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choco man Member	posted January 23, 2011 01:05 PM quote: Originally posted by Liq: [QUOTE]Cards I don't care about acquiring are listed far lower than cards I do want to acquire? or Cards I'd rather keep but will get rid of if the price is right are higher than those I don't mind getting rid of? I don't see how that is a problem. The reason 1pt is not $1 but rather 50c is because I am actively looking for bad cards. As such I use bad card to good card ratio for trading. Why don't you just list the crappy cards that you want for .1 pt? I have difficult time believing that your point system is there to make trades easier. If you have a points system to carve out deals for yourself, I don't think anyone cares. Gunslinga's has one and it's good. It's just that your h/w list is really bad and inefficient.
JoshSherman Member	posted January 23, 2011 01:22 PM quote: Originally posted by caquaa: how does that even make sense? Bad cards are worth less $ therefore if $1 = 1 point they would already be lower. If I value a card at $.25, and use that point system, it's exactly like cash. The intent of a point system is to make trading easier, and keeping a $1/1pt ration does not serve that purpose for my list if I want a bunch of quarter cards. __________________ MafiaBassJoshweekLetter Bombs!Logout Q: How many mathematicians does it take to change a light bulb? A:0.9¯
choco man Member	posted January 23, 2011 01:35 PM quote: Originally posted by JoshSherman: If I value a card at $.25, and use that point system, it's exactly like cash. The intent of a point system is to make trading easier, and keeping a $1/1pt ration does not serve that purpose for my list if I want a bunch of quarter cards. use .25 pt i mean 4 quarters = 1 dollar
WeedIan Member	posted January 23, 2011 02:01 PM quote: Originally posted by choco man: use .25 pt i mean 4 quarters = 1 dollar Some people fail to read and go ZOMG 25 points for crap rare. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
JoshSherman Member	posted January 23, 2011 03:10 PM quote: Originally posted by choco man: use .25 pt i mean 4 quarters = 1 dollar I'm confused because I already pointed out why I think that's not the best option for the situation. __________________ MafiaBassJoshweekLetter Bombs!Logout Q: How many mathematicians does it take to change a light bulb? A:0.9¯
Liq Member	posted January 23, 2011 04:35 PM quote: Originally posted by choco man: Why don't you just list the crappy cards that you want for .1 pt? I have difficult time believing that your point system is there to make trades easier. If you have a points system to carve out deals for yourself, I don't think anyone cares. Gunslinga's has one and it's good. It's just that your h/w list is really bad and inefficient. I have a bunch of low value cards and I'm looking for a bunch of low value cards. Its a waste of time and space to put 0.1 point there when I can just declare all cards without a point value is simply 1 point and make sure every other card relates to that. Something everyone can understand. If my list is really bad/inefficient then why do i have 3x the amount of refs than you? __________________ <Jazaray> LIQ! <Jazaray> you broke MOTL <Liq> totally <BoltBait> Don't make me kick you <Slinga> Have no fear, MOTL's janitor is here! <nderdog> So we're all agreed, it's Liq's fault, right? <Leshrac> let me deal with that * Liq has been banned [Edited 1 times, lastly by Liq on January 23, 2011]
choco man Member	posted January 23, 2011 07:01 PM quote: Originally posted by Liq: If my list is really bad/inefficient then why do i have 3x the amount of refs than you? IDK, maybe you're more willing to do small trades or just more active on MOTL.
joz Banned	posted January 23, 2011 10:12 PM Did a fun draft earlier tonight. M11/M11/M11 I drafted monoblack; a grave titan, two diabolic tutors, two doomblades, three assassinates, one crystal ball, two black knights, one corrupt, and a lilliana vess. But I lost the 1st place spot to a guy that opened two baneslayers, and a a hole sideboard of celestial purges, pacifies and what must have been at least a half dozen hawks. Way to much money opened in that draft. 2 bane slayers 1 grave titan 1 foil frost titan 1 inferno titan 1 maze 1 glacial fortress 1 sunpetal grove 1 sword of vengeance 1 leyline of sanctity 1 vess 1 foil garruk 1 foil day of judgment 2 fauna shamman lots of other stuff. One guy opened his 3 packs and walked out to make a phone call and some guy came in after the tourny and handed him $120 cash for the cards he had.
Timmyhill Member	posted January 24, 2011 03:45 AM This might sound like a silly question but for cards like Giant Tortoise from Arabian Nights there's suppose to be 2 versions of the card do they share the same artwork?
Uthaedeol Member	posted January 24, 2011 04:49 AM quote: Originally posted by Timmyhill: This might sound like a silly question but for cards like Giant Tortoise from Arabian Nights there's suppose to be 2 versions of the card do they share the same artwork? Same artwork, but the colorless mana symbol in these cards's casting costs comes in a 'light' and a 'dark' look. __________________ Swamps suck. Mountains rock!
yakusoku Member	posted January 24, 2011 08:01 AM I am on such a winning streak right now in draft. I played three back to back to back drafts on MTGO and managed to go 3-0, 3-0, 3-0. I think my online limited rating on Friday was something like 1680. I've done lots of drafts since then and now I'm up to 1741. My drafts with Sword of Body and Mind, Skithryx, Sunblast Angel, and Wurmcoil Engine, I went 1-1 or 2-1. All my 3-0 drafts have been without bombs. I'm not sure what that says about my drafting or the format, but all weekend, I've managed to "go infinite" in drafts.
stu55 Member	posted January 24, 2011 08:43 AM I also hate looking at lists with Xx listed for wants
Volcanon Member	posted January 24, 2011 09:31 AM quote: Originally posted by stu55: I also hate looking at lists with Xx listed for wants ... because the people who want "any number of" certain cards invariably say "wellll... I dont really need it that bad"?
stacker Member	posted January 24, 2011 11:47 AM Agreed, it's really dumb. Remember when 10 years ago, people would put Xx power 9? Well, it like that now with 50+ legacy staples.
airwalk Member	posted January 24, 2011 02:16 PM Meh, I use Xx for certain cards because I need as many as I can get because I would like them for multiple decks. However, I don't suggest that they are worth less because 'I don't need them that bad'.
-Lunch_Box- Member	posted January 24, 2011 04:57 PM This is going to sound like a dumb question, but does anyone know how many cards a 5000 count and 1600 count box will hold? I was told that the count comes from baseball cards or something like that and they are thicker then magic cards.
MeddlingMage Member	posted January 24, 2011 05:13 PM quote: Originally posted by airwalk: Meh, I use Xx for certain cards because I need as many as I can get because I would like them for multiple decks. However, I don't suggest that they are worth less because 'I don't need them that bad'. I do this to because I collect the cards or have them in multiple decks as well. Xx doesn't mean I value them any less or anything. I currently have 12x Eternal Witness and am still looking for Xx of them. ~MM __________________ I am MeddlingMage...YOUR Motl Survivor 11 Champion, 2007 Captain N award winner, 2010 Marlboro award winner. MafiaBass (9:48:50 PM): sorry my keyboard is sticky MeddlingEric (9:48:56 PM): ewwww MafiaBass (9:51:43 PM): FTR, I did not show you my e-pee-pee New keeper of the Logout button
Havoc Demon Member	posted January 24, 2011 05:26 PM Used to do the XX thing, now only need XX Nantuko Shade because I actually want an infinite number of them. __________________ Most References in Massachusetts (Moving pays off I guess.) Support my friend's store: http://www.tabletoparena.com
AlmostGrown Member	posted January 24, 2011 06:07 PM I do "Xx _______" but only for collection wants and foil (Snow) basics. Because I really do what all of them. To even out trades, at least. __________________ send ref checks, paypal payment or any questions to the email in my profile! Serra Angel Count: 224 Nightmare Count: 95
WCFmo Member	posted January 24, 2011 06:19 PM I put Xx in my list to annoy and frustrate stu, volcanon, and stacker. On topic - so for those going to prerelease, what faction are you playing and why? __________________ <Liq> you just can't expect a sig worthy line to appear out of nowhere on demand <Malroth> "wow. a $35 goyf!..oh, it's a buy lise..."
rayragnarok Member	posted January 24, 2011 06:39 PM quote: Originally posted by WCFmo: On topic - so for those going to prerelease, what faction are you playing and why? i plan to go mirran. Phyrexia has gotten some pretty sweet cards but i don't want to end up opening half a good decks worth infect guys and half a decks worth of good non infect guys. i'm going for consistency over explosiveness.
joz Banned	posted January 24, 2011 08:24 PM Im most likely going to see what the bombs are I open in my first pack...and go from there. no strategy other then: A: flying B: lots of removal C: card advantage.
JTAubrey Member	posted January 24, 2011 09:11 PM I'm going with phyrexia, because that's where the alleged playable rares seem to mostly be, and that's what people will want to trade for. And because I'm a wurm man.
rayragnarok Member	posted January 24, 2011 09:15 PM quote: Originally posted by joz: Im most likely going to see what the bombs are I open in my first pack...and go from there. no strategy other then: A: flying B: lots of removal C: card advantage. you do know that at prerelease you have to pick which faction your MBS cards will be right? you will either get 3 mirran or 3 phyrexian packs + 3 som packs. you cant open a pack and decide what packs to get from there.
joz Banned	posted January 24, 2011 09:23 PM goodpoint, I was thinking about draft for some reason...

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