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Volcanon
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
For all the cubers out there, has anyone tried preordain in the cube? And what do you guys think of the following?
1. Black zenith
2. The two mythic heros from besieged
3. Mirran crusader

I know for a fact that I need to make room for go for the throat, green zenith and red zenith, but I don't know what else would be good. Thanks


If only Phyrexian Crusader didn't have Infect. Then it would be auto-include in cube.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
For all the cubers out there, has anyone tried preordain in the cube? And what do you guys think of the following?
1. Black zenith
2. The two mythic heros from besieged
3. Mirran crusader

I know for a fact that I need to make room for go for the throat, green zenith and red zenith, but I don't know what else would be good. Thanks


Phyrexian Revoker, Thrun, Accorder Paladin, Sword of Feast and Famine along with the cards you listed.

 
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Is Signal Pest something i should throw into a Tempered Steel type deal? I play with Ornithopters too, and Steel Overseer is another pumper for it.

Thinking about tossing in some eldrazi crap into my green deck. 8-ish mana is plausible, probably not 15. Also just throwing it in for fun so a 7 dollar card isn't too worth it.
What's a good eldrazi type thing to substitute for the legendary guys? Or should i do Conscription instead of a body?

 
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I was looking at the info for the new set and saw that you choose which faction you want your pack to be from. What's the difference between the 2 packs? Is it that certain cards are more likely to appear in one kind of pack, certain cards only appear in one kind of back, etc?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by lmdemasi:
I was looking at the info for the new set and saw that you choose which faction you want your pack to be from. What's the difference between the 2 packs? Is it that certain cards are more likely to appear in one kind of pack, certain cards only appear in one kind of back, etc?

That was only for the prerelease. Faction packs will not be used for any other events that I know of.

If you chose Phyrexia, all the cards in the pack would have the Phyrexian watermark, and likewise for Mirran. The only exception is that foils could appear in the other faction's packs,

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Sovarius
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Release party will be the same thing with the factions, if i heard correctly.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
For all the cubers out there, has anyone tried preordain in the cube? And what do you guys think of the following?
1. Black zenith
2. The two mythic heros from besieged
3. Mirran crusader


Preordain has been in my cube for a long time. It's really good.

Black Zenith is really good - I'd take out some other removal for it, but I don't know what your list looks like. I don't want to suggest taking out something like Bane of the Living if you're running Infest.

Hero of Bladehold is an auto-include; it's really, really good and gives white another 4-drop that's ridiculous. It dodges Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, Incinerate, etc.

Hero of Oxid Ridge should also find a home, but it's not ridiculous.

Mirran Crusader absolutely goes in. Double protection guys are ridiculous for the cube. Paladin en-Vec and Stillmoon Cavalier are both not going anywhere any time soon. The fact that it has double strike is just a bonus on top of everything else.

Here's what I'm trying to find room for in my cube:

Mirran Crusader
Hero of Bladehold
Black Sun's Zenith
Hero of Oxid Ridge
Thrun
Green Sun's Zenith
Phyrexian Revoker
Sword of Feast or Famine

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:
Release party will be the same thing with the factions, if i heard correctly.

You heard incorrectly. Release party uses normal Besiged boosters. The ONLY event to use the split packs was the pre-release.

And on that note, everyone planning to attend a release event this weekend should read this:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/128k

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skizzikmonger
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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:
Is Signal Pest something i should throw into a Tempered Steel type deal? I play with Ornithopters too, and Steel Overseer is another pumper for it.

Yes, and so is a copy or two of Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas.

 
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I think this screenshot speaks for itself.

In case it doesn't - that's me making two Necrotic Oozes a turn in a SOM-SOM-SOM draft.

 
Sovarius
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Yes, and so is a copy or two of Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas.

Wrong colors, Tempered Steel is white :v
But really, it's just 30 or 60 dollars i don't have.
Although i am doing blue for trinket mage, riddlesmith, and counters.

 
JoshSherman
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Yes, and so is a copy or two of Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas.

Into a typically mono-white deck? I disagree. That's a two-color splash.

quote:
Originally posted by yakusoku:
I think this screenshot speaks for itself.

In case it doesn't - that's me making two Necrotic Oozes a turn in a SOM-SOM-SOM draft.


Lolololol. That's what makes Necrotic Ooze so ridiculous. Maybe that should be my next pet deck (probably not).

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by JoshSherman on February 03, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:
Wrong colors, Tempered Steel is white :v
But really, it's just 30 or 60 dollars i don't have.
Although i am doing blue for trinket mage, riddlesmith, and counters.

Most Tempered Steel lists are UBW, so it's a reasonable suggestion.

 
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In playing Pauper, you know, the format where you can only use commons, I just lost on my third, third, second, and third turns in two matches.

It's unfortunate that Mark Rosewater thinks power creep is the only way to make this game fun and sell product. It makes it not very fun at all, actually.

That's why I quit playing extended and switched to pauper, but even that doesn't work, I guess. Two mana has now become the point where you have to deal with spells or eventually lose (Bitterblossom), three mana is the spell you have to deal within one turn or lose (Knight of the Reliquary) and four mana is a must counter spell or you immediately lose (Scapeshift).

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Schwingzilla on February 03, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Schwingzilla:
In playing Pauper, you know, the format where you can only use commons, I just lost on my third, third, second, and third turns in two matches.

I haven't paid close attention to the format, but I'm assuming some form of storm combo?

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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
I haven't paid close attention to the format, but I'm assuming some form of storm combo?


It was poison. And I just lost on my third turn to mono green aggro. Not poison.

But yeah, I (effectively) lose on my third turn to storm combo pretty frequently too.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Schwingzilla on February 03, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:
Wrong colors, Tempered Steel is white :v
But really, it's just 30 or 60 dollars i don't have.
Although i am doing blue for trinket mage, riddlesmith, and counters.


quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
Into a typically mono-white deck? I disagree. That's a two-color splash.

Mono white? Isn't Tempered Steel BWu?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Schwingzilla:
In playing Pauper, you know, the format where you can only use commons, I just lost on my third, third, second, and third turns in two matches.

It's unfortunate that Mark Rosewater thinks power creep is the only way to make this game fun and sell product. It makes it not very fun at all, actually.

That's why I quit playing extended and switched to pauper, but even that doesn't work, I guess. Two mana has now become the point where you have to deal with spells or eventually lose (Bitterblossom), three mana is the spell you have to deal within one turn or lose (Knight of the Reliquary) and four mana is a must counter spell or you immediately lose (Scapeshift).


I feel like you could have said that years ago with stuff like Scepter, Mr. Teeth and even Necropotence. I feel like you're being unreasonable.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
You heard incorrectly. Release party uses normal Besiged boosters. The ONLY event to use the split packs was the pre-release.

And on that note, everyone planning to attend a release event this weekend should read this:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/128k


Most release parties will be with the faction packs. Weather is preventing most shipments of regular boosters to be delayed until next week.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by rats60 on February 03, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by yakusoku:
Preordain has been in my cube for a long time. It's really good.

Black Zenith is really good - I'd take out some other removal for it, but I don't know what your list looks like. I don't want to suggest taking out something like Bane of the Living if you're running Infest.

Hero of Bladehold is an auto-include; it's really, really good and gives white another 4-drop that's ridiculous. It dodges Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, Incinerate, etc.

Hero of Oxid Ridge should also find a home, but it's not ridiculous.

Mirran Crusader absolutely goes in. Double protection guys are ridiculous for the cube. Paladin en-Vec and Stillmoon Cavalier are both not going anywhere any time soon. The fact that it has double strike is just a bonus on top of everything else.

Edit: why is everyone interested in my mangara of coridor?

Here's what I'm trying to find room for in my cube:

Mirran Crusader
Hero of Bladehold
Black Sun's Zenith
Hero of Oxid Ridge
Thrun
Green Sun's Zenith
Phyrexian Revoker
Sword of Feast or Famine


Yeah that's a really good list, white has too many good stuff at foue already. Its gonna be hard


[Edited 1 times, lastly by fluffycow on February 03, 2011]

 
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Anyone going to Paris? I'm looking for French preordains and Lorwyn ponders, perhaps someone could help me out?
 
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Can someone remind me the rule on if custom fees are incurred and the 2 traders haven't specifically discussed it before hand.

Is it something they have to worked out or is it stuck on the receiving party?



I do believe the onus is on people to inform people they trade with about any taxes their country might impose.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by rats60:
Most release parties will be with the faction packs. Weather is preventing most shipments of regular boosters to be delayed until next week.

Source? According to the information WotC sent me, if I don't get our product, I'm supposed to reschedule our Launch Party, not use faction packs.

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Why does everyone want Mangara of Corondor all of a sudden?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
Why does everyone want Mangara of Corondor all of a sudden?

Death & Taxes and whatever the GW Death and Taxes is called.

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