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coolio Member	posted May 04, 2000 01:55 PM Richie: well this is what happens.. you activiate the wumpus 14 times.. however you want to do it.. in response to each one, or to let the first resolve then go for the second.. etc.. either way.. u'll die first.. for either condition (tho it only works in the first way) when the wumpus leaves play, u have a max of 2 more left to resolve before you die (if either player is at 0 when priority is given to any player, state based effects check and the player at 0 or less is dead.) MTG_Addict01: if you mean casting yawgmoth's will.. then no, the ritual is removed from the game after you've casted the will because will specifically says cards get removed from the game. й also.. if you want an answer to your questions.. check back.. I'm not gonna email ppl individually... anymore hrmm woo hoo.. 100th reply! __________________ Reference Page: www.magictraders.com/reflists/coolio.html DCI Certified Level I Judge Judge Certification & Training Oracle Card Reference D'Angelo Rulings Summary MTG Rules Got Magic:The Gathering Questions? Get them answered here. My Judge Article [This message has been edited by coolio (edited 05-04-2000).]
Richie Member	posted May 04, 2000 02:04 PM If we were both at 3 and i did it 3 times (wamps ability) with a worship i would win right? __________________ Refs Think your Deck can beat my Bounce... Don't make me Bifrucate 550+ Posts and Counting
coolio Member	posted May 04, 2000 03:29 PM yes.. because on the resolution of the damage, it checks.. wumpus is still in play, tho heading for the graveyard, tho at the time you took the damage.. u did control a creature.. so if you were both at 3 and u activated wumpus 3 times u'd win and opponent lose.. unless of course wumpus died before the third "pestilence" went off й __________________ Reference Page: www.magictraders.com/reflists/coolio.html DCI Certified Level I Judge Judge Certification & Training Oracle Card Reference D'Angelo Rulings Summary MTG Rules Got Magic:The Gathering Questions? Get them answered here. My Judge Article
Imagenyuss Member	posted May 04, 2000 03:47 PM If i dis-enchanted null bruch and my oponent used null bruches ability to counter it would it be destroyed or would the disenchant be countered? __________________ shut up because Im a genyuss. I cannot quench my obsesion with Enchant Worlds.
Fooath Member	posted May 04, 2000 03:53 PM It would be countered.
Solar Member	posted May 04, 2000 04:49 PM What happens when you spirit link, Pariah, or false Demise an opponents creature?
Richie Member	posted May 04, 2000 05:26 PM Wow, this is almost the biggest post ever! __________________ Refs Think your Deck can beat my Bounce... Don't make me Bifrucate 550+ Posts and Counting
coolio Member	posted May 04, 2000 05:30 PM Imagenyuss: it would be countered, since the null brooch isnt destroyed until disenchant resolves. if they counter the disenchant, it hasnt resolved so the null brooch will stay in play. Solar: I answered on your post. Richie: its getting there.. й __________________ Reference Page: www.magictraders.com/reflists/coolio.html DCI Certified Level I Judge Judge Certification & Training Oracle Card Reference D'Angelo Rulings Summary MTG Rules Got Magic:The Gathering Questions? Get them answered here. My Judge Article
Goblin_Snowman Member	posted May 04, 2000 05:37 PM I have a cowardice in play and I cessation my opponents creature. does the cessation pop back to my hand or does the target trigger first and whatever creature I targeted gets returned and I lose the cessation?
coolio Member	posted May 04, 2000 05:42 PM u'd lose cessation because once you declare target (upon the declaration of casting the spell) you choose something, as soon as its targeted, the creature "bounces" back to the owners hand. and since cessation never hit play, you dont get to return it to your hand. й
coolio Member	posted May 05, 2000 09:43 AM hrmm from here on.. I'll post interesting clippings from the DCI listserv.. questions that might come up sometime in the future or have in the past.. this one I'm almost certain will come up in the near future.. I'll rummage through older daily listserv emails for more interesting stuff later. Subject: Re: TangleWire Question Question: > > I'm uncertain how Tanglewire works if it leaves play during a players' > upkeep. I've heard conflicting answers from various judges about > whether or not Tanglewire will work based on "last known value" or not. > > Example: > > John has a Tanglewire in play with 4 counters. During Sally's turn, > she disenchants the Tanglewire. Does she tap 4 or 0 other permanents? > > or > > Lee has a Tanglewire with 4 counters and a Goblin Welder in play. > During Lee's upkeep, Lee puts tapping on the stack, then fading on the > stack, let's the fading resolve, then Lee uses the Welder to change > Tanglewire into a Masticore. Does Lee tap 3 or 0 permanents? After a bunch of discussion between the Netreps/Rules Team, we've (more or less) decided that the rule is "last known information" not "last known characteristics," so the Wire's ability will remember how many counters were on the Tangle Wire when it left play. So the answer is "4 permanents" in the first case and "3 permanents" in the second. Dan (LVL 4 NetRep) this one has been discussed before I remember in another post... Subject: Re: Plow Under Q. Question: > > Quick Q. > > Who gets to choose the order of the lands put on top of a player's > library with Plow Under, the caster or the victim? The victim. Dan Subject: Parallax Wave The following replies are made by a lvl 3 NetRep Question: >6. Can Parallax Wave remove itself if it's a creature? Yes, it can, but it won't _ever_ come back. There are times when this can be useful to do. Subject: Enchantment on a Deadly Insect? Question: >Q: A Deadly Insect is in play under your control. You opponent plays a Charmed >Griffin. (card texts) If you have an enchantment in your hand, can you put it >on the Deadly Insect? >A: Yes. The enchantment is going from your hand directly into play. It is not >a spell because you didn't cast (play) it. It's not an ability of a card >already in play. Thus, It's legal to put it on a Deadly Insect. Correct. Subject: Academy Rector under another's control Question: >Q: You have an Academy Rector in play. Your opponent Dominates it. The Rector >then goes to the graveyard while under your opponent's control. >a) How chooses whether or not to play the Rector's ability: you or your >opponent? >b) When is the choice to remove the Rector from the game made? When the >ability triggers or when it resolves? >c) Can someone respond to the rector's ability by removing it from the game >with a Rapid Decay and by doing so prevent the player from searching for an >enchantment? >A: >a) The card text for Academy Rector says "you". Therefore the Rector's >controller has the option of removing it from the game. If your opponent >controls the Rector, even if you own it, he has the option of removing it from >the game. >b) The choice is made when the ability resolves. >c) Yes. Because the choice of whether or not to remove the Rector from the >game is made when the ability resolves, there is a chance for any player to >respond to the ability by removing it from the game. Note that a player must >respond to the ability _before_ the know whether or not the Rector is going to >be removed from the game anyway. If the Rector leaves the graveyard due to >some other effect before the ability resolves, it will not be there to remove, >and that player will not be able to remove it to search for a card. Correct. Subject: Difference of discarding a card and discarding a hand Question: >Q: You have no cards in your hand. >a) If an ability require you to "discard a card" as part of its activation >cost, can you play that ability? >b) If an ability require you to "discard your hand" as part of its activation >cost, can you play that ability? >A: >a) No. To discard a card you must have a card in your hand to discard. >b) Yes. If you have 0 cards in your hand, you may discard your hand of 0 cards. Correct. --anyways.. gonna stop for now as I figured its a rather large post already.. gonna browse my other month's worth of listserv stuff later.. hope this has been helpful.. if not.. lmk and I wont continue it tomorrow й
dans135 Member	posted May 05, 2000 12:02 PM OK, I started playing Magic just after Destiny came out, so I'm not too informed when it comes to mechanics from earlier sets. How exactly does Buyback work? Do you have to pay the buyback as part of the casting cost? If not, can you buyback a card that is in your graveyard? (That would be really cool, but it seems broken.) Does the card return to your hand when you pay for it, or when the spell resolves? I need to know because I want to be able to spend 20 mana to cast Elvish Fury 4 times during combat.
Richie Member	posted May 05, 2000 05:30 PM Just checking but when a token crature dies, it hits the graveyard and then is removed from the game right? __________________ Refs Think your Deck can beat my Bounce... Don't make me Bifrucate 550+ Posts and Counting
Motio Member	posted May 05, 2000 05:08 PM The text of Lifline reads: Whenever a creature is put into the graveyard and a creature is in play, put that creature into play at end of turn. (or something very close to that.) Does this mean that if, say, I discard a Thorn Elemental to a Stampede Driver, I have essentially cast a Thorny for 1 mana? Or does the discarded card count not as a creature, but a "creature card"?
Quicksilver Member	posted May 06, 2000 02:25 AM Hey I got one, I hope this isn't stupid If you flicker a Saporling Burst what happens? Do all the counters already creatures die, or do it get back all the counters it once had? How does it work? LMK, thanks.
dans135 Member	posted May 06, 2000 03:33 AM Oooh, hey, I know these.... Richie: You are correct. Motio: You're right when you say the card is still a card, and Lifeline will not trigger. Quicksilver: When you Flicker Saproling Burst, the Burst first leaves the game, and any saproling tokens it has already 'spawned' are instantly destroyed. Then the Burst returns with a full set of fading counters. [This message has been edited by dans135 (edited 05-06-2000).]
coolio Member	posted May 06, 2000 04:11 AM okie.. dans135: buyback is paid upon casting of the spell and means if its successful, the spell, instead of going to the graveyard goes back to your hand. yes u can spend mana for casting elvish fury 4 times in battle. richie: yes the tokens make the zone change first then is immediately gone motio: lifeline got errata'd rather quickly right after it first came out this is the current wording for lifeline LIFELINE 5 Artifact Whenever a creature is put into a graveyard and another creature is in play, return the first creature from that graveyard to play under its owner's control at end of turn. tho the card should say creature from play... however.. yes.. the discarded thorn elemental would only count as a creature card, and not a creature since it hasnt been in play. quicksilver: if you flicker the saproling burst, it does leave play but immediately comes back in. so upon leaving play for a brief second, it still kills the tokens that were on the table. however upon coming back in, it goes trigger its own comes into play and put new fade counters on also. й __________________ Reference Page: www.magictraders.com/reflists/coolio.html DCI Certified Level I Judge Judge Certification & Training Oracle Card Reference D'Angelo Rulings Summary MTG Rules Got Magic:The Gathering Questions? Get them answered here. My Judge Article
Quicksilver Member	posted May 06, 2000 07:58 AM Thats what I thought but wasn't positive thanks for the info, if I think of anymore I'll let you know.
deathling Member	posted May 06, 2000 01:24 PM Hey, another question for you. I have out spellbook and a necro. I necro for some amount. Since I dont have a discard phase what happens to the necroed cards? Thanks, death
Richie Member	posted May 06, 2000 02:04 PM Deathling: Spellbook received errata that says Spellbook reads: "You have no maximum hand size" so you would get the cards .
Imagenyuss Member	posted May 06, 2000 05:46 PM I know i've probably asked this like a million times before (more like 4 or 5 times) but how and where or what site can i take a test or aply for a test to be a dci judge because when i grow up (lol) i want to be just like you. {no not really I'm not that weird} __________________ shut up because Im a genyuss. I cannot quench my obsesion with Enchant Worlds.
coolio Member	posted May 06, 2000 06:00 PM uh.. there's a link in my signature.. and insulting me wont get u anywhere.. as for the test.. its no longer online like the old arena test... too bad.. it was fun here was one of the questions: If player A attacks player B with a first striking sengir vampire, how many scryb sprites would player B (barring the 4 card rule) need to block with to kill the vampire? a) 5 b) 6 c) 12 d) 8 there's is also an alternate answer (using a creature ability, no prot's) see if u can figure it out й __________________ Reference Page: www.magictraders.com/reflists/coolio.html DCI Certified Level I Judge Judge Certification & Training Oracle Card Reference D'Angelo Rulings Summary MTG Rules Got Magic:The Gathering Questions? Get them answered here. My Judge Article
Kworb Member	posted May 06, 2000 06:24 PM I just saw that current wording of Lifeline but it's different from mine... On my Lifeline it says your graveyard so it would only count for me But I see they changed it and now Lifeline sucks
coolio Member	posted May 06, 2000 09:23 PM lifeline got an errata VERY soon after it came out... the printed version was way too one sided.. therefore.. the errata й
Alkiser Member	posted May 07, 2000 01:19 AM When somene using an Icy or Opposition taps my mana/creatures durring my "upkeep" I can use abilites on those creatures in response, right? Also is thier anyway you cant use the abilites in response?

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