 08:23 AM Even if you consider 2 Scrubland is fair for the 1 Trop, the other person is still asking for something else that is at least $20.
AGO Member	posted December 18, 2011 11:36 AM Alex is a cheat and now Edgar Flores! Watch him play first drop an island. Then next turn fan his cards and has 7 in hand. WTF no wonder I dont place worth a crap in major tournaments. You have to cheat to make it to the top. http://blip.tv/scglive/scgkc-leg-rd3-edgar-flores-vs-jordan-zona-5701810
Animosity Member	posted December 18, 2011 12:36 PM quote: Originally posted by AGO: Alex is a cheat and now Edgar Flores! Watch him play first drop an island. Then next turn fan his cards and has 7 in hand. WTF no wonder I dont place worth a crap in major tournaments. You have to cheat to make it to the top. http://blip.tv/scglive/scgkc-leg-rd3-edgar-flores-vs-jordan-zona-5701810 Guy was banned in yugioh for cheating and I saw him hanging with alex at a 5k . Seems like there are both members of the if you aint cheating you aint trying philosophy.
choco man Member	posted December 18, 2011 02:54 PM quote: Originally posted by Animosity: Guy was banned in yugioh for cheating and I saw him hanging with alex at a 5k . Seems like there are both members of the if you aint cheating you aint trying philosophy. Where's Thanos to the rescue and say: quote: Originally posted by Thanos: ** him. Move on.**
Thanos Member	posted December 18, 2011 03:42 PM **** him too, move on. Also... I'm tired of seeing "I'll trade up but not down" on everyone's have want list. The phrase trading up/ down has been bastardized. Trading same format for same format is even trading. Trading type 1 for standard is trading down. Trading duals for duals is even trading, and so on. God damn kids... [Edited 1 times, lastly by Thanos on December 18, 2011]
MeddlingMage Member	posted December 18, 2011 04:44 PM quote: Originally posted by Thanos: ** him too, move on. Also... I'm tired of seeing "I'll trade up but not down" on everyone's have want list. The phrase trading up/ down has been bastardized. Trading same format for same format is even trading. Trading type 1 for standard is trading down. Trading duals for duals is even trading, and so on. God damn kids... I'd like to add that trading same format can still be trading down if it's a 50 dollar card for 5, 10 dollar cards or a pile of 5 dollar cards etc... ~MM __________________ I am MeddlingMage...YOUR Motl Survivor 11 Champion, 2007 Captain N award winner, 2010 Marlboro award winner, and 2011 Champion Tournament Pick'em MOTL NCAA Bracket Challenge winner! CM Punk "OMG Kevin Nash WTF, thought he was dead, LOL"** New keeper of the Logout button
Lord Crovax Member	posted December 18, 2011 04:49 PM quote: Originally posted by Thanos: ** him too, move on. Also... I'm tired of seeing "I'll trade up but not down" on everyone's have want list. The phrase trading up/ down has been bastardized. Trading same format for same format is even trading. Trading type 1 for standard is trading down. Trading duals for duals is even trading, and so on. God damn kids...** Amen to this, and to hell with people who think because you have common/uncommons on your list that its ok to offer those for 30+ dollar cards...really getting tired of this one...that and SCG prices.... __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
hilikuS Member	posted December 19, 2011 06:27 AM quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: SCG prices.... Yeah, seriously with this... give up the SCG prices people!
Lord Crovax Member	posted December 19, 2011 09:55 AM quote: Originally posted by hilikuS: Yeah, seriously with this... give up the SCG prices people! I love when you put in your rules no SCG, then you get "I used SCG prices for this trade"..... and the trades are always horrid... __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
hilikuS Member	posted December 19, 2011 10:19 AM quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: I love when you put in your rules no SCG, then you get "I used SCG prices for this trade"..... and the trades are always horrid... Yeah I hate it. It's gospel around here locally too, and it's just annoying. I think that has to be pretty much the highest possible price on a card you can find.
Lord Crovax Member	posted December 19, 2011 10:34 AM quote: Originally posted by hilikuS: Yeah I hate it. It's gospel around here locally too, and it's just annoying. I think that has to be pretty much the highest possible price on a card you can find. ABU is worse, about 10-20% higher on average....its what people use around where I am... __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
hilikuS Member	posted December 19, 2011 11:27 AM quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: ABU is worse, about 10-20% higher on average....its what people use around where I am... Yuck. I come in with traders prices and people look at me like I'm stupid. I used to argue like, no the card is worth this, not this + markup. People are like, yeah but those are dealer buy prices, you got lucky, that's not what the card is worth etc. So I settled on "Well I can get them at x all day." Usually followed by, "I have a bunch at that price if you want them, then you can make the difference in profit. Since that's what the card is worth, should be able to unload it sooper fast!" I guess I've just been using the site/ebay for so long that I'm used to it, and everything else seems silly. Like, someone told me it was really hard to do things on here too. Like, yeah Bill but you have the feedback so you don't get rolled. I dunno it's weird. I've learned to just go with the flow and add things up in my head at what they're worth. If the deal suits them with whatever they wanna use, then it's cool. Otherwise I pass. [Edited 1 times, lastly by hilikuS on December 19, 2011]
choco man Member	posted December 19, 2011 12:56 PM As long as the values match up in my mind, it doesn't matter what guide gets used. It sure does make it more difficult though. Lately, I've been making trade offers on Liliana of the Veil for ~$25 (with Snapcaster and such) and they're classified as "dumb offers."
Speed Demon Banned	posted December 19, 2011 01:11 PM quote: Originally posted by gaeacradle: Sorry, I should have said that the "something else" is usually $20 or more. And unless all duals are NM, 1 Tropical Island is at least equal to 2 Scrubland. And that doesn't account for the fact that would constitute a trade up for the person getting the Trop. Scrubland (RV), 42.80, 10.52, 42.97, 50.00, 31.00, 0.88, 34 Tropical Island (RV), 71.54, 9.51, 73.01, 102.50, 61.11, 0.40, 34 Comments?
Lord Crovax Member	posted December 19, 2011 02:02 PM quote: Originally posted by choco man: As long as the values match up in my mind, it doesn't matter what guide gets used. It sure does make it more difficult though. Lately, I've been making trade offers on Liliana of the Veil for ~$25 (with Snapcaster and such) and they're classified as "dumb offers." Yea, I've been getting that to, then again alot of people are trying to put her at 30-40 still... My worst offender is Inkmoth, I'm geting quotes if 18-20, next up is Jace, memory adept at 20-25... __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
Tha Gunslinga Moderator	posted December 19, 2011 02:31 PM I just say "this is my offer, you can take it or leave it."
rockondon Member	posted December 19, 2011 06:01 PM Liliana certainly seems to be falling from grace. I just bought a playset off ebay for a hundred bucks which looks like to be pretty typical for her lately. She should make a nice addition to my solar flare deck. __________________ \|My Angels~My P9 l""\|"\__, \|~~My #1 Angel~~l'_\|'_\|_\|) \|(@)(@)""*\|(@)(@)\|(@)
wayne Member	posted December 19, 2011 06:25 PM quote: Originally posted by rockondon: Liliana certainly seems to be falling from grace. I just bought a playset off ebay for a hundred bucks which looks like to be pretty typical for her lately. She should make a nice addition to my solar flare deck. Probably because Solar Flare has not been doing well.
Lord Crovax Member	posted December 19, 2011 07:36 PM quote: Originally posted by wayne: Probably because Solar Flare has not been doing well. Which is funny cause she still sees play as a 2-4 of in anything with black.... I'm not really sure why she is dropping tbh... __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
hilikuS Member	posted December 19, 2011 08:23 PM quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: Which is funny cause she still sees play as a 2-4 of in anything with black.... I'm not really sure why she is dropping tbh... I would assume increased supply.
Bagbokk Member	posted December 19, 2011 08:39 PM quote: Originally posted by hilikuS: I would assume increased supply. It'd logically have to be decreased demand, but I'm just picking at random details...
wayne Member	posted December 19, 2011 11:08 PM quote: Originally posted by Bagbokk: It'd logically have to be decreased demand, but I'm just picking at random details... Probably both, either increased supply or decreased demand are enough on their own to result in a price decrease.

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