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Lord Crovax
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Gruul Charm if real looks to be very very meh

Flying creatures your opp controls can't block, 3 damage to each flying creature, gain control of creatures you own.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Gruul Charm if real looks to be very very meh

Flying creatures your opp controls can't block, 3 damage to each flying creature, gain control of creatures you own.


It's a triple cocktail of situational solutions! Saves eight sideboard slots in the case that all three such times are relevant!

3 damage to each flyer is pretty good though. A lot of RTR flyers have small butts.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Gruul Charm if real looks to be very very meh

Flying creatures your opp controls can't block, 3 damage to each flying creature, gain control of creatures you own.


Yeah extremely mediocre, which is a shame. At least Rakdos had clear sideboard applications in modern.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
Hallowed Burial and Supreme Verdict might be better than wrath/rout


Hallowed Burial is exactly what I'm looking for. Supreme Verdict is also excellent - I was waiting for the price to go down a bit but it looks like it's only a few bucks now. Revenger, thanks for the Akroma's Vengence idea.

 
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So Foil Jace TMS seems to be hitting 500+ now...lol

Also Aura.dec won a Standard GP

EDIT: Blind Obedience is bonkers, easily a 10$+ card and 4 of staple in anything W/X control....

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by Lord Crovax on January 13, 2013]

 
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Blind Obedience really should have had a B in it's casting cost
 
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I think Blind Obedience is getting overhyped. Sure, hype alone can drive that sucker up to ten bucks, but I just don't see it somehow making the sphere of safety.dec somehow not trash.
 
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anyone know a site that buys bulk rares at a good price?

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When I first started playing in Prague I noticed that, mainly due to cost, players here would normally have a standard deck, an extended deck and then random cards for trade.

Players with a bit more discretionary income might have another standard or extended deck, perhaps a well-tuned powerhouse legacy deck, but very few players hoover up cards to build anything they wanted the way I remember myself and most other players I knew doing back in the US.

With all the price spikes and price volatility these days, when it feels like I'm missing the boat on so many interesting cards I understand more and more why Czechs typically concentrate on just a few decks.

This article by Chas Andres: http://www.starcitygames.com/article/25324_World-War-M.html only serves to fuel my general perception that the days of being able to wait and affordably pick up cards post-rotation or before they gain traction in older formats are over. To be sure my original thesis is not in alignment with an article on counterfeiting and collapsing price bubbles, though it deflates me nonetheless.

And you lot? What do think about these new days where the strangest of things you were looking to obtain 'eventually for a fun deck' shoots out of nowhere and becomes unappealing in price?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
So Foil Jace TMS seems to be hitting 500+ now...lol


That didn't stop someone from posting a buy today for 350.00. lol.

 
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Found a babysitter for tonight, which means I get to go play Magic! Woot!
 
Zeckk
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quote:
Originally posted by keywacat:
When I first started playing in Prague I noticed that, mainly due to cost, players here would normally have a standard deck, an extended deck and then random cards for trade.

Players with a bit more discretionary income might have another standard or extended deck, perhaps a well-tuned powerhouse legacy deck, but very few players hoover up cards to build anything they wanted the way I remember myself and most other players I knew doing back in the US.

With all the price spikes and price volatility these days, when it feels like I'm missing the boat on so many interesting cards I understand more and more why Czechs typically concentrate on just a few decks.

This article by Chas Andres: http://www.starcitygames.com/article/25324_World-War-M.html only serves to fuel my general perception that the days of being able to wait and affordably pick up cards post-rotation or before they gain traction in older formats are over. To be sure my original thesis is not in alignment with an article on counterfeiting and collapsing price bubbles, though it deflates me nonetheless.

And you lot? What do think about these new days where the strangest of things you were looking to obtain 'eventually for a fun deck' shoots out of nowhere and becomes unappealing in price?


I don't think it really happens that often - it's more a confirmation bias as a result of players being more aware of the metagame than they were before. What DOES bug me is the inconsistency of price decay for cards that have fallen out of favor.

It's not impossible to get in on a card before it blows up, but the waiting after the hype hits a card price is unbelievably long now.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
I don't think it really happens that often - it's more a confirmation bias as a result of players being more aware of the metagame than they were before. What DOES bug me is the inconsistency of price decay for cards that have fallen out of favor.

It's not impossible to get in on a card before it blows up, but the waiting after the hype hits a card price is unbelievably long now.


My guess for that is no one wants to miss out on the next flash in the pan and maintain inflated prices to cover themselves. It probably doesn't help that StarCityGames has become such a dominant force in card valuation online. Here in Prague the same effect occurs from 'Cerny Rytir'. (Black Knight / cernyrytir.cz if you want to look)

Being the dominant (nearly only) card shop in both of the Czech Republic's biggest cities they set the prices as the market will bear and people base trading valuations on their rates.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by coasterdude84:
Found a babysitter for tonight, which means I get to go play Magic! Woot!

Lucky man . Haven't played since just after Christmas . Probably will get one week of ante league in before the pre-release, though.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MagicPatty:
anyone know a site that buys bulk rares at a good price?


Depending on what you consider a good price, I just might be interested myself.

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http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=472132

love these prices on this buylist.

bloodstained mire at $5usd? seriously

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Aznopium:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=472132

love these prices on this buylist.

bloodstained mire at $5usd? seriously


It's MTGsalv you actually expect common sense from there?

Also Tombs at 3, Vamp tutor at 5, he basically wants stuff at like a 4th of it's value.

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I hears rumors that wizards is going to start supporting a pauper format of some kind. Anybody else hear anything about this?
 
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Originally posted by theqissilent:
I hears rumors that wizards is going to start supporting a pauper format of some kind. Anybody else hear anything about this?

So soon after adding modern? I haven't heard any rumors but I doubt they are true.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by ryan2754:
Blind Obedience really should have had a B in it's casting cost

The card seems more Boros or Azorius than Ohrzov except for the addition of Extort. Tapping things is traditionally a blue thing and tapping all creatures has often been done by red (ex. Thundermaw Hellkite). I actually like that it's 1W instead of BW so that it has the option of going into a WR or UW deck and still being fairly useful.

Similar enchantments from magic's past:
R - Ashling's Prerogative
U - Frozen Aether (color shifted version of Kismet)
W - Kismet
R - Uphill Battle

 
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Loxodon Gatekeeper is white as well.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by theqissilent:
I hears rumors that wizards is going to start supporting a pauper format of some kind. Anybody else hear anything about this?

At least it's a better rumor than the one someone was mentioning at our store that WotC was going to ban white-bordered cards from tournament play.

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quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
At least it's a better rumor than the one someone was mentioning at our store that WotC was going to ban white-bordered cards from tournament play.



Bahaha! What?! Not a chance. only beta duals? Legacy would cease to exist.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
The card seems more Boros or Azorius than Ohrzov except for the addition of Extort. Tapping things is traditionally a blue thing and tapping all creatures has often been done by red (ex. Thundermaw Hellkite). I actually like that it's 1W instead of BW so that it has the option of going into a WR or UW deck and still being fairly useful.

Similar enchantments from magic's past:
R - Ashling's Prerogative
U - Frozen Aether (color shifted version of Kismet)
W - Kismet
R - Uphill Battle


Actually red only taps lots of creatures when the ability is tacked onto a huge hasty beater.

White and blue are the tap colors. Blue has more tap alls than white. White has the Kismet ability (minus planar chaos).

 
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Is there some kind of penalty for somebody claiming to be a judge when they are not?
 

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