posted April 30, 2000 12:40 AM         

C.3.Ruling.7 - If you have two creatures with "This creature can't attack unless another creature attacks", then you can declare both of them and have them meet each other's requirement. [CompRules 99/04/23]

Also regenrating a creature removes it from combat....

G.29.3 - Regeneration is defined as "The next time this permanent would be destroyed this turn, instead remove all damage from it, tap it, and (if it's in combat) remove it from combat." [CompRules 99/11/01]

posted April 30, 2000 07:58 AM            

kuah: as I said above, death pit offering says as it comes into play, not when it comes into play. and opal titan says when an OPPONENT plays a CREATURE spell. meaning 2 things.. when you replenish enchantments back, its YOU not the opponent causing the enchantments (or creatures if you have opalesence), and it has to be a creature spell (summon for the older cards) that triggers opal titan.

viscosity: here are the steps of the combat phase
active (attacking player) declares an attack
attacking player gets priority to the stack, if passed, defending player gets priority to stack
after both passed, attacking player declares his attackers and taps them.
attacking then defending player gets priority to the stack (may use assassin here)
defending player declares blockers
attacking then defending players get priority to the stack (may use assassin here also)
combat damage is assigned and put on the stack
attacking and defending players get priority to the stack (may use assassin here again)
stack resolves with combat damage on the bottom, end of combat phase,
attacking and defending players get priority to the stack

so u have 3 places to use the assassin to kill the tapped creature, and one of them is before you declare blocking. also as alikser said, regeneration does remove a creature from combat.

so if you did it before you declared blockers, then no the attacking creature wouldn't deal combat damage to you

Yawgmoth's Lackey: Well.. nothing in magic happens simultaneously ever.
since its player A's turn, to move out of a phase or step, all players in the game would have to pass (yield) priority to the stack), so if A is doing nothing and wants to proceed, he yields priority (priority is yielded according to turn sequence) so player B (assuming he's next in turn) gets priority, he may pass or choose to bolt player C
if he does, player C gets to respond and bolt player B back, if stack resolves, player B dies however if B passed priority to C and C then choose to bolt B, B would get a chance to respond and bolt player C back, stack resolves and C would die.

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posted April 30, 2000 12:22 PM            

and yes, regeneration is a destruction replacement/prevention effect. there is the regular destroy, and lethal damage, regeneration prevents the creature from being placed into the graveyard from either effect.

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posted April 30, 2000 04:43 PM            

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posted May 01, 2000 08:22 PM            

the penalty guidelines is not only a thing the judges follow, pls take some time to read it and try to avoid anything that would force a judge to issue a penalty.

anyways.. here's the link to my article. another thing, for the younger players out there, just because you are younger, doesnt mean u'll get away with things. a judge should not let things slide due to age. experience can be a factor, but age should never be.

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posted May 01, 2000 09:34 PM            

I have four questions.

1. I attack with my taunting elf and deepwood wolverine. The defending player two wall of glares for blocking. All creatures are suppose to block taunting elf if able but the wall of glare can block as many creatures as it want. so which ablity takes effect?

2. I am at three life with my Volrath the fallen in the pot. He attack with a silverback with lure on it and a Verdant Force.(He has another opponent he has to kill.) He regenerates the silverback so it does not die. does this mean that since the regeneration removed it from combat that i can block verdant force? Please tell me cause my volrath the fallen is up for grabs betweem us.

3. I attack and after blocking is declared i play hatred and pay all but one of my life to kill my opponent. But unfortunatly he counters. He says that i still lose the life since it is a cost of the spell. but i say that the cost was five and i don't lose the life till the spell resolves. Who is right?

4. Same as above but he deals one damage to me with a rootwater hunter. The spell resolves and i die but does he die to?

Sincerly,
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posted May 02, 2000 07:22 AM            

1. the walls have to be declared as blockers to the elf, yes however since they can block any amount of creatures, taunting elf doesnt stop wall of glare from blocking other creatures thats also attacking.

2. no, you can only declare blocking once, and the silverback would only die and be regenerated after combat damage is dealt.. for further reading of how combat phase works, follow the MTG Rules link in my signature.

3. this is how hatred reads from the oracle:

HATRED
3BB
Instant
As an additional cost to play Hatred, pay any amount of life.
Target creature gets +X/+0 until end of turn, where X is the amount of life paid this way.

it says as an additional cost fo play hatred. meaning the life is paid on declaration of the spell being cast. you lose life even if hatred is countered. its a cost of the spell, not a sacrifice on the resolution.

4. well he deals you the damage, your spell resolves and you will be at 0 life, as soon as someone is at 0 life, next time priority to the stack is checked, you die. the game just stops right there.

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posted May 03, 2000 03:49 AM         

What if two players say I conced at the exact same time!

posted May 03, 2000 07:00 AM            

covetous: no you would not lose.
I'll first explain the stack then the steps of the combat phase.

stack -- its a "zone" just like play, hand, graveyard, removed from the game, etc. its a place where a spell being cast or an ability being used or triggered is placed. for abilities use a psuedospell, meaning treat it as a spell but without the card. now.. anything that happens in the game that's an ability, triggered event, spell goes on the stack and it resolves by whichever one was last put onto it.. you keep placing effects/spells on the stack until neither player wants to add any more and the effects resolve from top to bottom (last one added to first one added)

now the steps of the combat phase.
since this is at a place where blockers have already been declared, I shall skip to there.

you have declared blockers by activiating the githu encampment to block the phyrexian negator while he only has the negator and swamp in play. here is what happens.

you have declared blocker, now he, the attacking player has priority to do something, if not, then you. if you dont either, move on to assign damage.
now since the githu encampment has first strike, you will be doing the assign damage step twice. at the first time, all first strikers assign their damage. meaning you assign 2 damage to the negator. the assigned damage goes onto the stack, attacking player may wish to do something, if not, you may. if neither player wants to do anything, the stack and combat damage resolves. at this time the negator triggers because it has been assigned damage, and your opponent needs to fulfill the conditions, which is sac perms = to the damage the negator has taken. since the negator has left play, it has been removed from combat. and since it got removed from combat before it got to assign damage, it doesnt deal any.

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posted May 03, 2000 10:10 PM            

judge generally are familiar with the more obsecure specific rulings such as the humility and opalesence "combo" (more like a game loss, a warning and some other things hehehe)

I do believe one of the rule books from wizards has the penalty guidelines in it, that may have some specific rulings but I'm not sure.

as for putting time into this, its not really a lot of time. also helps me keep in practice should these situations come up during tournaments.

and lastly.. just seeing if this post could break some posting records

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posted May 03, 2000 11:19 PM            

I have a link to wizards' judge cert page, on the right side of the page is the link to D'Angelo's rulings summary.. look under either humility or opalesence.. the answer you seek is there.. tho I warn you, the head judge present may rule as he wishes in a tournament.

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