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MeddlingMage Member	posted January 18, 2013 04:23 PM I need Phantasmal Images...check my list folks ~MM __________________ Blah, blah, blah werewolf. Smackity-smack not a werewolf. Suspicious of this fruit loop. My vote this round will be for Player X. New keeper of the Logout button
WeedIan Member	posted January 18, 2013 06:09 PM Grrr. I"m starting to hate EDH. Either people complain decks are too strong or if they get ahead they say "Oh your deck just does nothing". Its become a vicious cycle of casual magic bullpoop __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
Lord Crovax Member	posted January 18, 2013 06:21 PM quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: Grrr. I"m starting to hate EDH. Either people complain decks are too strong or if they get ahead they say "Oh your deck just does nothing". Its become a vicious cycle of casual magic bullpoop Sounds more like your playgroup then EDH, as people whine like that with all formats.
Heresy19 Member	posted January 18, 2013 07:58 PM Is it just me or is Modern getting bigger and Legacy getting smaller?
revenger Member	posted January 18, 2013 08:03 PM quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: Is it just me or is Modern getting bigger and Legacy getting smaller? 2 words. Modern Masters. Now ask WOTC which one is promoted/supported. __________________ Your 2008, 2010 & 2012 Siskel & Ebert award winner! Your Motl runner-up in My Cousin Vinny & Rolling Stone Award! 32nd in refs on Motl! #1 Ref's for Arizona! I offer 3rd party trading services. Email if interested.
Vegas10 Member	posted January 18, 2013 08:11 PM quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: Is it just me or is Modern getting bigger and Legacy getting smaller? I agree modern is getting bigger, but where is legacy getting smaller, scg opens seem to still have good attendance.
Heresy19 Member	posted January 18, 2013 08:15 PM quote: Originally posted by Vegas10: I agree modern is getting bigger, but where is legacy getting smaller, scg opens seem to still have good attendance. I didn't see a 1K player SCG Open lately tho :/ It's still popular but Modern has taken a big place now. I'm tired of searching for FoW and Duals, maybe trading down my Oops to get playsets of Modern staples could be a good option since my LGS cancelled the Monday Night Legacy in favor or Monday Night Modern.
Lord Crovax Member	posted January 18, 2013 08:30 PM Think Legacy will just rotate as SCG runs event, be big certain times of year, etc. __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
Vegas10 Member	posted January 18, 2013 08:46 PM quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: I didn't see a 1K player SCG Open lately tho :/ It's still popular but Modern has taken a big place now. I'm tired of searching for FoW and Duals, maybe trading down my Oops to get playsets of Modern staples could be a good option since my LGS cancelled the Monday Night Legacy in favor or Monday Night Modern. I don't think they have ever gotten 1k for a legacy open, I don't even think the standard portion gets that many, so I don't really see how that is relevant, and one store cancelling a legacy event isn't really evidence it is shrinking.
Krieg Member	posted January 19, 2013 12:46 AM quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: Is it just me or is Modern getting bigger and Legacy getting smaller? Not here. No one shows for Modern FNM but the casual legacy group does every week.
Zeckk Member	posted January 19, 2013 01:35 AM quote: Originally posted by Vegas10: I don't think they have ever gotten 1k for a legacy open, I don't even think the standard portion gets that many, so I don't really see how that is relevant, and one store cancelling a legacy event isn't really evidence it is shrinking. Correct. However, SCG is indeed dropping legacy events at certain locations, largely because legacy underperformed last year at those locations. I think SCG is purposely avoiding scheduling a modern open event because it will trigger a format Exodus once it happens, and SCG wants to be fully prepared for such an Exodus. If one was very cynical (or simply paranoid), one could argue that the recent price spikes on modern staples could be a result of SCG stocking up on modern, similar to what happened just before they started running legacy opens.
Devonin Member	posted January 19, 2013 04:18 AM It's cynical to think that a business is making decisions designed to make them a profit?
WeedIan Member	posted January 19, 2013 06:10 AM We still get more for Legacy than Modern. Until Modern is done being Jund.Format Legacy isn't going to die off. I think if they don't ban Show and Tell soon that it'll drive people from the format, deck may not be winning a ton but the card keeps so many strategies from seeing play.
Zeckk Member	posted January 19, 2013 07:09 AM quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: We still get more for Legacy than Modern. Until Modern is done being Jund.Format Legacy isn't going to die off. I think if they don't ban Show and Tell soon that it'll drive people from the format, deck may not be winning a ton but the card keeps so many strategies from seeing play. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=473059 Modern actually looks pretty darn healthy. Roughly 15 distinct archetypes making multiple top 8s. Yeah, Jund is clearly the top deck right now, but the W/U control deck is having a field day with the Soul Jund list, and affinity still punches jund in the crotch. I agree that legacy isn't even close to dead yet, but I would definitely argue that it has peaked, and will go back to being a regional/online format in about 3 years, maybe sooner if WotC doesn't reprint ONS fetches and FoW in some fashion.
WeedIan Member	posted January 19, 2013 07:36 AM quote: Originally posted by Zeckk: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=473059 Modern actually looks pretty darn healthy. Roughly 15 distinct archetypes making multiple top 8s. Yeah, Jund is clearly the top deck right now, but the W/U control deck is having a field day with the Soul Jund list, and affinity still punches jund in the crotch. I agree that legacy isn't even close to dead yet, but I would definitely argue that it has peaked, and will go back to being a regional/online format in about 3 years, maybe sooner if WotC doesn't reprint ONS fetches and FoW in some fashion. Prices on dual lands arn't going to go down though. EDH will keep the prices up. For my comments about my EDH group above its mostly one individual driving the pouting and I had a bad night where i went home early because i would have sat for 30 minutes not playing magic while others did. Also for a BTA like http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/005257.html I think we gave too much leway to allow this guy to continue on. Its been open for over 6 months __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
AlmostGrown Member	posted January 19, 2013 09:18 AM This isn't the first time he's done something like this too. I'm surprised he wasn't banned the first time :/
CubFan81 Member	posted January 19, 2013 09:23 AM I think the reason he hasn't been banned is to keep the lines of communication open. Once he's banned then there's almost no reason to try and work something out with the other guy which only hurts him.
WeedIan Member	posted January 19, 2013 10:57 AM Does anyone know what policy MAB_RAPPER is talking about that makes him not send to Canada?
skizzikmonger Member	posted January 19, 2013 10:58 AM quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: Is it just me or is Modern getting bigger and Legacy getting smaller? It depends on where you are. Some places Legacy's big, Modern is in others. Neither are big in some places, like CO. IMO, if Legacy dies, it will be because of the reserve list. Not modern.
thror Member	posted January 19, 2013 11:13 AM Modern is getting big right now because it's the PTQ format. The same thing happened with extended. Itll die off for months, then come roaring back again next year. __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there." [16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
Bagbokk Member	posted January 19, 2013 11:18 AM quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: Does anyone know what policy MAB_RAPPER is talking about that makes him not send to Canada? Is it the one where they have to enter everything on the customs form so he has to stand in line for a long ass time? Basically if you send a "small package" which requires a customs label, they have to enter a bunch of details on that label into their system. I'm not sure if it's both addresses or just the addressee, but it's a lot of typing (especially if the clerk isn't very fast at it) and it ends up taking like 5 minutes per package standing in line waiting for them to input everything. One of the clerks at one of the post offices here has been sending my stuff via "large envelope" if it's under a certain thickness - which I don't think she's suppoosed to do - but it avoids having to fill out a customs form and is a little cheaper so we're both happy.
Bagbokk Member	posted January 19, 2013 11:20 AM quote: Originally posted by Zeckk: Correct. However, SCG is indeed dropping legacy events at certain locations, largely because legacy underperformed last year at those locations. I think SCG is purposely avoiding scheduling a modern open event because it will trigger a format Exodus once it happens, and SCG wants to be fully prepared for such an Exodus. If one was very cynical (or simply paranoid), one could argue that the recent price spikes on modern staples could be a result of SCG stocking up on modern, similar to what happened just before they started running legacy opens. Why is Exodus in caps?! Anyway, I think at SCG Columbus for Standard they said something about it being their biggest SCG Open ever, and that was like just below 700 players. I'm glad they aren't doing Modern. I don't like the format much. [Edited 1 times, lastly by Bagbokk on January 19, 2013]
fluffycow Member	posted January 19, 2013 11:41 AM quote: Originally posted by Bagbokk: Why is Exodus in caps?! Anyway, I think at SCG Columbus for Standard they said something about it being their biggest SCG Open ever, and that was like just below 700 players. I'm glad they aren't doing Modern. I don't like the format much. I think modern is ssooooooo good, the fact that there aren't strictly better dual lands is probably the biggest reason for me. I have to take a bolt for my RDW to not auto-lose to a chalice makes this format amazing in my opinion. On a side note, boro charm, surprisingly not as great in burn as I initially thought
Pail42 Member	posted January 19, 2013 02:55 PM quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: Does anyone know what policy MAB_RAPPER is talking about that makes him not send to Canada? In addition to everything babgokk said, it could be that he doesn't want to pay more than $10 to get delivery confirmation - MOTL and PayPal both require DC in case the receiver claims the package didn't arrive.
Zeckk Member	posted January 19, 2013 04:23 PM quote: Originally posted by fluffycow: I think modern is ssooooooo good, the fact that there aren't strictly better dual lands is probably the biggest reason for me. I have to take a bolt for my RDW to not auto-lose to a chalice makes this format amazing in my opinion. On a side note, boro charm, surprisingly not as great in burn as I initially thought Boros charm is much better in a creature-heavy aggro deck, as opposed to a burn deck.

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