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LAKERS need to cut old plaers, such as Nash, to save their season. imo

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Originally posted by revenger:
LAKERS need to cut old plaers, such as Nash, to save their season. imo


5 games into the season is hardly a gauge on the season being lost or not. It takes time for players to mesh. Look at the Miami Heat the 1st year LeBron and Bosh was there.

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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
5 games into the season is hardly a gauge on the season being lost or not. It takes time for players to mesh. Look at the Miami Heat the 1st year LeBron and Bosh was there.

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yeah, all they did was make it to the Finals.

 
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Lakers need a proper bench. Wait, why am I saying that as a non-Laker fan? All is well in Lakerland!
 
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Originally posted by speechjew:
yeah, all they did was make it to the Finals.

Thank you for making my point for me. But what was their record starting out the season? They eventually righted the ship.

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Grizz get no respect, all they do is win against heat and thunder.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
Grizz get no respect, all they do is win against heat and thunder.

When they do something in the playoffs they'll get respect

 
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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
When they do something in the playoffs they'll get respect

Please, that's just bull. You know it. They get no respect because they're not in a major market and they don't have two lotto pick superstars.

Knicks go 6-0 in the regular season for the first time and years, and they go straight to #1 on the power rankings?

Most NBA fans don't even know a single Memphis player because their games aren't aired much. You might be one of those fans and it's okay. The Grizz beat the Heat and the Thunder and don't get a mention. They've done plenty in the playoffs the past 2 seasons to show that they're real.

 
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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
When they do something in the playoffs they'll get respect

They did very well 2 years ago.

And I like Shane Battier!

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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
Please, that's just bull. You know it. They get no respect because they're not in a major market and they don't have two lotto pick superstars.

Knicks go 6-0 in the regular season for the first time and years, and they go straight to #1 on the power rankings?

Most NBA fans don't even know a single Memphis player because their games aren't aired much. You might be one of those fans and it's okay. The Grizz beat the Heat and the Thunder and don't get a mention. They've done plenty in the playoffs the past 2 seasons to show that they're real.


Memphis has, in my opinion, the most well balanced front court in the league.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
Please, that's just bull. You know it. They get no respect because they're not in a major market and they don't have two lotto pick superstars.

Knicks go 6-0 in the regular season for the first time and years, and they go straight to #1 on the power rankings?

Most NBA fans don't even know a single Memphis player because their games aren't aired much. You might be one of those fans and it's okay. The Grizz beat the Heat and the Thunder and don't get a mention. They've done plenty in the playoffs the past 2 seasons to show that they're real.


It's simple. This gets you respect. This doesn't. The ONLY people that give a **** that Memphis beat OKC and Miami in the first month of the regular season are Grizzlies fans.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by skizzikmonger on November 16, 2012]

 
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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
It's simple. This gets you respect. This doesn't. The ONLY people that give a **** that Memphis beat OKC and Miami in the first month of the regular season are Grizzlies fans.

So the only thing in the NBA you care about is the Miami Heat?

lol, you're basically using the played out "rings argument." The Thunder get a whole lot of respect for not winning a finals. And so did the Knicks.

Here's the truth, and it's simple. Grizz get no respect b/c
they aren't major market (like NYK) and they don't have superstars (like OKC). You can talk all the gibberish you want about my team. But it's not b/c they haven't won the finals. Anyone who watches NBA games and not just the games on TNT knows that the Grizz have earned it.

The Grizz are a legit team and any basketball fan would probably want what Memphis has going on. Memphis competes, has players you want to watch, and cheap tickets in relatively new stadium. There really isn't a bad seat in FedEx Forum. Want bad seats in the Garden? Pay up!

Look, Grizz beat NYK.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
So the only thing in the NBA you care about is the Miami Heat?

lol, you're basically using the played out "rings argument." The Thunder get a whole lot of respect for not winning a finals. And so did the Knicks.

Here's the truth, and it's simple. Grizz get no respect b/c
they aren't major market (like NYK) and they don't have superstars (like OKC). You can talk all the gibberish you want about my team. But it's not b/c they haven't won the finals. Anyone who watches NBA games and not just the games on TNT knows that the Grizz have earned it.

The Grizz are a legit team and any basketball fan would probably want what Memphis has going on. Memphis competes, has players you want to watch, and cheap tickets in relatively new stadium. There really isn't a bad seat in FedEx Forum. Want bad seats in the Garden? Pay up!

Look, Grizz beat NYK.


respect after making the finals? Yes.

Losing in the 1st round yet again? Not yet.

 
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That NYK/Grizz game was a very dirtily (is that a word) played game. Both teams are for real though.

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Originally posted by speechjew:
respect after making the finals? Yes.

Losing in the 1st round yet again? Not yet.


So you respect only two teams in the NBA?

Grizz lost in the 1st round last season (in a good series against LAC), season before that they beat the #1 seed (San Antonio). They did lose in the 1st round a lot when Shane Battier used to play on the team.

 
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Anyone want a friendly wager on whether or not the Lakers win 60 games?

EDIT: NOT GAMBLING or anything forbidden by MOTL rules.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by MasterWolf on November 18, 2012]

 
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Originally posted by choco man:
So you respect only two teams in the NBA?

Grizz lost in the 1st round last season (in a good series against LAC), season before that they beat the #1 seed (San Antonio). They did lose in the 1st round a lot when Shane Battier used to play on the team.


Could you imagine how bonker Memphis would look like if they drafted Harden instead of Thabeet?

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Could you imagine how bonker Memphis would look like if they drafted Harden instead of Thabeet?


The Grizz haven't drafted well. For all the bad that has been the draft, it's pretty amazing how Zach Randolph has done a 180 and Marc Gasol is panning out.

 
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Originally posted by choco man:
The Grizz haven't drafted well. For all the bad that has been the draft, it's pretty amazing how Zach Randolph has done a 180 and Marc Gasol is panning out.

No doubt Z-Bo surpassed my expectation, and Marc Gasol has been great as well, just that I wish Memphis got market value for Pau at that time. As for the drafts, I am just disappointed.

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Reggie Evans was instrumental is helping the Clippers squeak past the Grizzlies in last season's playoffs.

Oh look, the first player fined for flopping is Reggie Evans. Poor Reggie, it could have been anyone......Chris Paul, Blake Griffin...

 
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Stern fining the Spurs, what a joke?

It definitely sucks that fans in Miami didn't get to see Duncan/Parker/Ginobili, but aren't Miami fans paying to see their team just as much as the other team? For what it's worth, Miami only beat the Spurs by 5 pts.

If "product" is all Stern cares about, what does he have to say about perennial cellar-dwellers like the Bobcats and Wizards?

Did Stern give Chicago fans a refund when they paid crazy money for chance to witness Linsanity last season? In the midst of his crazy run, Lin got injured and missed an away game at Chicago.

 
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While I am fine with Pop's coaching methods, you clearly must see a difference between Lin getting injured (unintentional, we can only hope) and Pop sending home 4 of his core players (intentional)

You must also see a difference between the aforementioned Pop situation (intentional) and the Wizards and Cats unintentionally (my hope is that they're actually trying to rebuild their franchises, and at least in the Cats, I can see that; I like Rich Cho) being bad teams.


Is stern saying he'll fine the spurs ridiculous? Yes. Their schedule sucked as of late, and Miami has a two game week (to the chagrin of heat fantasy BB player owners everywhere)

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Kyosukee on November 30, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Kyosukee:
While I am fine with Pop's coaching methods, you clearly must see a difference between Lin getting injured (unintentional, we can only hope) and Pop sending home 4 of his core players (intentional)

You must also see a difference between the aforementioned Pop situation (intentional) and the Wizards and Cats unintentionally (my hope is that they're actually trying to rebuild their franchises, and at least in the Cats, I can see that; I like Rich Cho) being bad teams.


Is stern saying he'll fine the spurs ridiculous? Yes. Their schedule sucked as of late, and Miami has a two game week (to the chagrin of heat fantasy BB player owners everywhere)


I can differentiate between a coaching decision and an injury. But at the end of the day, the disappointment for the fans is the same; and apparently, the fans' perspective is a primary impetus for Stern.

The Wizards and Bobcats are not unintentionally bad. I feel sorry for the fans there.

 

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