1. Default (my usual, works reasonably well for both core and hardcore)
Commando w/red dot
Ballistic knife
Semtex, flashbang, claymore
Ghost pro
Sleight of hand pro
Marathon

2. Hardline
Commando w/silencer
Ballistic knife
Semtex, flashbang, claymore
Hardline pro
Sleight of hand pro
Marathon pro

3. Hardline (for core)
G11
Ballistic knife
Semtex, flashbang, claymore
Hardline pro
Sleight of hand pro
Marathon

4. Invisible
Commando with silencer
Ballistic knife
Semtex, flashbang, jammer (BROKEN equipment in domination which is what I usually play)
Ghost pro
Sleight of hand pro
Hacker (soon to be pro)

5. Jerk
Spas-12 with silencer
Python with dual weild
Semtex, flashbang, claymore
Lightweight pro
Steady aim pro
Marathon

My usual playing buddy ragequit for the last time this week (or so bs says), so if any MOTLers want to play, hit me up sometime. Gamertag is the3rdButler

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Originally posted by Our_Benefactors:
Yes, the crossbow always blows up... I don't follow.

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Originally posted by Tranderas:
Super-stealthy

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I wasn't following that Tran's super stealthy class ran this, I mean I don't know if a red dot shows up when you shoot it but blowing stuff up isn't really super stealthy

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Originally posted by WCFmo:
I wasn't following that Tran's super stealthy class ran this, I mean I don't know if a red dot shows up when you shoot it but blowing stuff up isn't really super stealthy

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Originally posted by Tranderas:
The problem with trying to run super stealthy is that the ballistic knife is such a connection-based weapon and the pistols that can have silencers are all terrible (~4-5 shot kills above 5m with them). The only valid alternative is to use explosive crossbow bolts and run away after you shoot them.

I actually really like the LAW secondary on my FAMAS class because it's extraordinarily versatile. The ability to take down air support or shoot boomsticks @ campers is definitely helpful, and it's not like you're getting any kills with your secondary most of the time anyway.

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Unless its for a very specific purpose (ie dual pythons for more steady aim pro fun) I always use the ballistic knife because the faster knife lunge makes the difference between life and death when raiding camp spots and/or close quarters (whereas primary weapon is obviously for range). Course, clearing out buildings is my speciality so it may be that it just suits my playstyle (whereas snipers or run & gunners may want backup firepower).

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Originally posted by Tranderas:
I tend to play with defensive-minded MW2 veterans who know that once you have a line drawn along a certain portion of the map, you can just post up and let your opponents come to you fishing for kills. As a result, my classes, and my playstyle, tend to focus on play that lets me best defend one general area, with the occasional rush to re-secure it after my teammates fail to watch my back or the randoms on our GW team rush the other spawn.

Knifing is horrible on terrible connections. I only get 3.0 Mb/s down so i've always got about .75 second delay on knifing :\

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Yeah, I know what you mean. That's how I play tdm, but I haven't played that in a loong time domination involves a lot more bunker-busting, especially on first strike maps since there's always a prime building for defense near B. Plus its so much more satisfying to kill a camper from behind (especially with a knife lunge), haha

Tried using the FAL as well to complete a contract, and it really just highlighted how connection based performance in this game is. I fired a full inch on screen away from a guy as he was gunning me down (was a turn and reaction fire move), and killed him with a headshot... I was nowhere near him, but i guess he wasn't actually in that spot, but a few feet ahead due to our different connection quality

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Originally posted by Malice327:
I'll admit... sticking to my favorites nets me a better W/L and KD ratio, but sometimes deviating for something weird is a lot of fun. I went 79 - 11 using the M60 with extended mags and grip. Perfect setup for an LMG as your clip is all the bullets you have... 300 rounds in a clip never having to reload is really funny. A 2 shot med - short range kill is really nice as well.

Tried using the FAL as well to complete a contract, and it really just highlighted how connection based performance in this game is. I fired a full inch on screen away from a guy as he was gunning me down (was a turn and reaction fire move), and killed him with a headshot... I was nowhere near him, but i guess he wasn't actually in that spot, but a few feet ahead due to our different connection quality

@ almostgrown: the big difference between the two is that the commando has lateral and vertical kick, where the ak just has vertical, so it can be a bit more beneficial at greater than short range engagements.

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I watched your video that you linked to on the previous page. Great advice man, I'm gonna give it a shot

Also, what are your thoughts on using Jammer (not always, but for certain maps) when defending, for example, B? I've found it's amazing because its radius is gigantic, it puts everyone on the other team onto the defensive (and thus easier targets), or even better makes them focus on finding and destroying the jammer instead of capping. I first gave it a spin when playing with 7 friends on Havana Domination (ground war, obv) when we were getting bent over the table and it completely changed the course of the game, allowing us to take and defend B for the rest of the match.

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Originally posted by Bugger:
I watched your video that you linked to on the previous page. Great advice man, I'm gonna give it a shot

Also, what are your thoughts on using Jammer (not always, but for certain maps) when defending, for example, B? I've found it's amazing because its radius is gigantic, it puts everyone on the other team onto the defensive (and thus easier targets), or even better makes them focus on finding and destroying the jammer instead of capping. I first gave it a spin when playing with 7 friends on Havana Domination (ground war, obv) when we were getting bent over the table and it completely changed the course of the game, allowing us to take and defend B for the rest of the match.

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On my objective taking class I always use jammer as it is a blast! The best thing about it, is if there is a lot of fighting over the central flag, having a jammer near it means your team mates without silencers are only showing up on the radar when firing, to people outside of the jammer radius. Also, if you are taking a flag and someone tosses C4 at you, you're generally dead, even if you have flak jacket it will damage you to the point where anymore damage kills you. Jammers stop that from happening. My objective class is the following:

Flak Jacket, Steady aim, Marathon (all pro)
Aug with dual mags / something that goes boom
Semtex, Flash Grenade, Jammer

Once you've taken the central flag, your goal will be to get close enough to their spawn to drop a jammer somewhere hard to find, and then retreat (or kill their post players)

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Originally posted by Malice327:
On my objective taking class I always use jammer as it is a blast!

Flak Jacket, Steady aim, Marathon (all pro)
Aug with dual mags / something that goes boom
Semtex, Flash Grenade, Jammer

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I've been trying out this exact class (except Flak Jacket and Steady Aim aren't pro, yet, and the secondary is the RPG) and this class has been doing wonders for my objective based games.

1. Capping
Famas with Dual Mag (I <3 Dual Mag, if I could have sex with it without hurting myself I would)
RPG (I'm sorry you're trying to cap B first? I don't think so)
Semtex, Flash, Jammer
Flak Jacket (eventually pro, but hardly anyone uses frags )
Sleight of Hand Pro
Marathon

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Famas with Dual Mag
China Lake
Semtex
Willy Pete (greatest radius, therefore most guaranteed to totally cover a flag's capping zone)
Claymore
Flak Jacket
Sleight of Hand Pro
Tactical Mask (definitely want to make pro)

3. Antiaircraft
Commando w/suppressor
Strela-3
Semtex, flashbang, claymore/jammer (undecided)
Ghost Pro
Sleight of Hand Pro
Hacker Pro

I went 33-19 on Kowloon last night with my buddy, had 6 caps and 7 defends not my best K/D, and certainly nothing special compared to most of the people in this thread, but miles better than I usually do.

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Originally posted by JesusChristMD:
Getting back into WoW....le sigh.

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ditto, but on the Euro servers tho :P

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
Anybody want to play some Black Ops with me? I'm down for Zombies (not Dead Ops arcade though) or multiplayer, but I don't have the new maps yet. Send a FR to EveryoneYouLove!

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I'll drop ya a line. The more the merrier! my friends and I do objective-based only though, usually domination and team tac but occasionally ctf or headquarters. I've got a hella busy week ahead of me though so I probably won't be on much at all :/

2 observations:
1. Flak Jacket throwback req's trigger from you picking it up, not actually throwing it back. I got that challenge completed without even realizing it
2. The plant/defuse req is wonderfully synergistic, I had my teammates begging me to be the one to defuse because I would shake off explosions like no ones business.

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Originally posted by Bugger:
I'll drop ya a line. The more the merrier! my friends and I do objective-based only though, usually domination and team tac but occasionally ctf or headquarters. I've got a hella busy week ahead of me though so I probably won't be on much at all :/

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Awesome, I don't mind what we play as long as it isn't hardcore or barebones.

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2 observations:
1. Flak Jacket throwback req's trigger from you picking it up, not actually throwing it back. I got that challenge completed without even realizing it

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Good to know, I'll just run around looking for frags i guess

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2. The plant/defuse req is wonderfully synergistic, I had my teammates begging me to be the one to defuse because I would shake off explosions like no ones business.

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Ugh that one was so annoying, sometimes Demolition just drives me insane with the amount of grenade launchers going around. So glad I got that done and now I just need to pick up/throw back 4 frags

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Originally posted by Tranderas:
when you play black ops, and then go back to mw2, you realize how horrible the connections, matchmaking and hit detection are on Black Ops. Oh my goodness...

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SERIOUSLY QFT!!!

Played some MW2 last night, and the connection difference is negligible. I didn't play for too too long though, as after the 20th time being tubed I decided connection issues are a bit less frustrating. Sniping in MW2 is 100 times better.

Anyone wanting to play Black ops toss a FR to Blakwhysper (my primary account) and/or Malice327 (secondary). My brother and I generally play objective based games. Getting a group together is always a blast. Played with some guys from OpTic and Envyus a couple nights ago, and had an awesome time. Our kill death is about the same, however, their Wiin loss ratio is staggering, as they play in full teams most of the time, where i play with Tangoix and 4 pubs. Lowest W/L ratio i saw was 6+, and those guys definitely deserve the title "pro gamer". I had a rare moment of video game envy playing with them hahaha.

Best thing to do to get flak jacket pro is to crouch in the tower on firing range, in FFA, and fire your gun so you show up on the radar. People will generally toss tons of grenades up there, and i usually see more frags in ffa than in other game types. As long as you start to pick the grenade up before it detonates, it counts.

You may not notice the connection issues as much if you're on a fast connection, but on my 3 Mb/s DSL it hurts a ton. On BO I've noticed a full second delay between what I input and what actually happened sometimes in killcams; in MW2 it's rarely more than a quarter-second. It just feels like the game's better at processing the information.

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Originally posted by Tranderas:
I have not been tubed since I started playing MW2 again. This is 30 or so games in. Actually, I've been doing the tubing, as it's the most fun way to play Wasteland TDM or domination.

You may not notice the connection issues as much if you're on a fast connection, but on my 3 Mb/s DSL it hurts a ton. On BO I've noticed a full second delay between what I input and what actually happened sometimes in killcams; in MW2 it's rarely more than a quarter-second. It just feels like the game's better at processing the information.

Oh, and ACR > Commando.

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