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Topic: Post For Magic Stuff, Part 64.
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Volcanon Member
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posted December 06, 2011 08:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by AlmostGrown: I really hate when people list cards that are "decked". Then they only ask for people to heavily trade down if you want the cards that are listed as decked, and their wants are really minor.
More like: Wants: Xx Revised duals Xx Mox Ruby Xx Tabernacle Haves: 1x Tezzeret <- Decked 1x Putrid Imp 1x Werebear 1x Basking Rootwalla EX- 1x Iron Myr
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Lord Crovax Member
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posted December 06, 2011 08:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Volcanon: More like:Wants: Xx Revised duals Xx Mox Ruby Xx Tabernacle Haves: 1x Tezzeret <- Decked 1x Putrid Imp 1x Werebear 1x Basking Rootwalla EX- 1x Iron Myr
Only way that could be better is if they had their wants as. Low Value (Will trad for but don't value highly) xX Duals xX Power __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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choco man Member
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posted December 06, 2011 09:00 PM
You can make a fair offer on someone's decked cards, it's up to them to accept or not. I certainly don't automatically trade/offer more just because someone randomly wants more. Putting "decked" or "very hard to get" is just a waste of time. But there are many things worse.A MOTL'er had a points system with his Wasteland being more than my 3 Snapcaster Mage. I posted just to know exactly why? Here's what I got:
quote: Originally posted by matt42: Strange times for blue in Legacy... let me think about this one. I suspect he and Delver might get the axe, whereas Wasteland almost certainly won't. The only other deck I play SCM in is my fun deck, which I don't mind if he's a proxy. Hrm. I'll let you know in a bit; thanks for the post! -Matt
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Tha Gunslinga Moderator
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posted December 06, 2011 09:04 PM
Yes, clearly Delver will be banned, right after Island and Force of Will.__________________ Looking for misprinted Commander decks. Got one? Talk to me.
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Lord Crovax Member
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posted December 06, 2011 09:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga: Yes, clearly Delver will be banned, right after Island and Force of Will.
Oh come on we know the next ban will be Delver and Wild Nactal, cause they hammper great creatures like Raging Goblin from seeing play. Though I love how he tries to rationalize his values on bans that may or may not happen... __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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wayne Member
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posted December 06, 2011 11:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: Only way that could be better is if they had their wants as.Low Value (Will trad for but don't value highly) xX Duals xX Power
Someone point me in the right direction, I have a bunch of duals to trade away at 50% of their value (hope it is low enough for them) to satisfy the needs of such exalted traders.
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caquaa Member
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posted December 07, 2011 01:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by wayne:
Someone point me in the right direction, I have a bunch of duals to trade away at 50% of their value (hope it is low enough for them) to satisfy the needs of such exalted traders.
I typically don't make H/W lists, but for you I'll make an exception
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Lord Crovax Member
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posted December 07, 2011 01:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by wayne:
Someone point me in the right direction, I have a bunch of duals to trade away at 50% of their value (hope it is low enough for them) to satisfy the needs of such exalted traders.
I'm not very good at this, but is this the point i'd go Salvation NOOOOO!!!???? __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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harbingerofthevoid Member
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posted December 07, 2011 02:48 PM
ugh.Once again. Yes, Replenish is Legacy legal and it doesn't matter if you counter [insert any enchantment]. If I have Argo/Presence in play, I still draw. And such were 9 out 10 of my games. __________________ NEQUAQUAM VACUUM My girlfriend does good work Give me your Sleight of Minds M:tG set printing and spreadsheet utility
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WeedIan Member
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posted December 07, 2011 05:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid: ugh.Once again. Yes, Replenish is Legacy legal and it doesn't matter if you counter [insert any enchantment]. If I have Argo/Presence in play, I still draw. And such were 9 out 10 of my games.
LOL people don't understand the fact that cast of the spell causes the ability to trigger.
__________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 11000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 13th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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Irate Member
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posted December 07, 2011 07:28 PM
^ Oh really?I've played my enchantress deck with if it gets countered, it doesn't get played so I don't draw. Also thinking of quitting MTG for good. I'm just not interested in keeping up with new sets, trading online (still got one trade I'm waiting for almost 3 weeks later). I do like this forum though lol.
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Heresy19 Member
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posted December 07, 2011 08:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Irate: ^ Oh really?
Yup because it's not specified ''succesfully cast''
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Volcanon Member
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posted December 07, 2011 08:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: Yup because it's not specified ''succesfully cast''
Oracle text: "Whenever you cast an enchantment spell, draw a card."
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choco man Member
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posted December 07, 2011 08:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: Only way that could be better is if they had their wants as.Low Value (Will trad for but don't value highly) xX Duals xX Power
Always awesome when a poster has that on their h/w list. It's normally accompanied with the following rules: 1. I will not trade down EVER. 2. If you don't know what trading down is, pay attention. B/c that's what I expect everyone else to do for me. 3. I will gladly trade up ALWAYS.
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Lord Crovax Member
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posted December 07, 2011 08:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by choco man: Always awesome when a poster has that on their h/w list.It's normally accompanied with the following rules: 1. I will not trade down EVER. 2. If you don't know what trading down is, pay attention. B/c that's what I expect everyone else to do for me. 3. I will gladly trade up ALWAYS.
Yup,got to love those...they also usually have less then 10 refs and expect everyone to always send first... __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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harbingerofthevoid Member
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posted December 08, 2011 05:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: Yup,got to love those...they also usually have less then 10 refs and expect everyone to always send first...
The new one looks to be people giving a percentage of how much they will trade up. By their math my $20 card should get me $22 worth of their stuff. But, even when you want two of their $11 cards, they refuse. God forbid if you try to squeeze 4-5 cards worth $23 total out of them. Back on Enchantress. Had Sigil and two Presence in play. They countered Choke I drew two and made and angel and they flipped out. So in response to the counter, I Temporal Isolation their Goyf. Drew two more and another angel. They quit. *sigh __________________ NEQUAQUAM VACUUM My girlfriend does good work Give me your Sleight of Minds M:tG set printing and spreadsheet utility
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Devonin Member
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posted December 08, 2011 07:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid: The new one looks to be people giving a percentage of how much they will trade up. By their math my $20 card should get me $22 worth of their stuff. But, even when you want two of their $11 cards, they refuse. God forbid if you try to squeeze 4-5 cards worth $23 total out of them.
I'm looking to trade up into stuff and my percentage is 20-25% in people's favour, and if they want 50 cards for 1 card I want, I'm happy to do it. Not everybody trading up is doing it to increase the value of their collection, some of us are just trying to consolodate our giant pile of cards, and get a few cards we can use for EDH :P
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Scopes13mtg Member
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posted December 08, 2011 05:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: Yup because it's not specified ''succesfully cast''
And as far as I know, all cards that used to say "successfully cast" had that removed.
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nderdog Moderator
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posted December 08, 2011 05:43 PM
Has anyone else been able to access the current competitive PWP standings in the past day or so? I keep getting an error, but I'm not sure if it's my browser of the site that's broken.__________________ There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!All your Gruul Nodorogs are belong to me. Trade them to me, please! Report rules violations. Remember the Auctions Board!
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WeedIan Member
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posted December 08, 2011 07:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Devonin: I'm looking to trade up into stuff and my percentage is 20-25% in people's favour, and if they want 50 cards for 1 card I want, I'm happy to do it. Not everybody trading up is doing it to increase the value of their collection, some of us are just trying to consolodate our giant pile of cards, and get a few cards we can use for EDH :P
I would like to trade things down. But most people value things at SCG
__________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 11000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 13th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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caquaa Member
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posted December 08, 2011 08:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by nderdog: Has anyone else been able to access the current competitive PWP standings in the past day or so? I keep getting an error, but I'm not sure if it's my browser of the site that's broken.
everything seems fine for me
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Devonin Member
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posted December 08, 2011 09:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: I would like to trade things down. But most people value things at SCG
I check on Apathyhouse/SCG/eBay to basically make sure I'm not letting myself get seriously ripped off or seriously ripping someone off, but beyond that, I'd rather have 3 5 dollar cards I actually play with than one 25 dollar card I don't
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nderdog Moderator
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posted December 08, 2011 10:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by caquaa: everything seems fine for me
Really? I've now tried on 3 different computers, 3 different browsers, and not one of them works. I can get everything else, but not the competitive points for the current season to see where I am for a bye at GP Seattle. __________________ There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!All your Gruul Nodorogs are belong to me. Trade them to me, please! Report rules violations. Remember the Auctions Board!
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choco man Member
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posted December 08, 2011 10:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by Devonin: I check on Apathyhouse/SCG/eBay to basically make sure I'm not letting myself get seriously ripped off or seriously ripping someone off, but beyond that, I'd rather have 3 5 dollar cards I actually play with than one 25 dollar card I don't
I've posted on lists before and posted that I have 70-80% of their wants, willing to give a premium for trading into a bigger card. More often than not, I'm turned down. Even though I have most of their list and want to give a premium, some MOTL'ers are just too concerned with "not trading down" or potentially "losing in a trade" for their own gosh darn good. It's really too bad...for them. Most of the time they have only that ONE good card sitting on their lists anyways and they end up spending a ton in postage.
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Devonin Member
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posted December 09, 2011 10:00 AM
That's why I almost never offer trades where I'm trying ot trade up no matter what premium I offer. I expect to be shot down. Better to just post that I'm trying to trade up, and what premium I'm willing to give. There are enough set collectors and cube builders around that I'll get a bite or two every now and then, which is all I really want anyway.
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