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Topic: Need a Ruling? come on in.. part 2.. the quest for answers.. hehe =)
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Motio Member
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posted June 12, 2000 09:34 AM
I have an untapped, non-sick Copper-Leaf Angel and a Sheltering Prayers in play, as well as four lands. My opponent casts a Devastate targetting one of my lands. If I put that on the stack and sac a land to the Angel, does the Devastate find a new target, because he can no longer target my lands? or does it fizzle?Do token creatures count as creature cards? More specifically, does a Dual Nature copy my squirrel tokens, too, when I play a Deranged Hermit? Can you Misdirection a Misdirection to target itself? Sorry if that one makes you crazy, Morgan. *evil laugh*  __________________ I shall allow no man to belittle my soul by making me hate him. -Booker T. Washington (1856-1915)
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guenhwyvar Member
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posted June 12, 2000 10:30 AM
Swoop Ryder: You can only pay for 1 of the Masticores. You have to put all 3 on the stack and let it resolve from there *assuming there are no other effects as well.* Since you can't put squee's effect on the stack twice he'll only come back once and pay for 1 Masticore.Hello: You can only regenerate a creature that has taken lethal damage. Motio: Devastate "fizzles" as it's target is now gone, regardless of the Sheltering Prayers. Creature tokens are not creature cards. K.24.1 - Token creatures are in all ways like normal card-based permanents, except they are not cards for effects which look for cards. [CompRules 99/04/23]
You can't misdirect a spell to target itself, but you could misdirect a spell to the misdirection. So misdirection (A) could be targeted by Misdirection (B) to target Misdirection (B), but Misdirection (A) could NOT be targeted by Misdirection (B) to target misdirection (A). Got all that? Good. . .now where'd I put my hammer. . .
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purplepat Member
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posted June 12, 2000 12:10 PM
If I have a Tragic Poet enchanted by Pattern of Rebirth, then tap and sacrifice the Poet to return a target enchantment from my graveyard to my hand, can I target the Pattern of Rebirth?
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Selvaxri Member
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posted June 12, 2000 03:47 PM
i cast Conspiracy and name legends, and donate it to my opponent. he has 4 preists and 4 sentinels (llanowar). do all but one die? what if i name mongoose, can i play double the legends? lmk...
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Raker Member
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posted June 12, 2000 05:19 PM
This is kind of like Selvaxri's Question. If I donate a Conspiracy where WALLS was named, can his creatures attack?
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maro1 Member
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posted June 12, 2000 05:23 PM
If I have a Cursed Totem in play can my opponent use Rootwater's Thief's ability to search through my deck?
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DarkDamion Member
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posted June 12, 2000 05:40 PM
Umm ok I have a Thrashing Wumpus out and my opponent has a Negator out. If I say Pesty for lets say 4, it really doesnt matter, just more than one, can my opponent sac the Negator for the 1st dmg and he doesnt have to sac 4 permanents??__________________ "Sticks and stones break my bones, but whips and chains excite me." My ref list: http://www.magictraders.com/reflists/DarkDamion.html AIM name: DarkDamionX ICQ#: 64273007 Email: darkdamion@hotmail.com
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guenhwyvar Member
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posted June 12, 2000 09:15 PM
Purplepat: No, since the Pattern of Rebirth isn't in the graveyard to be targeted.Selvaxri: If you donate it, all but one would die, I belive, since the game still remembers which one came into play first, even thou they all gained the legendery status at the same time. As to creature type- "x", this means that the creatures are no longer legends, and you can have multiples. This can remove the Legend creature type, and therefore the Legendary status, from a creature you control. [bethmo 99/09/22] Raker: If you choose Wall, then your creatures cannot attack. [DeLaney 10/17/99] So yes, donating a conspiracy w/"wall" named is a very not-nice thing to do. Maro1: Yes. DarkDamion: Let's assume you did a 2 point wumpus. . . It woudl go like this. 1) Activate T.W. *thrashing wumpus* and put it's ability on the stack. 2) In response you active T.W.'s ability again, putting a second damage on the stack. 3) For simplicity's sake let's assume no other spells or abilities are played. 4) The first point of damage gets assigned to all creatures, and the negator's ability gets put on the stack. 5) Your opponent has to sacrifice 1 permanent, let's choose the negator. 6) Negator goes to the graveyard. 7) The second point of damage is assigned to everything, but there is no negator in play so no more permanents are sacrificed. Hope this helps/is right. __________________ -Guenhwyvar Member of G.A.B Blue Team and Judge in training.
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purplepat Member
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posted June 13, 2000 06:10 AM
I have an Avatar of Woe as the only card in my graveyard. I cast Search for Survivors, which requires me to shuffle my graveyard, and then an opponent chooses a card from it. If it is a creature card, it is put into play; otherwise, it is removed from the game. My question is: Upon casting Search for Survivors, does it immediately go to the graveyard where it could be one of the cards my opponent randomly chooses, or does it wait until the random card is chosen before going to the graveyard?
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coolio Member
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posted June 13, 2000 06:17 AM
maro1 and guenhwyvar answer to totem and rootwater thief question is noAffects anything with an activation cost, which is anything written as Cost: effect, or as you may pay <-cost-> to do <-effect->. [D'Angelo 99/05/01] purplepat: the final resolution of a spell.. more specifically instants and sorceries is put into the graveyard... not as its resolving. so the search goes to the graveyard after the random selection. © __________________ Reference Page: www.magictraders.com/reflists/coolio.html DCI Certified Level I Judge Judge Certification & Training Oracle Card Reference D'Angelo Rulings Summary MTG Rules My Judge Article Rules Question Post #1 Rules Question Post #2
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Mageman Member
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posted June 13, 2000 11:31 AM
with thran lens, are the creatures considered artifact creatures because they are colorless or the same as what they were before it was casted?
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krazykid1331 unregistered
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posted June 13, 2000 11:38 AM
Hello, Can you answer my question ? Does Black Vise work on all of your opponets or just 1 ? If it is just 1 than what happens when that player dies ? I am asking because I was going to make a deck for playing with more than one person. Thanks, Clinton
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Kworb Member
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posted June 13, 2000 11:40 AM
If there's an Engineered Plague on Wizard and someone plays a Prodigal Sorcerer, does it come into play?__________________ You know, I know you know I know you know.
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Slim_Shady unregistered
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posted June 13, 2000 12:15 PM
I tried asking Coolio this in e-mail, but he never replied :P. What affect does Mana Web have on the opponent now that the evil stack has been introduced? It used to be one of the most broken cards before the stack, but it as released before 6th ed, so exactly what does it do? Is it a useless card now? __________________ Dica dica dica dica Slim Shady, I'm sick of him, look at him! Grabbin his you know what, flickin off you know who-The Real Slim Shady G.A.B. Vice Admiral(Will have all my refs confirmed soon)
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guenhwyvar Member
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posted June 14, 2000 09:55 AM
Mageman: They are colorless, not artifact.Slim_Shady: The stack has always been around. Mana web will tap those lands that your opponent hasn't already tapped, assuming they produce the same mana that is. It's useful against blue decks, who won't really be able to cast anything on their turn and then cast counterspells on your turn, for example. Krazykid1331: No official multiplayer rules, play it how you like it. Kworb: I'll tell you when I get back to MY computer and get get all the card texts. __________________ -Guenhwyvar Member of G.A.B Blue Team and Judge in training.
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CoolHomie unregistered
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posted June 14, 2000 01:09 PM
During my main phase my opponent shocks me. In response, can I play douse and activate it to counter his shock? Thanks for the help
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Traitor Member
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posted June 14, 2000 01:29 PM
coolhomieI think this is right. if the douse is already IN PLAY then you can use it in response. But since it is an enchantment you cannot put it into play in response to the shock for its not an instant. correct me if im wrong. magic is wierd. __________________ Fear Me
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guenhwyvar Member
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posted June 14, 2000 01:44 PM
Coolhomie: Traitor gave the write answer. Kudos to him. Enchantments, creatures, artifacts and lands can't be cast/played normally if there is anythin on the stack.__________________ -Guenhwyvar Member of G.A.B Blue Team and Judge in training.
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Yawgmoth's Lackey Member
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posted June 14, 2000 02:46 PM
Okey Dokey... Lets look at Cho-Manno. It counts as both a rebel and a legend, the Rebel Informer counts as both a rebel and a mercenary.. Now would ..Oh I dont know.. A Black Knight(summon black knight) count as both a Black and a Knight? Yes... Perplexing..  __________________ cmoore@visi.net
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Yawgmoth's Lackey Member
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posted June 14, 2000 03:06 PM
Er..NM.. It just says Knight.. DOH!__________________ cmoore@visi.net
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*Tedman* Member
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posted June 14, 2000 03:26 PM
Good one!
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swoop ryder unregistered
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posted June 14, 2000 06:54 PM
in regards to a post near the top of page 7 (I think), Kevin, you said that you can only regenerate a creature that has been assigned leathal damage. In my town however, there is something called a "regeneration shield" which supposedly lasts till the end of turn. So under the "regeneration shield" rule as I heard it you can pay the regeneration effect then if you need it you can use it. Is this true?
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guenhwyvar Member
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posted June 14, 2000 07:54 PM
Good call Swoop Ryder. G.29.Ruling.3 - You can play a regeneration spell or ability even if the permanent is not being destroyed at this time and has no indication that it will be destroyed in the near future. [D'Angelo 99/05/01]However, the creature will not tap or be affected by any of the regeneration effects until the regeneration actually occurs. *when it takes lethal damage, for example*
__________________ -Guenhwyvar Member of G.A.B Blue Team and Judge in training.
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Orinn Member
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posted June 15, 2000 03:15 AM
Can i play a Laccolith Rig on an opponent's creature? If so, since i control the enchantment, can i decide whether or not to use the ability of the rig when that creature is blocked? (This came up in a sealed deck league.)Will counters from Thrive stay on a creature that becomes something other than a creature? (Chimeric Idol, opal Acrolith, Soul Sculptor raw material, etc.) __________________ This is my signature.
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Orinn Member
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posted June 15, 2000 03:17 AM
Can i play a Laccolith Rig on an opponent's creature? If so, since i control the enchantment, can i decide whether or not to use the ability of the rig when that creature is blocked? (This came up in a sealed deck league.)Will counters from Thrive stay on a creature that becomes something other than a creature? (Chimeric Idol, opal Acrolith, Soul Sculptor raw material, etc.) __________________ This is my signature.
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