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Topic: The post for Magic Stuff part 70: Gettin' old, aren't we?
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harbingerofthevoid Member
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posted May 08, 2012 04:32 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by junichi: +1. Got owned by that in an EDH game. Thought I had the game, then out of no where, my entire deck is exiled.
Playing vs. RU Delver. He had Guide and Lavamancer in play. Leyline was already out. I was at 7, played Helm with 1 open plains left. In response he Price of Progress me for 6. I activate Helm: THEM exiles Delver of Secrets from the top of his library. ME: whole deck THEM: reading i just discard a card and was a creature ME: no. leyline prevents the cards from ever touching the graveyard, there fore the condition can never be met thus milling the whole deck THEM: boring deck THEM has lost connection to the game.
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flophaus Member
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posted May 08, 2012 05:06 PM

That's one of the sickest combos I've heard about in a long while!Awesome! Can't wait to try this on my wife =)
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Thanos Member
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posted May 08, 2012 05:11 PM

quote: Originally posted by flophaus:
Awesome! Can't wait to try this on my wife =)
Lol.
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skizzikmonger Member
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posted May 08, 2012 05:14 PM

AVR Event Decks have been spoiled. Zombies isn't bad, UW is eh except for the Metamorph and Mirran Crusader.
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junichi Moderator
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posted May 08, 2012 05:15 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by flophaus: That's one of the sickest combos I've heard about in a long while!Awesome! Can't wait to try this on my wife =)
I hope you have a comfy couch. __________________ MOTL Fantasy NBA 2010 ChampionYou know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help.
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wayne Member
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posted May 09, 2012 05:27 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by junichi: I hope you have a comfy couch.
And lube.
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harbingerofthevoid Member
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posted May 09, 2012 05:52 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by junichi: I hope you have a comfy couch.
If not, y'all can borrow mine but, there's a catch.
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TimeBeing Member
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posted May 09, 2012 10:03 AM

So much for oversized cards not being worth much.http://www.ebay.com/itm/Foil-Oversized-Avacyn-Angel-of-Hope-Helvault-Promo-MTG-/251054559640?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a74049198#ht_500wt_1156
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Aznopium Member
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posted May 09, 2012 10:22 AM
  
well it's a foil one.  regs can be had for a lot less 
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yakusoku Member
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posted May 09, 2012 11:36 AM

Two friends and I played in a very small Standard tournament last night. I helped playtest and build both of their decks before the tournament. During the tournament, I faced them both and beat both of them 2-0. I was playing Wolf Run Ramp with Batterskull maindeck, which was instrumental to beating my friend who played RDW (along with Huntmaster and Glimmerpost to gain me tons of life against aggro decks). At one point, his Shrine had 19 counters on it, and he still couldn't deal enough damage to counteract a Primeval Titan equipped with Batterskull; I was at 32 life. My other friend raged at me all night long because he played a variant of Frites and I specifically had Surgical Extraction in the sideboard JUST FOR HIM - there weren't that many players and I put my odds at even that I would play him at some point. Game one, I just get a better draw than him, get a turn 4 Primeval Titan and win. Game two, I bring in a few Surgical Extractions and he manages to get me low before I Slagstorm all his creatures away, I tap out to cast something, then he goes to flashback Unburial Rites. In response, I Surgical Extraction his target and nab all 4 copies in the deck/hand/graveyard. He's livid, to the point where he vocally admonishes himself to make sure he doesn't get a punishment for unsportsmanlike conduct. He rages that I had NO business playing that card, it's narrow, unplayed in WRR, and only in there for his deck. I agreed to all those points, but he was playing an all or nothing deck plan, too, so I sideboarded accordingly to punish that plan. His game plan against most decks is to play mana guys, play Blade Splicer and Huntmaster and win, and play Unburial Rites on Angel of Glory's Rise if they get swept by Slagstorm (which I did) or some other sweeper. What frustrates him more than anything else, though, is that he believes that he is a stronger player than I am, can outplay me most of the time, and if he plays tight, with no mistakes, he can simply see the right sequence of plays that leads to a win. However, he said that even if he absolutely, 100% knew that I had Surgical Extraction in my hand, there was literally *nothing* he could do to play around that card, while still trying to win. His only choice at the point was to try to race me, but Surgical Extraction ruined those plans. In the last round, I faced another RDW deck. Vexing Devil is NOT that good in Standard RDW. If he played it turns 1-3, I always took 4 damage. If he played it later than that, I usually let it resolve, and trumped it with Slagstorm and bigger creatures than a 4/3. I'm glad I was able to sell mine for $12 cash before it proves to not be a Standard powerhouse and its price tanks.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by yakusoku on May 09, 2012]
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WeedIan Member
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posted May 09, 2012 11:55 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by bstrom213: Needle stops wasteland, port and everything else relevant that revoker stops. I never want to have to tutor for a revoker and the revoker is a creature. If hardcast, two is a lot more than one. Anyway, this debate is moot since I don't have any recruiters
Revoker still fits the deck better than pithing needle. You keep saying you want to play a deck if you had the cards but you argue any good point. Sure stoppng wasteland/port is good but pithing needle isn't as great when you can't tutor for it. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 11th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
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bstrom213 Banned
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posted May 09, 2012 12:15 PM

quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: Revoker still fits the deck better than pithing needle. You keep saying you want to play a deck if you had the cards but you argue any good point. Sure stoppng wasteland/port is good but pithing needle isn't as great when you can't tutor for it.
In theory, it seems to fit, so I am not going to criticize, but before you decide your points are "good", play the deck with the cards you suggested. If you haven't, just keep it at a suggestion and don't add the "good" in front of it
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harbingerofthevoid Member
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posted May 09, 2012 12:18 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: ...he believes that he is a stronger player than I am, can outplay me most of the time, and if he plays tight, with no mistakes, he can simply see the right sequence of plays that leads to a win.
Does he always say stuff like that? Funny part is you said you helped them with the decks and then he got mad when you side boarded in hate. and quote: "...unplayed in WRR..."
Maybe but, it's free so it doesn't necessarily not belong in there. Sounds just like a poor sport.
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MagicPatty Member
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posted May 09, 2012 12:20 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by wayne:
And lube.
hehe... score one for Wayne
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Kyosukee Member
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posted May 09, 2012 12:31 PM

quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: Entertaining story
It's a bit rough that there's so few players in your playgroup that you played him, but I'd say it could be seen as a compliment. You gave up 4 sideboard slots almost specifically for him, which is more than I would my friends if I knew I had to play them. edit: He shoulda ran the misstep. lololol (that's not banned in standard, right?)
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Kyosukee on May 09, 2012]
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yakusoku Member
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posted May 09, 2012 03:11 PM

quote: Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid: Does he always say stuff like that?
Yep. At the last FNM, he was watching my matches and complaining that I was playing really sloppy - at one point, I played two spells to transform Ravager, which was the wrong move, but I wanted the two life cushion as I was racing an aggro deck. I just dismissed most of what he said - he went 0-2 drop and I went 3-0-1. Last night, he won his first match and lost the next two; I didn't lose a single game all night long. A long time ago, we used to play Texas Hold 'em poker and he'd get SO frustrated playing against me, not because I won more than he did, but because the way in which I won wasn't correct in his mind. One on one, he'd beat me more often than he'd lose, but he hated the fact that often he would read what I had perfectly, call or raise my bets "perfectly", and still lose to an unlikely draw. Something like: His hand: ASKD My hand: 7H8H He bets double the pot pre-flop, I call. AH, QH, 10D flops. He bets, I call (I'm on a flush draw), turn comes 6C (still on a flush draw, plush an inside straight draw - I have 12 outs). He bets, I call, river comes 4H. He bets to me, I raise, and he says, "I KNOW you have two hearts. Why would you call pre-flop AND after the flop on a draw? I bet the proper amount that *should* scare you off, especially since I KNOW you can do the math in your head; I probably have an ace, a queen, or a more likely straight draw than you. You're two to one to draw a flush, and even less after the turn, and I way outbet those odds, and you still called on the basis that you 'felt lucky'. {non-family friendly banter here}... and your mother, too! I'm gonna call, just to confirm my suspicions that you're a lucky idiot who had NO BUSINESS being in the hand this far." {he calls, I show my hand} "You're SUCH a bad poker player! Why... just, WHY?! Why don't you give me any respect for having a hand, especially when I HAVE a hand that smashes yours? I had top pair AND a nut straight draw." quote:
Funny part is you said you helped them with the decks and then he got mad when you side boarded in hate.
But, he playtested online and nobody runs Surgical Extraction in their sideboard. So, I shouldn't be, either. quote: Kyosukee:
It's a bit rough that there's so few players in your playgroup that you played him, but I'd say it could be seen as a compliment. You gave up 4 sideboard slots almost specifically for him, which is more than I would my friends if I knew I had to play them.
AVR recently came out, so everyone wants to draft, not play Standard. Usually there's far more people playing constructed formats. One of our other friends who drafted instead of playing Standard made the same comment that if his deck folds to one card, maybe he should have a better defense, like Mental Misstep, which is NOT banned in Standard; it doesn't answer the format very well. It can counter Delver, Champion of the Parish, Vapor Snag, and a bunch of one-drops in RDW or Zombies, but against Wolf Ramp, it's dead, and against most decks, it's not nearly as potent as running Mana Leak main and Negate in the sideboard. On the ride home, he vented that he was largely upset because he was expecting Nihil Spellbomb, but didn't expect Surgical Extraction. I told him that it's simply a matter of practicality - I own three Surgical Extractions, but I don't own any Nihil Spellbombs.
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flophaus Member
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posted May 09, 2012 05:54 PM

quote: Originally posted by wayne:
And lube.
Well, when I do bust that combo out, it will, unfortunately, probably be ME that needs the lube 
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AlmostGrown Member
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posted May 09, 2012 07:56 PM
  
Yak, your friend sounds like a real jerk. How do you put up with such a sore loser? ...
Oh yeah, I remember your stories from work now 
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Sovarius Member
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posted May 10, 2012 08:45 AM
  
If your deck can't win without tokens, would you counter ratchet bomb with Stony Silence or saving counterspells?__________________ Looking to buy any Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief oddities/pimp.My sales
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junichi Moderator
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posted May 10, 2012 10:02 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by Sovarius: If your deck can't win without tokens, would you counter ratchet bomb with Stony Silence or saving counterspells?
This is not even close. Stony Silence. __________________ MOTL Fantasy NBA 2010 ChampionYou know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help.
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WeedIan Member
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posted May 10, 2012 11:41 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by junichi: This is not even close. Stony Silence.
+1 for this. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 11th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
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TimeBeing Member
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posted May 10, 2012 12:51 PM

Completely random Question.Anyone know what the original art or the sketchs for Descendants' Path sold for? It's not on her Webpage anymore but she did say it was for sale, so I'm guessing it sold. http://www.tnielsen.com/Home_Page.html
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thror Member
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posted May 10, 2012 01:53 PM
  
i am 100% certain descendants path already sold. there was a lot of interest in it.__________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."[16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
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Sovarius Member
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posted May 10, 2012 02:51 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by junichi: This is not even close. Stony Silence.
I just thinkin, i'm running counterspells anyway, which can hit most things, and not everyone runs Bombs in the board, so that leaves some room in my board. Silence can be destroyed, counters will probably just happen and be done. 'Nother question about spirits. Is Day of Judgment ever a good sideboard choice? Between the Lingering Souls and Snaps flashing crap back, i could recover? But whatever i was looking at for tourney results, none of the token variants played it. __________________ Looking to buy any Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief oddities/pimp.My sales
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Omega Member
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posted May 11, 2012 10:48 AM

Im close to selling all my collection (yea, tried to sell individually, but just too much work)Does anyone know of people here on MOTL who has the reputation of buying collections? I've contacted a bunch of stores (local stores mainly, and also SCG) and received plenty of offers Robert
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