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guenhwyvar Member	posted June 22, 2000 01:16 PM 4 for the hermit, 4 for the copy of the hermit. The squirrel tokens don't make more squirrels. __________________ -Guenhwyvar Member of G.A.B Blue Team and Judge in training.
da-odd-templar Member	posted June 24, 2000 03:17 PM If you have Opalescence in play, and you also have Parallax Wave in play, what happens if, say, my opponent targets my wave with snuff out, and to save my wave, i use it's own ability to remove it from play..what happens then, because the wave left, but it removed itself...help... __________________ "Is Santa Claus so jolly because he knows where all the naughty girls live?" "If those psychics always know the lottery numbers, then what are they doing on a psychic phone-in line, when they could be living like stars?" "Whose cruel idea was it for the word LISP to have an S in it?"
Urza unregistered	posted June 24, 2000 03:23 PM i gotta pretty small question that should be able to be answered quickly because i'm just stupid. Can i use ring of gix to tap my oppenents creature in response of attacking?
Selvaxri Member	posted June 24, 2000 03:58 PM urza: i think you can... before he declares attackers, that is. if humility is in play, do creatures with fading lose that ability? Scenario: I use 4 Worldly Tutors to find 4 Skyshroud Behemoth. then use Call of the Wild to put them into play. I have Humility and Runed Arch (X, tap, sacrifice Runed Arch: X creatures with power no greater than 2 cannot be blocked this turn. Other effects may later be used to increase a creature's power beyond 2.)in play. Next turn, i sack the arch and declare my four 1/1 behomoths unblockable, than i renounce the humility and attack my opponents. can i do that? note italicized text. thanx. [Edited 1 times, lastly by Selvaxri on June 24, 2000]
Mageman Member	posted June 24, 2000 04:02 PM urza, not in responce, but normally before they declare the attack, i think. you can during declare attackers phase where you tap the creature so it can't attack. if they are already tapped, you can't make it work
Goblin_Snowman Member	posted June 24, 2000 04:02 PM in response to his attack phase you can tap a creature but this means he can restart his attack phase. If you let it go past that and he has declared attackers then the ring does nothing
Urza unregistered	posted June 24, 2000 04:03 PM so what does that mean? no damage would be dealt with that attacker right?
guenhwyvar Member	posted June 24, 2000 05:59 PM Da-odd-templar: Parallax Wave has errata on it such that if it removes itself from the game it will not return to play. Urza: You can use the ring of gix to tap a creature in response to him declaring an attack. If you do so it cannot participate in the attack, being tapped. Once he declares the creature as an attacker, however, it taps and the ring will be useless. Selvaxri: I'd assume as such, since fading IS a triggered ability. As to the other question, this is the way it works. First an important note, you can't worldy tutor for 4 behemoths since they would be continually reshuffled. Beyond that, however, your scenario works and you can attack with 4 unblockable 10/10's. If anyone has any questions as to why, I'll explain further. Gaeacradle: 1) Player A would not die. This is because he would lose 4 life and then gain back 4 life before state based effects were checked. State-based effects only take effect when priority is given to a player or during the cleanup step. 2) Yes
DarkDamion Member	posted June 24, 2000 06:10 PM I know this question is old, but I just want to know, do you lose the life if the counterspell a Hatred. A simple yes or no will do fine. __________________ "Sticks and stones break my bones, but whips and chains excite me." My ref list: http://www.magictraders.com/reflists/DarkDamion.html AIM name: DarkDamionX ICQ#: 64273007 Email: darkdamion@hotmail.com
coolio Member	posted June 24, 2000 06:13 PM quote: Originally posted by Slim_Shady: I tried asking Coolio this in e-mail, but he never replied :P. What affect does Mana Web have on the opponent now that the evil stack has been introduced? It used to be one of the most broken cards before the stack, but it as released before 6th ed, so exactly what does it do? Is it a useless card now? __________________ Dica dica dica dica Slim Shady, I'm sick of him, look at him! Grabbin his you know what, flickin off you know who-The Real Slim Shady [b]G.A.B. Vice Admiral(Will have all my refs confirmed soon)[/B] well lets see.. somehow.. I never got an email from jiggyrapper@cs.com slim_shady.. however.. I did get this one from morphlingz@cs.com .. and we all know that was stroke of genius.. who was 13.. and therefore banned under the new regulations. From: MorphlingZ@cs.com Save Address - Block Sender To: cicero6969@hotmail.com Save Address Subject: plz answer a rules question for me Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 23:12:09 EDT Reply Reply All Forward Delete Previous Next Close Dear motl'er, I saw u were a judge at motl and I have a question. How does Mana Web from Weatherlight(3, artifact, when comes into play, target a player, whenever target player taps a land, tap all lands that players controls that can produce mana of that type and color). I don't get how it works. It seems really broken, but now that the stack is used, i may be wrong. lmk. Also, does Mana Web make the opponent add the mana from the tapped lands or something? I'm confused.. and just today.. I got this email from jiggyrapper@cs.com Dear motl'er, You posted at my topic about some MM-PY rulings pretty upset. I said your topic seemed to be filled with a bunch of people that felt more concerned with getting more posts than helping people out because if the helpers actually wanted to help, they'd e-mail the askee of the question instead of posting an answer about 5 posts below the post where the question was asked. I mean, it as downright ridiculous after the 6th or 7th page to keep posting answers. What kind of an idiot posts an answer to a question that was asked on the 6th page on the 7th page? Why not just e-mail them the answers? Not everybody that asked a question would check back at that topic. notice the difference in the @cs.com? hrmm I wonder.. just thought everyone would like to know.. © __________________ Reference Page: www.magictraders.com/reflists/coolio.html DCI Certified Level I Judge Judge Certification & Training Oracle Card Reference D'Angelo Rulings Summary MTG Rules My Judge Article Rules Question Post #1 Rules Question Post #2
guenhwyvar Member	posted June 24, 2000 10:21 PM DarkDamion: Yes __________________ -Guenhwyvar Member of G.A.B Blue Team and Judge in training.
da-odd-templar Member	posted June 24, 2000 11:58 PM got some more questions for you kewl ppl.. 1.) If I have 2 Parallax Waves and Opalescence, and I remove one wave using the other's ability, does the removed-from-play wave lose fading counters during it's upkeep...i think it shouldnt...after all, it's out of the game...but need to know for sure. 2.) Do you have to discard down to 7 at the end of your opponent's turn?...question, because someone at a local tournament played bargain and drew load of cards during opponent's turn, then didn't discards on purpose... thanx for all the answers, u guyz! __________________ "Is Santa Claus so jolly because he knows where all the naughty girls live?" "If those psychics always know the lottery numbers, then what are they doing on a psychic phone-in line, when they could be living like stars?" "Whose cruel idea was it for the word LISP to have an S in it?"
da-odd-templar Member	posted June 25, 2000 12:01 AM also, what's stopping him from declaring his creature as an attacker when u try to tap it??? __________________ "Is Santa Claus so jolly because he knows where all the naughty girls live?" "If those psychics always know the lottery numbers, then what are they doing on a psychic phone-in line, when they could be living like stars?" "Whose cruel idea was it for the word LISP to have an S in it?"
BloOdy Member	posted June 25, 2000 06:22 AM Let's say I'm replenishing a Seal of Cleasing and an Opalescene into play with a Cursed Totem On the board. I know I can stack it the way that the Seal comes into play before the Opalescene comes into play (see PandeBurst). But can I sacifice the Seal of Cleansing to destroy the Crused Totem before the Opalescene comes into play? I'm afraid I can't. Please let me know. Thank you!
guenhwyvar Member	posted June 25, 2000 07:10 PM Da-Odd-Templar: 1) The wave will not lose counters if it is not in play. A wave removed by a second wave will return to play when the second wave leaves play. 2) No, only at the end of your turn do you have to discard down to 7. 3) The difference is that he's declaring his INTENT to attack. He can't actually move into his attack phase until you let him. Before you let him, you can tap the appropriate creature, but as soon as he declares it as an attacker you can't use the ring of gix to any effect. Bloody: By the time the Seal of Cleansing has time to be sacrificed, the opalescence is in play and the Cursed Totem prevents this from working. Again, I hate Replenish/Opalescence questions so I hope this is right. __________________ -Guenhwyvar Member of G.A.B Blue Team and Judge in training.
juzammn Member	posted June 25, 2000 07:25 PM coolio- if i got 2 horn of greeds out and i play ramped growth do i draw one card or 2? e-mail me or post asap __________________ Relampago- El Relampago hace 3 puntos de a una critura o jugadon objetivo.
guenhwyvar Member	posted June 25, 2000 10:48 PM Rampant growth puts a land into play, so it doesn't trigger the horns. __________________ -Guenhwyvar Member of G.A.B Blue Team and Judge in training.
juzammn Member	posted June 26, 2000 07:05 AM but it should rampant growth says "search your library for a basic land and put it into play, tapped." horn of greed says "Whenever a player plays a land, that player draws a card". didn't i just "put a land into play" ? __________________ Relampago- El Relampago hace 3 puntos de a una critura o jugadon objetivo.
guenhwyvar Member	posted June 26, 2000 07:17 AM Horn of Greed: Info: Color=Artifact Type=Artifact Cost=3 SH(R1) Text(SH+errata): Whenever a player plays a land, that player draws a card. [Oracle 99/05/01] Playing a land will trigger it, but putting a land into play as part of an effect will not. [Duelist Magazine #25, Page 30] __________________ -Guenhwyvar Member of G.A.B Blue Team and Judge in training.
juzammn Member	posted June 26, 2000 03:24 PM ok then. there goes that deck idea. if i have 2 horn of greeds out and i play a land from my hand would i get 2 cards? __________________ Relampago- El Relampago hace 3 puntos de a una critura o jugadon objetivo.
coolio Member	posted June 26, 2000 09:32 PM yes.. if you play the land.. you get the cards... lemme emphasize PLAY.. and put into play are different things.. © __________________ Reference Page: www.magictraders.com/reflists/coolio.html DCI Certified Level I Judge Judge Certification & Training Oracle Card Reference D'Angelo Rulings Summary MTG Rules My Judge Article Rules Question Post #1 Rules Question Post #2
da-odd-templar Member	posted June 26, 2000 10:53 PM hi everybody, im really bored, so i guess i will ask you a question let's say you are playing against someone who has a clinical fear of squid. Then, you play volrath's laboratory, and choose squid. If i make a token and attack my opponent, do I lose because I took advantage of their fear? __________________ "Is Santa Claus so jolly because he knows where all the naughty girls live?" "Whose cruel idea was it for the word LISP to have an S in it?" "That's the sandbox...my daddy says I can't go in the deep end."-Ralph Wiggum
guenhwyvar Member	posted June 27, 2000 10:31 PM No, no you would not. All further irrelevent questions may be directed/spammed to the new irrelevent complaints and questions department, Kworb. __________________ -Guenhwyvar Member of G.A.B Blue Team and Judge in training.
Magic1264 Member	posted June 27, 2000 10:46 PM I have a question about stroke of Genius. Say i stroke a person for more than he had in his library. Would he/she lose then or at the begginning of his/her draw step?
Ashlie unregistered	posted June 27, 2000 11:33 PM Magic1264, you lose whenever you can't draw a card, whether in the middle of a Stroke or during your Draw step. Got a question .... I'm pretty sure this is correct, but I have been out of Magic for a bit, so it may have changed. I have a Tangle Wire and an Umbilicus. During my upkeep, I put Tangle Wire on stack, then Umbilicus. I resolve Umbilicus first and return the Wire. Then there is no Wire to resolve. Is this correct? Email as I really don't want to dig through posts. __________________ Ashlie "Have you ever noticed that people who see things are always crazy?" Ving Rhames to Nick Cage in Bringing Out the Dead "Well, this isn't Mission: Difficult, Mr. Hunt, this is Mission: Impossible. Difficult should be a walk in the park." - a badass Anthony Hopkins to Tom Cruise, MI:2

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