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Originally posted by chaos021:
Urza was a sociopath and unbelievably powerful, but he stills pales in comparison to what Nicol Bolas should be. I'd be more interested to see what Serra would be like.

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I'd rather see what Baron Sengir would be like, he told Serra AND Feroz to **** off. While takin' a ride in his carriage drawn-by-flesh-eating-nightmare-horses.

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Originally posted by mtglover:
Well, why can't we just have all the past planeswalkers made? Even if the cards need to very OP, we can have it in an unhinged set. Then I can pay them in a casual cube.

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Serra (it's angels so it's overpriced, say 5WWWW)

+1 - Gain 2 life
-4 - Make a Serra Angel
-10 - Put "cool art Plains" into play. Cool art Plains taps for W for every Plains you control that is from the Urza's Saga expansion set.

Urza (1U, because if it cost U it would be too good)

+1 - Tolarian Academy
-1 - Tinker
+4 - Timetwister only for you

Yawgmoth (BBB - that means it's really hard to cast!)

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Serra (it's angels so it's overpriced, say 5WWWW)

+1 - Gain 2 life
-4 - Make a Serra Angel
-10 - Put "cool art Plains" into play. Cool art Plains taps for W for every Plains you control that is from the Urza's Saga expansion set.

Urza (1U, because if it cost U it would be too good)

+1 - Tolarian Academy
-1 - Tinker
+4 - Timetwister only for you

Yawgmoth (BBB - that means it's really hard to cast!)

+1 - Yawgmoth's Will
-1 - Put into play from anywhere including outside the game, any card that says "Yawgmoth's" on it.
-10 - Destroy all cards from the Invasion expansion or earlier.

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I can dig it.

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To get any sales, seems I need to be at or near the lowest pricing for a card, and after fees, probably nets roughly 70% of TCG mid for cards over $5 (due to shipping/fees, lower cost cards would net less, unless I make it a high shipping cost). Probably pretty close to what I would get from ebay, but it is much quicker to list the cards.

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Originally posted by iccarus:
Has it been pretty efficient superpup? I'm close to opening my own, since it seems like less of a hassle than ebay and has more traffic than here. Any issues with scammers yet? Is it worth listing anything under a certain dollar value?

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Adding cards has been a manual process, but fairly quick and easy to do, especially compared to the work involved in creating ebay listings. Thus far have not had any scammers.

The amount you decide to charge for shipping will probably have a big impact on level of activity you have, what percent of 'value' you net from the cards, and what minimum value of cards you want to list. Their fees are 11% of total sale (including the shipping) + .50 per order. Minimum order amount is $1, I don't think that can be adjusted. Right now I charge .99 shipping, which is the minimum until you reach 51 delivered orders. If you go lower than that, then you run greater risk of occasionally losing money on small sales, but if you go higher, then it can make it harder to have any sales at all.

I'm not planning to do this long term, so my current plan is to lower the shipping a little bit when I can, but once my good stuff is gone then raise it back up to something like 1.99 so that I don't waste my time with too many small orders.

For the best use of my personal time, I probably will stick to just listing cards that have a mid price of $1 on up.

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Originally posted by DJSmurfy:
EDH players act ****ing insane.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Insane how?

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Originally posted by DJSmurfy:
Ever seen those videos of super aggressive Scientologists?

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I'm going to have to disagree, as an EDH player, I am nothing like super aggressive religions fanatics of any religion, or cult.

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Originally posted by aethertech:
I'm going to have to disagree, as an EDH player, I am nothing like super aggressive religions fanatics of any religion, or cult.

Please don't compare me, and others like me, to that sort of religious-cult devotion of psychotic sociopaths.

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Then you're one of the outliers. It seems that nearly every MTG forum or discussion I stumble across, EDH players act like rabid fanatics. I got downvoted on Reddit, over negative 100, just for stating that I had no interest in the format. (And that was the day I finally gave a big **** you to Reddit, particularly the garbage MTG forums).

You can discuss the pros, cons, and various issues of Limited, Standard, Modern, Legacy, and Vintage. One minor comment about EDH, and you have the crazies crawling out of the woodwork. They're the most in your face about their preferred format subset of Magic players I have ever encountered.

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All of them are fairly new to Magic and as such, all of their cards are new. I have no idea what half the cards they're playing do, and, to use the political term, seem to play in an echo chamber where they only experience the same cards over and over again.
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Originally posted by coasterdude84:
By me, I find about half the EDH players to simply be immature. They're not bad guys, I think I'm just getting a little too old to find those kinds of goofball antics amusing. The rest seem fine, although I do have one complaint about all of them:

[old guy rant]
All of them are fairly new to Magic and as such, all of their cards are new. I have no idea what half the cards they're playing do, and, to use the political term, seem to play in an echo chamber where they only experience the same cards over and over again.
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I'd say about 85% of my Magic experience exists in the original card frame. As such, while I've avoided EDH as much as possible, I must say I've felt a bit inspired to go build a strictly pre-8th edition EDH deck. It sorely limits options for sure, but such restrictions often breed creativity, so we'll see what happens. Any thoughts on a General? Kinda leaning towards Tsabo Tavoc.

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Something green, Hazezon Tamar, Rubinia Soulsinger, Xira Arien, and Angus Mackenzie are the best multicolor green generals in old-frame. And, for monocolor - Multani, Nemata, Silvos, and Verdeloth.

Regardless of which one you actually go with, the following old-frame spells are pretty much mandatory in decks with the appropriate color: Swords to Plowshares, Demonic Tutor, Skyshroud Claim, Nature's Lore, Three Visits, Dismiss, Wood Elves, Greater Good, Regrowth, Mirri's Guile, High Market, Winding Canyons, Volrath's Stronghold, Akroma, Decree of Pain, Reanimate, Wrath of God, Tormod's Crypt, Implode, Flametounge Kavu, Orcish Settlers, Phyrexian Furnace, Fork, Ruination, Wheel of Fortune, Clone, Silverglade Elemental, Spike Weaver, Temple of the False God, Reflecting Pool, Time Spiral, Spelljack, Desertion, Exclude, Mystic Snake, Dismantling Blow, Phyrexian Arena, Phyrexian Reclamation, Maze of Ith, Phyrexian Tower, Corpse Dance, Mutilate, Yawgmoth's Will, Spoils of Victory, Sylvan Library, Crush of Wurms, Explosive Vegetation, Commander Eesha, Lieutenant Kirta, Jayemdae Tome, Kjeldoran Outpost, Kor Haven, Strip Mine, Wasteland, Rout, Grinning Totem, Withered Wretch.

And a whole bunch more, the hardest part of pre-8th edition, is the lack of premium exile based removal. You get Swords to Plowshares, and a few wackier things like Dust to Dust, Amulet of Unmaking, Avenger en-Dal, Cannibalize, Carrionette, Disintegrate, Dissipate, Dust to Dust, Excise, Exile, Flaming Gambit, Legacy Weapon, Oubliette, Parralax enchantments, Petradon, Petravark, Quash, Second Thoughts, Shauku, Topple, Treva's Charm, Vengeful Dreams, Whippoorwill,

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Originally posted by DJSmurfy:
Then you're one of the outliers. It seems that nearly every MTG forum or discussion I stumble across, EDH players act like rabid fanatics. I got downvoted on Reddit, over negative 100, just for stating that I had no interest in the format. (And that was the day I finally gave a big **** you to Reddit, particularly the garbage MTG forums).

You can discuss the pros, cons, and various issues of Limited, Standard, Modern, Legacy, and Vintage. One minor comment about EDH, and you have the crazies crawling out of the woodwork. They're the most in your face about their preferred format subset of Magic players I have ever encountered.

And you can say "I'm not one of them". That's fine and dandy, and you may not be. I'm not one of those obnoxious atheists that want to take everything to the courtroom. But just because you or I aren't some loony, that doesn't mean all those other guys over there aren't.

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Originally posted by fluffycow:
If you have no interest in the format, then it shouldn't bother you what hardcore fans of the format think of you. I only play EDH now since I don't have time to keep up with constructed, so if someone that doesn't know much about the format has to public say that he/she doesn't like it, I would neg that too.

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Oh, I have long since quit giving a **** about what people think about me. The only person I give a crap about impressing is a potential employer. This particular incident was just the straw that made me say to hell with the general idiocy of Reddit, and the Magic sub in particular.

I've just found that EDH players are the Vegans of Magic. They just can't stop mentioning it at every turn. I don't find fans of the other formats to be the same.

To be fair, coasterdude84 put it in a way I hadn't thought of, and is likely correct.

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Originally posted by aethertech:
Something green, Hazezon Tamar, Rubinia Soulsinger, Xira Arien, and Angus Mackenzie are the best multicolor green generals in old-frame. And, for monocolor - Multani, Nemata, Silvos, and Verdeloth.

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Thanks. That's a good list, and included a few good ones I'd forgotten all about. And I agree on the removal part. Always thought indestructible was bad for creatures to have.

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Originally posted by stab107:
So you got downvoted on reddit and were super butthurt over it. So butthurt that you had to come here to rant about it. Yet somehow you don't care what others think...

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Originally posted by coasterdude84:
why green? Don't get me wrong, I love green, but what's the advantage, mana accel? Green has historically been weak, especially when we consider the power creep of creatures over the past 10 years.

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In EDH, green is actually extremely powerful. Cards like Sylvan Library, Regrowth, Survival of the Fittest, Skyshroud Claim (and similar 2-land ramp spells), Tooth and Nail, and Seedborn Muse/Prophet of Kruphix are all staples of the format.

I wouldn't play it as the only color, but the 3-color legends that incorporate it should be worth consideration. Of the list aethertech suggested, I think Angus or Xira are strong contenders for an effective pre-8th edition theme.

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Originally posted by DJSmurfy:
Spike in demand for the Theros gods on Pucatrade all of the sudden. I wonder if I should hold or trade.

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Originally posted by Pail42:
Gods are highly likely in the yearly commander sets, but are really hard to reprint outside that. I expect they will continue to gain steadily.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Gods are rotating soon. Buy when rotate.

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Um, didn't they already rotate earlier this fall?

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