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Topic: Need a Ruling? come on in.. part 2.. the quest for answers.. hehe =)
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guenhwyvar
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posted June 18, 2000 01:51 PM
Goblin_Snowman: The current player chooses first and reveals their card, then the opponent chooses and reveals their card. Both cards are then put into play simultaneously. Mageman: It would be green until the end of the turn. : Does not prevent a spell or ability from adding color to permanents after this effect is applied. [Barclay 99/02/09] Maro1: You didn't play a creature spell so the Skittering Horror wouldn't bite it. I think this is right, but I'm still a bit shady on some of the come into play abilities. Selvaxri: Yes, because Parallax Wave returns to play all cards, not all creatures, that it removed from the game. __________________
-Guenhwyvar
Member of G.A.B Blue Team
and Judge in training.
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maro1
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posted June 18, 2000 02:18 PM
If my opponent plays Dominate and takes control of my Skittering Skirge, and the next turn I cast another Skittering Skirge, what happens to the first Skirge?
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Richie
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posted June 18, 2000 05:14 PM
can I misdirect a final fortune to my opponent using misdirection? Will this work?__________________
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mr morfling
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posted June 18, 2000 05:15 PM
I enchant the same creature whit Pharia an Trecherous Link. Where is the damage dealt to me?
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Master
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posted June 18, 2000 05:20 PM
mr morphling: you pick where that damage ends up..it creates a loop of damage and you have to end it..and you pick where you want to end it. and its called paria not pharia__________________
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TemptingElf
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posted June 18, 2000 07:23 PM
Hey, coolio, I haven't seen you on IM since we last talked, so I thought that you might like to know that I passed my judging test. Thanks for helping me out when we talked!Oh, and by the way, with regards to your question maro1, you no longer control the first Skittering Skirge, so it is not sacked when you play another Skittering Skirge. For the Dominated one to be sacked, its controller has to play a creature spell, not the person who originally cast it. For all intents and purposes, you no longer own that Skittering Skirge that was Dominated.
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guenhwyvar
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posted June 19, 2000 07:29 AM
Richie: Nope, won't work because final fortune doesn't target anything.Tempting Elf: Grats! So, how bad was it? 
A friend and I are going soon, but I have a final this week.  Accursed 6-wk summer classes and trying to get ahead. __________________
-Guenhwyvar
Member of G.A.B Blue Team
and Judge in training.
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Kworb
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posted June 19, 2000 07:36 AM
Where is coolio anywayis he too lazy 
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yeom
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posted June 19, 2000 07:45 AM
with demonic consultation and divining witch, do I reveal the 1st 6 cards, or are teh removed without seeing them?
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purplepat
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posted June 19, 2000 07:51 AM
Tempting Elf - Are you sure about that answer regarding Maro1's Dominated Skittering Skirge? While I agree that Maro1 is no longer the "controller" of the Dominated Skittering Skirge, he is still the "owner". That is why the Brand/Thieves Auction combo is a decent one.
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Master
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posted June 19, 2000 07:58 AM
no she is right, (im a judge now! whoo hoo)
it says when YOU cast another creature spell, scrafice skittering skirge. and if he gained controll of it, the YOU part of it would be refering to him now. so if you cast onother creature, the other player would not have to sacrafice the skirge.and the theives auction combo, says permanents you own...this is just controll, not own. as far as i know there is not a card that lets you gain ownership of a card..but i could be wrong.
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[Edited 1 times, lastly by Master on June 19, 2000]
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purplepat
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posted June 19, 2000 08:13 AM
Master - I was not questioning her judgement regarding the comes-into-play effect of the second Skirge....merely her last sentence:"For all intents and purposes, you no longer own that Skittering Skirge that was Dominated." My point was that he does still OWN the Skirge, but does not control it.
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Master
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posted June 19, 2000 09:15 AM
oh, very sorry about that.__________________
•·.÷.·•- ----•[ im tha masta]•---- -•·.÷.·• im me at: Mr Jingle Jangle
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Raker
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posted June 19, 2000 10:45 AM
If I cast Symbiosis and chose my two targets, then in response my opponent kills one of the creatures, with lets say a shock, What happens?
Does the remaining creature get the +2/+2 bonus or do I choose a new target or does the spell fizzle?
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Alkiser
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posted June 19, 2000 11:32 AM
if my oppent sneaks a ceature (sneak attack) and i disencant it in responce, what happens to the snuck creature?
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yonyb
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posted June 19, 2000 02:09 PM
Hey I got one.Let's say I got morpling (I wish but nevermind..)
I pay 5 to give it -5/+5.
It's now 0/8.
If now I pay 1 to give it +1/-1 does it become 1/7 or 0/7 ?? THX
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nebulite
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posted June 19, 2000 02:14 PM
My opponent is playing Replenish and has an Opalessence, Parallax Wave and Tide and a bunch of other enchantments in play.
What happens when I play Humility? __________________
If you are reading this than you've probably realised that I couldn't think of anything else to say.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by nebulite on June 19, 2000]
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Master
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posted June 19, 2000 02:15 PM
as far as i know, you cant pump it below 0, you can only make it a 0/6. __________________
•·.÷.·•- ----•[ im tha masta]•---- -•·.÷.·• im me at: Mr Jingle Jangle
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Master
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posted June 19, 2000 02:19 PM
as far as i know, you cant pump it below 0, you can only make it a 0/6. __________________
•·.÷.·•- ----•[ im tha masta]•---- -•·.÷.·• im me at: Mr Jingle Jangle
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TemptingElf
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posted June 19, 2000 06:05 PM
When I made the statement about your opponent owning the creature for all intents and purposed, I meant in the case of the "sacrifice when you cast a creature spell" effect. There are only a few ways in Magic to actually OWN your opponent's cards (Bronze Tablet, etc). I sort of figured that people would use common sense and that it would be understood.
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Alkiser
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posted June 21, 2000 12:21 PM
Hello! We need answers!
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urzaandvolrath
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posted June 21, 2000 12:24 PM
What exactly does heightened awareness do? I'm not sure I undersatnd the card.
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coolio
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posted June 21, 2000 09:48 PM
kworb.. u try to work on a job that's 2-10pm.. with least 2 hr travel one way.. see how u like it.. so shut up and stay outta my posts.yeom: removed from the game pile sits faced up.. unless the spell/ability specifically says to set it aside or remove it facing down. purplepat: for all purposes of the ability.. he is no longer the "owner" of the ability of the skirge. raker: u need 2 legal targets upon casting.. once they are declared.. it doesnt matter.. if one dies.. the other would still get the +2/+2.. least that is how I'd rule it.. since D'Angelo's ruling doesnt have anything specific to this alkiser: the creature still comes out..
rule 402.6 states that the destruction of an ability or effect's source once the ability/effect is on the stack doesnt remove the ability/effect from the stack. yonyb: it becomes 0/7.. its technically a -2/8.. however.. since we dont have negative numbers in magic.. we look at it as a 0.. however.. it should be treated as a -2.. so when u add 1 power back.. it'll be at -1.. still 0. nebulite: I dont answer humility and opalesence questions. urzaandvolrath: think of as a howling mine.. for u only. alkiser: see the first comment I made..
as u can see.. I've been rather busy.. © __________________
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Goblin_Snowman
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posted June 21, 2000 10:29 PM
I have 2 things to say Morgan 
1)thank you for taking time from an obviously busy social and work life to answer our piddly questions
2) I think it is time to open your 3rd rulings post __________________
Tracy: Shhhhhhhh..did you hear something? Jeremy: Yeah it was the chili!
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Drengar
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posted June 22, 2000 11:01 AM
k question:what if there is a Dual Nature in play and i play a deranged hermit how many Squirl tokens come into play? __________________
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