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Topic: MOTL Fantasy Hockey 2011-12 The League
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 06, 2011 02:37 PM
Dane's pick is now up. Sorry for the double post.__________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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Thanos Member
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posted August 07, 2011 07:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by daner: Stop posting on the goddamn draftboard! Only use it for picks and trades. We only have 300 posts then it will close. DO NOT WASTE MY SPACE! This is why we have this other thread to talk about things.
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 07, 2011 10:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by daner: Stop posting on the goddamn draftboard! Only use it for picks and trades. We only have 300 posts then it will close. DO NOT WASTE MY SPACE! This is why we have this other thread to talk about things.
aka Omega delete your posts in the draft board. I'll be without internet Friday/Saturday and most of sunday so hopefully it doesn't get back to me on the weekend i'd rather not delay things. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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daner Member
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posted August 08, 2011 12:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: aka Omega delete your posts in the draft board.I'll be without internet Friday/Saturday and most of sunday so hopefully it doesn't get back to me on the weekend i'd rather not delay things.
If it does you know what to do Send me a list...or text. Do you have my #?
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 08, 2011 04:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by daner: If it does you know what to do Send me a list...or text. Do you have my #?
I'll send you my next pick once I know where I'm at thursday night/friday morning. Lol things are slow right now. <edit> lotlizard is up. I'll at least be able to make this pick without any sort of Delay __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
[Edited 1 times, lastly by WeedIan on August 08, 2011]
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Omega Member
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posted August 08, 2011 05:56 PM
Praying my picks don't get picked ^^Any Fantasy guide out there? Yahoo isn't up i believe...
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stab107 Member
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posted August 08, 2011 09:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Omega: Praying my picks don't get picked ^^Any Fantasy guide out there? Yahoo isn't up i believe...
Whatever, Mr. Champion, no help for you! :P Yahoo had some ranking articles up but they were pretty useless for the most part. Ian has some secret sources he's not sharing (omg!) and I've just been using my knowledge of the past few seasons and some stuff from TSN.
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 08, 2011 10:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by stab107: Whatever, Mr. Champion, no help for you! :PYahoo had some ranking articles up but they were pretty useless for the most part. Ian has some secret sources he's not sharing (omg!) and I've just been using my knowledge of the past few seasons and some stuff from TSN.
I think he wants a list of players. Anyone interested in swapping some picks? __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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Omega Member
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posted August 09, 2011 09:26 PM
Damn, Thanos stole my price
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Thanos Member
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posted August 09, 2011 09:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Omega: Damn, Thanos stole my price
I know.
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daner Member
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posted August 09, 2011 11:52 PM
The only goalie I was hoping to get this early was Lundqvist....it's the only goalie I ever want going into a draft. I usually never get him. Oh well.....I didn't draft a goalie until round 6 last year, and I came damn close to winning. Waste your picks I'll keep drafting wingers!
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daner Member
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posted August 10, 2011 12:05 AM
My bad for the double post but I think this needs it's own...I'm about to discuss drafting stategy, at least my strategy. In a normal yahoo league goalies account for 4 of the possible 10 scoring categories. That's a pretty big chunk for something only they can get. 40% locked into goalies? In that scenario I've taken goalies in the first 2 rounds each year in my money league. I've won both years. Both years I've taken Luongo and Lundqvist back to back rounds 1-2. Like I said I've won them both(I was also fortunate enough to snag Quick the first year and it's a keeper...minus 1 slot were you drafted them the year before. Can't keep 1st rounders obv. I took Quick dead last 2 years ago.) Anyway...in the nornal yahoo scenario I will take goalies early and often. In our league there is 5 goalie categories but there are more overall categories. 14 to be exact. It goes from 40% down to 35%...not THAT big a difference but 2/5's cut down to 1/3 is a pretty big difference when you work all the numbers. So I'll do what I normally do...and load up on offense.
Not to mention while all you guys are fixated on drafting goalies remember that 8 have been taken already...and there are still 11 potential starting goalies that could all be #1 this coming season overall. Yes...I count 11 more starters that could be better overall than the 8 already taken. I DON'T count 8 better RW's than Claude Giroux....or even the last LW taken Bobby Ryan. 30+ goal wingers are a premium. Look at how much of a dropoff the point leaders were last season. So while you all dick around with goalies I'll be taking your wingers
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stab107 Member
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posted August 10, 2011 05:47 AM
edit: Thanos, I can't reply to your PM (stupid firefox!) but to answer your question, I would have found another G to take if Lundqvist was gone. I did pretty well last year thanks to strong G.quote: Originally posted by Omega: Damn, Thanos stole my price
If King Henrik hadn't been there, you would have been blaming me for that. Price was my second choice. G is a pretty important position in this league as last year I came pretty close to winning as well and G was my strongest position. Daner and I went down to the wire in the semi-finals last year and if I recall correctly, daner edged me out 7-6. Daner is right that high quality wingers are important but so are high quality Gs. And anyway, not everyone gets to start their draft off with a 100+ point producing forward to push offence hard. Having Crosby locked up it make sense for you to get as much scoring power as you can up front, especially on the wings as W is not as deep as C, as you can push for wins in G,A,PPG,PPA and maybe even GWG. As long as you can pick up at least one starter G and then later find a guy who is waiting in the wings to become a starter, it should work out. BTW, it was round 5 last year when you took Rinne. I remember .
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 10, 2011 05:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by daner: My bad for the double post but I think this needs it's own...I'm about to discuss drafting stategy, at least my strategy. In a normal yahoo league goalies account for 4 of the possible 10 scoring categories. That's a pretty big chunk for something only they can get. 40% locked into goalies? In that scenario I've taken goalies in the first 2 rounds each year in my money league. I've won both years. Both years I've taken Luongo and Lundqvist back to back rounds 1-2. Like I said I've won them both(I was also fortunate enough to snag Quick the first year and it's a keeper...minus 1 slot were you drafted them the year before. Can't keep 1st rounders obv. I took Quick dead last 2 years ago.) Anyway...in the nornal yahoo scenario I will take goalies early and often. In our league there is 5 goalie categories but there are more overall categories. 14 to be exact. It goes from 40% down to 35%...not THAT big a difference but 2/5's cut down to 1/3 is a pretty big difference when you work all the numbers. So I'll do what I normally do...and load up on offense.
Not to mention while all you guys are fixated on drafting goalies remember that 8 have been taken already...and there are still 11 potential starting goalies that could all be #1 this coming season overall. Yes...I count 11 more starters that could be better overall than the 8 already taken. I DON'T count 8 better RW's than Claude Giroux....or even the last LW taken Bobby Ryan. 30+ goal wingers are a premium. Look at how much of a dropoff the point leaders were last season. So while you all dick around with goalies I'll be taking your wingers
Its possible to get guys who don't score 30 goals and still win weeks, remember there are always guys like Tim Connolly who go really late because everyone is scared they will miss 75% of the season who end up getting 80 points. Its like Lance Berkman, i drafted him in baseball in the late rounds (19th) because everyone thought he was done. Its the whole upside some players do have. Other than taking a top 5 goalie though Dane you are right its a waste to draft more than 1. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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daner Member
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posted August 10, 2011 07:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by stab107: BTW, it was round 5 last year when you took Rinne. I remember .
Yea...but I beat you ;P and came damn close to winning it all and I went Crosby followed by 3 wingers. Crosby, Perry, Burrows, Nash to be exact. C, RW, LW, RW/LW.
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Omega Member
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posted August 10, 2011 09:28 AM
Being last in the draft can be touchy though, especially in our league because of how the snake is and because half teams have franchised someone, half hasn't. I see team not franchising as having a slight advantageBecause of my position (of champion :P) if I don't pick a goalie with my first pick (the second round), there will be like 20++ picks before it comes back to me, and this is taking a huge risk because starting goalies are hard to come by, whereas, wingers, there are plenty. Good wingers, though, I agree, are limited, just like good Goalies. But having a good starting G, is maybe more important as having a good winger.
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Omega Member
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posted August 10, 2011 10:20 AM
No matter what daner picks, I'm sure he won't pick my guys ^^
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 10, 2011 10:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by daner: Yea...but I beat you ;P and came damn close to winning it all and I went Crosby followed by 3 wingers. Crosby, Perry, Burrows, Nash to be exact. C, RW, LW, RW/LW.
And Rinne is super Underrated, he's had stats better than Lundqvist most years but most people forget about him. quote: Originally posted by Omega: Being last in the draft can be touchy though, especially in our league because of how the snake is and because half teams have franchised someone, half hasn't. I see team not franchising as having a slight advantageBecause of my position (of champion :P) if I don't pick a goalie with my first pick (the second round), there will be like 20++ picks before it comes back to me, and this is taking a huge risk because starting goalies are hard to come by, whereas, wingers, there are plenty. Good wingers, though, I agree, are limited, just like good Goalies. But having a good starting G, is maybe more important as having a good winger.
There are still plenty of goalies left, I know of one former Montreal goalie that everyone was swooning over last year who's still available and had a solid year with his new team. It really depends on the league and the statistics we use. If Dane didn't add in SOG i wouldn't be taking Jeff Carter when i did, even Ovie vs Crosby goes more in Crosby's favour when you take away SOG. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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Omega Member
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posted August 10, 2011 12:41 PM
I guess you are right, but the better G may be gone.I like Dane's picks though. Very aggressive forwards, but the trade-off is possibly losing the G stats
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daner Member
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posted August 10, 2011 02:53 PM
The goalie who I picked to have the best season of any this year is STILL sitting out there......and there has been 10 picked so far. There is not a chance in hell(barring an injury) that the goalie I'm thinking of is worse than 10th overall in the league. This is why I'm not wqorried about the strength of goalies. Omega, yes, you got 2 solid starters...but so what? The next 5-6 goalies off the board might all be better than the 2 you drafted. Every starter gets 30+ wins nowadays...even on a ****ty team. Thank you shoot out wins! Years ago it was hard ot get goalies with 35+ wins, only a few did it. Now everyone does it.
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 10, 2011 03:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Omega: I guess you are right, but the better G may be gone.I like Dane's picks though. Very aggressive forwards, but the trade-off is possibly losing the G stats
The goalie i'm thinking of it still there. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 10, 2011 07:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Tiff: Chris mason g cls
Sorry for the double post but i think Tiff means Steve Mason. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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Omega Member
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posted August 10, 2011 07:25 PM
Well, lets see how it will play out. In my first year, I've used my first 3 picks to get Defensemen, and still finished first Last year, very close, I picked some early G and it paid off.This year, we are more than last year, I think. Howard may have been a mistake... but at least, now, for the next few rounds, I won't have to care about G. There are still a lot of 25-30goals player out there, so I'm still fine. I'll just sit and watch you guys fight over the remaining G ^^ Robert
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daner Member
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posted August 10, 2011 09:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: The goalie i'm thinking of it still there.
I know the goalie you are thinking of and there is a better one. I also belive Tiff was thinking of Steve Mason as well.
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mattw Member
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posted August 10, 2011 10:37 PM
i know you guys are thinking of nabokov and the only reason i never took him is my shoulders aren't big enough to have 11 guys cry on them when i decimate in fantasy hockey this year.let the trash talk begin!!
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