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Vegeta19
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posted September 11, 2001 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vegeta19   Click Here to Email Vegeta19     
That is just plain out sick to find joy in others pain! I say we go and kick some Palestinian butt! Maybe then they'll show some respect!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by irsih31:
Ha... this is not surprising. When you are the strongest country in the world, and a corrupt one at that, you make enemies...


Maybe so, but does anyone deserve to die???

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And people wonder why we dont care when we get jks made at us cuz we live in Canada..well, we dont have a target over us 24/7 either.

I don't know about the rest of the US population, but I have nothing to do with this country's foreign policy and am pretty sure that no one else on MOTL does. I am a citizen and watch everything play out just like you in Canada.

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Was it wrong what happened today? yes, but at least it wasnt directed at totally innocent places.. ala Pentagon.

You're right and the passengers on those planes weren't innocent, nor the flight crews, nor the people inside the WTC, nor the Rescue workers who were there to help, nor a single soul inside the pentagon. Everyone in America is guilty and shold be killed.
You are crazy.

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posted September 11, 2001 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gbs3769   Click Here to Email gbs3769     
quote:
Originally posted by Vegeta19:
That is just plain out sick to find joy in others pain! I say we go and kick some Palestinian butt! Maybe then they'll show some respect!!!


And then the cycle would continue. I am all about punishing thse who perputrated this act, but to declare war apon innocent people is not right.

How many times have you laughed at someone who slipped and fell, or at the "funniest home videos" when someone gets hit below the belt or something like that. It's the same sort of thing.

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posted September 11, 2001 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for squizz   Click Here to Email squizz     
Well I believe Yassar Arafat has already expressed his disgust at this act and distanced himself from any group that might be involved in this. While terrorist groups might have a horrendous impact when they strike, very often they do represent and act on the behalf of the minority of their people.

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man, this is big...im in a canadian school and were not doing work were just watching the news...i really hope they dont start a war or anything.and all that talk about about WWIII. i dont think so.but probably a big war nonetheless.

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posted September 11, 2001 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Magic Dude   Click Here to Email The Magic Dude     
quote:
Originally posted by Vegeta19:
That is just plain out sick to find joy in others pain! I say we go and kick some Palestinian butt! Maybe then they'll show some respect!!!


Besides that being a very bad idea in general (you don't want WWIII to happen, do you?), it wouldn't be that easy, since you have no direct knowledge of who did this, and whoever did it is not going to be easy to kick his butt...or whatever. You get my point.

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posted September 11, 2001 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gbs3769   Click Here to Email gbs3769     
The word on the street is that all classes here at Syracuse University are canceled. But I have to check on my test. I'll be back to post later.

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posted September 11, 2001 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for weezerdog   Click Here to Email weezerdog     
Most of the posts on this thread are pretty ignorant. First of all, whomever said we should go kick Palestinina butt is just dumb, we don't even know who did this for sure, and like Matt already said, that would just make the cycle go on. I think we should wait, make sure no more attacks happen, gather any and all information we can regarding who did this, and then make a logical decision from there. I do think that whatever organization is responisble for this tradgedy should be hit, and hit hard. We need to let terrorist organizations know that we do not accept attacks on US soil, or any of our foerign embassy's.

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posted September 11, 2001 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vegeta19   Click Here to Email Vegeta19     
gbs3769: I understand were you are coming from, but don't you feel slightly sickened by people cheering and jumping for joy because hundreds, most likely thousands of Americans are dead!? How can you compare a person being hit below the belt to hundreds of thousands of people being killed because of what their government!? There is no comparison. I do appologize for my outburst though.

The Magic Dude: I wasn't refering to Palestinians as a country, or as a whole I was refering to the ones that were cheering for these attacks.

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posted September 11, 2001 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for weezerdog   Click Here to Email weezerdog     
Matt - I beleive that not all of the classes are cancelled, so be careful. At any rate, I'm not going to any of mine today.

-Jason

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posted September 11, 2001 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gbs3769   Click Here to Email gbs3769     
quote:
Originally posted by Vegeta19:
gbs3769: I understand were you are coming from, but don't you feel slightly sickened by people cheering and jumping for joy because hundreds, most likely thousands of Americans are dead!? How can you compare a person being hit below the belt to hundreds of thousands of people being killed because of what their government!? There is no comparison. I do appologize for my outburst though.


I agree that it is not the same. My point however was that to people who live in a life of violence, such an act could seem just like a hit below the belt. I am disgusted by the fact that they are all cheering, but I would not wish them ill because of it. (Man I am really sounding like a consciencious objector right now). Anyhow, I think that our government will soon find who did this and they will be punished.

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posted September 11, 2001 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RPGfreak17   Click Here to Email RPGfreak17     
well, dare i say good news is that WWIII is not likely at all. being a terrorist strike, you simply can't declare war on a country for that. Like Squizz said, they are an independent minority, so the responsibility cannot be placed on any one country.

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posted September 11, 2001 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gbs3769   Click Here to Email gbs3769     
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Originally posted by weezerdog:
Matt - I beleive that not [b]all of the classes are cancelled, so be careful. At any rate, I'm not going to any of mine today.

-Jason

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Yeah I have a test I am going to now. Later bro.

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posted September 11, 2001 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Magic Dude   Click Here to Email The Magic Dude     
quote:
Originally posted by Vegeta19:
don't you feel slightly sickened by people cheering and jumping for joy because hundreds, most likely thousands of Americans are dead!?

Frankly, I don't believe that they're actually cheering because of the dead Americans, but only because some progress may have been made towards what they want: a nation for themselves. They have nothing against Americans personally...

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posted September 11, 2001 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for weezerdog   Click Here to Email weezerdog     
quote:
Originally posted by RPGfreak17:
well, dare i say good news is that WWIII is not likely at all. being a terrorist strike, you simply can't declare war on a country for that. Like Squizz said, they are an independent minority, so the responsibility cannot be placed on any one country.

~RPGfreak17


Also, you can't have a full-scale war on a terrorist organization. Trust me, there will be consequences for whoever did this. Not a full-scale war, but there will be consequences.

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posted September 11, 2001 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joris Brakkee   Click Here to Email Joris Brakkee     
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Originally posted by gbs3769:
Yeah I have a test I am going to now. Later bro.

- Matt



Hello?

Some people here (and yes, despite my last post, I AM one of them) are genuinely shocked about this and you (I don't mean you alone Matt) are talking about your schools!!
Use ICQ or some other chatting device for that! Would you please?!



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posted September 11, 2001 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vegeta19   Click Here to Email Vegeta19     
RPGfreak17: How do you know that it was and independant minority? There have been many terrorist groups declaring responsibility for these attacks so how can you say that it was an independant minority with out knowing all the facts, unless you are a mind-reader.

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Originally posted by weezerdog:
Also, you can't have a full-scale war on a terrorist organization. Trust me, there will be consequences for whoever did this. Not a full-scale war, but there will be consequences.

-Jason

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Of course there will be consequences, but I think a major consequence will be something that has to do with the progress regarding Palestina's independence...big chance they'll get something accomplished with this, although I don't like it at all...but what can you do against minorities killing thousands of innocent people?

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posted September 11, 2001 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for irsih31   Click Here to Email irsih31     
You know NOTHING of what I talk bout, you should then just keep quiet. My pt was the Pentagon, and you know nothing of what truly goes on there, it is not a innocent random target, neither was the wtc, but the people in there were innocents, it was just a "making a point" bombing, so like I said before, I feel for the families of the dead.

Like I said, sometimes Ignorance can become more the bliss, the more you prove it, the more you stay the same. Have ANY of you stopped to think of WHY this happened, its alot deeper then some palistilian nut jobs, although something this wide scale is crazy. When I or anyone else says things remarking the leaders of your country, it does not mean we are talking bout every single american, cuz obviously we arent, there are alot of very nice americans, that dont deserve to be grouped like that. If you or anyone else chooses to take it that way, so be it, in the end it makes no diffrence. More then 1 country was involved in this as well, and it had to have backing by at least several others. Maybe you guys dont get it? Whether the bombings and attacks today are right or wrong, and some of them are very wrong, the fact remains United States is the MOST HATED country in the World, and if you live in it, then I guess you cant helped but be grouped, but there is a reason behind everything, its a pity though your goverment has made it a policy since like the 40's to keep its public uninformed, mostly because if they did, you would all be disgusted. EVERYTHING happens for a reason, not always a good one, or not always a smart action.. but it does. And you can try fighting logic, but you aint gonna win.

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posted September 11, 2001 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scavenger4   Click Here to Email Scavenger4     
a sad day indeed for all mankind... paliestiens were supposedly firing in the air, celebrating, after hearing news of the attacks... this is just sick.. thats all i have to say about this right now....


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i think irish is right.when youre living in the most powerful,hated country in the world bad things are bound to happen.this is a little much though.

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Yea, some of this is outright nutz, but like I said, whether any of us condone it, which most of us wont, which is good, it happened for a reason, and once you sort through everything, all the tradegdy and aftermath, thats really what you should all be looking for, for there within lies your answer to most of your deserving questions

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Originally posted by k_kotelniski:
i think irish is right.when youre living in the most powerful,hated country in the world bad things are bound to happen.this is a little much though.


So just because we are the most powerful country in the world, we should be subjected to attacks like this? I think not. If Palastinians (or any other country or group that hates the U.S.) hate us because of what we have, maybe they should try to do something else about it, without violent attacks such as these. Just because America is the most prosperous and powerful country does NOT make it okay to attack us like this.

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RPGfreak17: How do you know that it was and independant minority? There have been many terrorist groups declaring responsibility for these attacks so how can you say that it was an independant minority with out knowing all the facts, unless you are a mind-reader.


Many things are indicating Bin Laden is behind all this...

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Well, I started getting the news around 9:00 of what was going on, and the lab was ordered closed around 9:30. They just said on FOX News that the astronauts in the International Space Station can see the smoke from where they're at

UPDATE: Finally saw the video of the second plane crash...this is sickening.
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