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Motio
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posted June 12, 2000 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Motio   Click Here to Email Motio     
I have an untapped, non-sick Copper-Leaf Angel and a Sheltering Prayers in play, as well as four lands.
My opponent casts a Devastate targetting one of my lands. If I put that on the stack and sac a land to the Angel, does the Devastate find a new target, because he can no longer target my lands? or does it fizzle?

Do token creatures count as creature cards? More specifically, does a Dual Nature copy my squirrel tokens, too, when I play a Deranged Hermit?

Can you Misdirection a Misdirection to target itself? Sorry if that one makes you crazy, Morgan. *evil laugh*

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posted June 12, 2000 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for guenhwyvar     
Swoop Ryder: You can only pay for 1 of the Masticores. You have to put all 3 on the stack and let it resolve from there *assuming there are no other effects as well.* Since you can't put squee's effect on the stack twice he'll only come back once and pay for 1 Masticore.

Hello: You can only regenerate a creature that has taken lethal damage.


Motio: Devastate "fizzles" as it's target is now gone, regardless of the Sheltering Prayers.
Creature tokens are not creature cards.
K.24.1 - Token creatures are in all ways like normal card-based permanents, except they are not cards for effects which look for cards. [CompRules 99/04/23]


You can't misdirect a spell to target itself, but you could misdirect a spell to the misdirection. So misdirection (A) could be targeted by Misdirection (B) to target Misdirection (B), but Misdirection (A) could NOT be targeted by Misdirection (B) to target misdirection (A). Got all that? Good. . .now where'd I put my hammer. . .

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posted June 12, 2000 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for purplepat   Click Here to Email purplepat     
If I have a Tragic Poet enchanted by Pattern of Rebirth, then tap and sacrifice the Poet to return a target enchantment from my graveyard to my hand, can I target the Pattern of Rebirth?



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posted June 12, 2000 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selvaxri   Click Here to Email Selvaxri     
i cast Conspiracy and name legends, and donate it to my opponent. he has 4 preists and 4 sentinels (llanowar). do all but one die?
what if i name mongoose, can i play double the legends?
lmk...


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posted June 12, 2000 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raker   Click Here to Email Raker     
This is kind of like Selvaxri's Question.
If I donate a Conspiracy where WALLS was named, can his creatures attack?


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posted June 12, 2000 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maro1   Click Here to Email maro1     
If I have a Cursed Totem in play can my opponent use Rootwater's Thief's ability to search through my deck?


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posted June 12, 2000 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DarkDamion   Click Here to Email DarkDamion     
Umm ok I have a Thrashing Wumpus out and my opponent has a Negator out. If I say Pesty for lets say 4, it really doesnt matter, just more than one, can my opponent sac the Negator for the 1st dmg and he doesnt have to sac 4 permanents??

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posted June 12, 2000 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for guenhwyvar     
Purplepat: No, since the Pattern of Rebirth isn't in the graveyard to be targeted.

Selvaxri: If you donate it, all but one would die, I belive, since the game still remembers which one came into play first, even thou they all gained the legendery status at the same time. As to creature type- "x", this means that the creatures are no longer legends, and you can have multiples.
This can remove the Legend creature type, and therefore the Legendary status, from a creature you control. [bethmo 99/09/22]

Raker: If you choose Wall, then your creatures cannot attack. [DeLaney 10/17/99]
So yes, donating a conspiracy w/"wall" named is a very not-nice thing to do.

Maro1: Yes.

DarkDamion: Let's assume you did a 2 point wumpus. . .
It woudl go like this.

1) Activate T.W. *thrashing wumpus* and put it's ability on the stack.
2) In response you active T.W.'s ability again, putting a second damage on the stack.
3) For simplicity's sake let's assume no other spells or abilities are played.
4) The first point of damage gets assigned to all creatures, and the negator's ability gets put on the stack.
5) Your opponent has to sacrifice 1 permanent, let's choose the negator.
6) Negator goes to the graveyard.
7) The second point of damage is assigned to everything, but there is no negator in play so no more permanents are sacrificed.

Hope this helps/is right.

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posted June 13, 2000 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for purplepat   Click Here to Email purplepat     
I have an Avatar of Woe as the only card in my graveyard. I cast Search for Survivors, which requires me to shuffle my graveyard, and then an opponent chooses a card from it. If it is a creature card, it is put into play; otherwise, it is removed from the game. My question is: Upon casting Search for Survivors, does it immediately go to the graveyard where it could be one of the cards my opponent randomly chooses, or does it wait until the random card is chosen before going to the graveyard?


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posted June 13, 2000 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolio   Click Here to Email coolio     
maro1 and guenhwyvar
answer to totem and rootwater thief question is
no

Affects anything with an activation cost, which is anything written as Cost: effect, or as you may pay <-cost-> to do
<-effect->. [D'Angelo 99/05/01]

purplepat: the final resolution of a spell.. more specifically instants and sorceries is put into the graveyard... not as its resolving. so the search goes to the graveyard after the random selection.

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Mageman
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posted June 13, 2000 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mageman   Click Here to Email Mageman     
with thran lens, are the creatures considered artifact creatures because they are colorless or the same as what they were before it was casted?


krazykid1331
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posted June 13, 2000 11:38 AM           
Hello, Can you answer my question ?

Does Black Vise work on all of your opponets or just 1 ? If it is just 1 than what happens when that player dies ? I am asking because I was going to make a deck for playing with more than one person.

Thanks,
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posted June 13, 2000 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kworb   Click Here to Email Kworb     
If there's an Engineered Plague on Wizard and someone plays a Prodigal Sorcerer, does it come into play?

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posted June 13, 2000 12:15 PM           
I tried asking Coolio this in e-mail, but he never replied :P.

What affect does Mana Web have on the opponent now that the evil stack has been introduced? It used to be one of the most broken cards before the stack, but it as released before 6th ed, so exactly what does it do? Is it a useless card now?

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posted June 14, 2000 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for guenhwyvar     
Mageman: They are colorless, not artifact.

Slim_Shady: The stack has always been around. Mana web will tap those lands that your opponent hasn't already tapped, assuming they produce the same mana that is. It's useful against blue decks, who won't really be able to cast anything on their turn and then cast counterspells on your turn, for example.

Krazykid1331: No official multiplayer rules, play it how you like it.

Kworb: I'll tell you when I get back to MY computer and get get all the card texts.

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CoolHomie
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posted June 14, 2000 01:09 PM           
During my main phase my opponent shocks me. In response, can I play douse and activate it to counter his shock? Thanks for the help


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posted June 14, 2000 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Traitor   Click Here to Email Traitor     
coolhomie

I think this is right. if the douse is already IN PLAY then you can use it in response. But since it is an enchantment you cannot put it into play in response to the shock for its not an instant. correct me if im wrong. magic is wierd.

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posted June 14, 2000 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for guenhwyvar     
Coolhomie: Traitor gave the write answer. Kudos to him. Enchantments, creatures, artifacts and lands can't be cast/played normally if there is anythin on the stack.

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Okey Dokey... Lets look at Cho-Manno. It counts as both a rebel and a legend, the Rebel Informer counts as both a rebel and a mercenary.. Now would ..Oh I dont know.. A Black Knight(summon black knight) count as both a Black and a Knight? Yes... Perplexing..

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Er..NM.. It just says Knight.. DOH!

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Good one!


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posted June 14, 2000 06:54 PM           
in regards to a post near the top of page 7 (I think), Kevin, you said that you can only regenerate a creature that has been assigned leathal damage. In my town however, there is something called a "regeneration shield" which supposedly lasts till the end of turn. So under the "regeneration shield" rule as I heard it you can pay the regeneration effect then if you need it you can use it. Is this true?


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posted June 14, 2000 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for guenhwyvar     
Good call Swoop Ryder.
G.29.Ruling.3 -
You can play a regeneration spell or ability even if the permanent is not being destroyed at this time and has no indication that it will be destroyed in the near future. [D'Angelo 99/05/01]

However, the creature will not tap or be affected by any of the regeneration effects
until the regeneration actually occurs. *when it takes lethal damage, for example*

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Can i play a Laccolith Rig on an opponent's creature? If so, since i control the enchantment, can i decide whether or not to use the ability of the rig when that creature is blocked? (This came up in a sealed deck league.)

Will counters from Thrive stay on a creature that becomes something other than a creature? (Chimeric Idol, opal Acrolith, Soul Sculptor raw material, etc.)

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Can i play a Laccolith Rig on an opponent's creature? If so, since i control the enchantment, can i decide whether or not to use the ability of the rig when that creature is blocked? (This came up in a sealed deck league.)

Will counters from Thrive stay on a creature that becomes something other than a creature? (Chimeric Idol, opal Acrolith, Soul Sculptor raw material, etc.)

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