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Originally posted by TimeBeing:
Madness was super cheap. no rares in it. But it was also pre-Mythics.

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Yea, I think it costed me a little more than $30 to make the deck.

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Originally posted by junichi:
Yea, I think it costed me a little more than $30 to make the deck.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
T2 Clerics was cheap. So was slide. And affinity, except for mox/glimmer/ravager.

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Clerics had some valuable stuff in it, like Oversold Cemetery, Rotlung Reanimator, and Patriarch's Bidding. Slide had a set of Exalted Angel. But yes, they are still relatively cheap compare to the t2 decks in nowadays. Even Upheaval/tog could be had for less than $100, and it was the best deck in the format for a long time. I miss the old days.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
T2 Clerics was cheap. So was slide. And affinity, except for mox/glimmer/ravager.

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And even then.

$10 for Glimmer, $15 for Ravager, $15 for mox, and another $5 or so for Clamp.

$160 or so for the deck. A bargain. Owling Mine was pretty cheap too. Only recently have we had $700 T2 decks.

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Originally posted by Mr.C:
And even then.

$10 for Glimmer, $15 for Ravager, $15 for mox, and another $5 or so for Clamp.

$160 or so for the deck. A bargain. Owling Mine was pretty cheap too. Only recently have we had $700 T2 decks.

And people have the nerve to say Legacy is expensive

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Originally posted by junichi:

Hence I am getting out of the competitive scene once and for all. You should join us for some old school magic. We are currently playing Alpha/Beta only decks with old school rules (Yay for mana burn and die at the end of phase!) and first B/R list.

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by junichi:

Hence I am getting out of the competitive scene once and for all. You should join us for some old school magic. We are currently playing Alpha/Beta only decks with old school rules (Yay for mana burn and die at the end of phase!) and first B/R list.

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My play group and I started playing during that era, so we all enjoyed playing it the old ways.

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BTW, mana source card type didn't exist in that era. Dark ritual is an interrupt.

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Originally posted by junichi:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mr.C:
And even then.

$10 for Glimmer, $15 for Ravager, $15 for mox, and another $5 or so for Clamp.

$160 or so for the deck. A bargain. Owling Mine was pretty cheap too. Only recently have we had $700 T2 decks.

And people have the nerve to say Legacy is expensive

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Hence I am getting out of the competitive scene once and for all. You should join us for some old school magic. We are currently playing Alpha/Beta only decks with old school rules (Yay for mana burn and die at the end of phase!) and first B/R list.

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If I can use Portuguese BB instead of Beta, count me in. Otherwise, I'd have to play Pearled Unicorn Beatdown.

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Originally posted by pugowar:
I had a thought and wanted some input from the older/wiser players.

I know the 5 Lorwyn planeswalkers are the face of Magic but do you think they will be in m12? Do you think they can "waste" 5 mythic slots and reprint them again? Wont they so saturate the market that it will be disappointing to those who open it again?

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I'm fairly confident that the 5 original 'walkers will return. People talk about including "upgraded" versions to make the Core Set better but I think that is missing the point. While it's true that the Core Set is now trying to be more relevant in Standard/for experienced players but the idea is to make a fairly accessible set to bring new players into the game. Putting new/more complicated 'walkers in the set does nothing to address that goal. People talk about replacing Jace 1.0 with Jace 2.0 but why would WotC do that? What would that tell the player base? Oh, blue is the best color because it's 'walker gets 4 abilities compared to the other colors' 3. That seems foolish.

Now, having said that they did make the promise of 50% new cards and not functional reprints, so if they run out of ideas on the creative side an easy answer is to create new, basic 'walkers and a new vertical cycle for each 'walker. That would take care of a good chunk of the non-reprint part of the set but I don't see them doing that.

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Originally posted by Mr.C:
If I can use Portuguese BB instead of Beta, count me in. Otherwise, I'd have to play Pearled Unicorn Beatdown.

On the plus side, I think I can make a Mana Flare/Power Surge/Wall of Fire deck, just like in Shandalar

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Originally posted by junichi:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mr.C:
If I can use Portuguese BB instead of Beta, count me in. Otherwise, I'd have to play Pearled Unicorn Beatdown.

On the plus side, I think I can make a Mana Flare/Power Surge/Wall of Fire deck, just like in Shandalar

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As long as you have ways to kill sengir, nightmare, shivan, serra, air elemental, phantom monster, and hippies, you will be fine.

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Originally posted by junichi:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mr.C:
And people have the nerve to say Legacy is expensive

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Hence I am getting out of the competitive scene once and for all. You should join us for some old school magic. We are currently playing Alpha/Beta only decks with old school rules (Yay for mana burn and die at the end of phase!) and first B/R list.

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Originally posted by I3Iood:
You are essentially complaining about competitive magic being expensive and then using only alpha/beta cards? Am I missing something here? You do realize the hypocrisy in this don't you?

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Well, to be fair, there is nothing to suggest that they are actually acquiring all the cards. They could just be playing with proxies.

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Originally posted by I3Iood:
You are essentially complaining about competitive magic being expensive and then using only alpha/beta cards? Am I missing something here? You do realize the hypocrisy in this don't you?

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The a/b decks aren't terribly expensive, since we aren't running any power at the moment. My deck only cost me a little more than $300 to make.
4 dark rit
4 hippy
4 juggy
2 sengir
1 nightmare
1 demonic tutor
1 sol ring
1 icy
1 Jayemdae Tome

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
Why don't you allow Unlimited/Revised?

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Actually, a few others from my LGS saw us having fun with the old school decks at the PR, and are planning to make a UL deck to join in the fun.

RV is a bit different, since there are stuff that a A/B only deck would have a hard time dealing with, like Serendib.

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My play group was raised in an era where white border magic cards are frown upon, so A/B is the only way to go for us.

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Originally posted by junichi:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
Why don't you allow Unlimited/Revised?

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We had an easier time tracking A/B stuff than Unlimited.

Actually, a few others from my LGS saw us having fun with the old school decks at the PR, and are planning to make a UL deck to join in the fun.

RV is a bit different, since there are stuff that a A/B only deck would have a hard time dealing with, like Serendib.

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My play group was raised in an era where white border magic cards are frown upon, so A/B is the only way to go for us.

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Revised is the best core set ever!!! YOU ALL NOW HAVE MY WRATH UPON YOU!!!

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
Revised is the best core set ever!!! YOU ALL NOW HAVE MY WRATH UPON YOU!!!

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
Revised is the best core set ever!!! YOU ALL NOW HAVE MY WRATH UPON YOU!!!

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Is it something they have to worked out or is it stuck on the receiving party?

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Can someone remind me the rule on if custom fees are incurred and the 2 traders haven't specifically discussed it before hand.

Is it something they have to worked out or is it stuck on the receiving party?

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Originally posted by Thanos:
If somethings not agreed upon before shipment, it's the receiving parties responsibility.

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I cannot find something that tells me this here:
http://classic.magictraders.com/sending_rules.shtml

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
I cannot find something that tells me this here:
http://classic.magictraders.com/sending_rules.shtml

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I don't see it there either, but that's just the way it is, you can't be held responsible for any fees they may incur if it was not discussed before hand.

If they knew it was gonna be an issue, they should have brought it up during trade negotiations.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
I cannot find something that tells me this here:
http://classic.magictraders.com/sending_rules.shtml

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