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AlmostGrown
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quote:
Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
EDH is pretty cheap if you go Mono-Colored.


I'm actually gonna try that. It'll save me a bunch on the various duals and artifact acceleration.

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quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
I'm actually gonna try that. It'll save me a bunch on the various duals and artifact acceleration.


Thats what I thought too.

I didn't really want to invest into expensive cards if I don't even know if I like the format yet.

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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
Thats what I thought too.

I didn't really want to invest into expensive cards if I don't even know if I like the format yet.


I would make a mono colored general...except I have none except Mangara of Corondor. Which I'd want Karakas for. Derp.

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quote:
Originally posted by stab107:
I've got a buddy who runs Zirilan in paper. He likes to tutor up Dragon Tyrant, bash face, tuck it back with Tel-Jilad Stylus and do it again next turn. It can be pretty potent if not disrupted, and who doesn't love bashing with the Tyrant?


Great suggestion! I'm trying to put together Zirilan in paper. Trading for crappy dragons is the hard part, coincidentally.

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
Would the unused pre-release packs have to be sent back to WotC or are they unsellable because of what may/may not be good in that faction? Or are you just not allowed to sell them at all. I'm sure you could ebay them later on...

Because they are not the normal packs that will be sold for retail, they can not be sold at all. I have no intentions of risking our relationship with WotC over stuff like that. As I said, it shouldn't be an issue, as we will be in good shape, at worst running a screwy draft after the prerelease to use up the extra stuff.

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quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
I'm actually gonna try that. It'll save me a bunch on the various duals and artifact acceleration.


I absolutely hate proxies, but I feel that edh is an absolute exception. If just want to play with your buddies, a couple of proxies isn't gonna **** anyone off (just don't make it half your deck). I know that I only enough cards for my cube and a couple of legacy deck, so there's no way that I am gonna blow 200+ dollars on a format that's just casual

 
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Proxies are fine as long as you have the cards and don't want to switch, or have the intention of getting them down the road or such. If you proxy a set of duals for an EDH deck I'd expect you to likely have a few and be working toward the others, or just find some alternatives since you aren't going to see the real things any time soon. Yep, tons of gray area.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by caquaa on January 19, 2011]
 
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EDH Groups:

EDH = How much money some people are willing to spend on a casual deck.

EDH = How many combos can you stuff into a deck.

EDH = How many people can you lock out of the game.

EDH = How fast can you flip Erayo.

EDH = How fast can you cast Big Fatty "X".

EDH = How big can you Genesis Wave for on turn X.

EDH = How fast can you turn your library over onto the battlefield.

EDH = How big a deck you can pimp out before your friends do the same.

EDH = Bragging about your pimped out deck.

EDH = A format that should be fun for all, but in reality is a conglomerate of douchebaggery of seeing who can do the stupidest and most annoying **** the fastest while making sure the rest of the table can only sit there and accept their inevitable defeat as you "win more" for then next twenty turns.

EDH = Big spells = Good.

EDH = Small spells = Not So good.

EDH = Oh look, I spent $XXXXX.xx dollars on this deck cause I needed to have each dual land, fetch land, ravinca land, cradle, academy, wasteland, library, pendel haven, force of will, bazar, Krakaras, Maze of Ith, Workshop, Tabernacle, reflecting pool, mutavault, and a dozen others.

EDH = Oh look, INFINITY! I have achieved it.

Eight times in this game.

EDH = Monored->"THANK GOD WE HAVE ARTIFACTS."

 
AlmostGrown
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Joz, what you stated is all true. And yet I still love it. I have learned that I will never build a "competitive" or "good" EDH deck, and have settled for theme based decks. They can be a lot of fun too
 
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quote:
Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
Joz, what you stated is all true. And yet I still love it. I have learned that I will never build a "competitive" or "good" EDH deck, and have settled for theme based decks. They can be a lot of fun too

If you want to play a non-competative, but very fun EDH, go with Oona as your general, then run a Zombie (PLUS) Rebel or Mercenary theme; with a large sac outlet, steal effects and wraths.
Zombies are quite good in EDH; and Rebels and Mercenaries generate good card advantage and deck thinnning.

Though, personaly, a non-competative monowhite token + beatstick + soft-creature-lock is fun too.

 
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Thing I like about EDH is everything is playable, broken? sure! Lock? Sure! Casual? Sure!

Just need a good group, that's it....only time Broken/Lock get out of hand is when you have one or more people who just watch it happen then whine :P

(and yes this happens in my play group way to often)

and I LOATHE making EDH decks, mostly cause it can take me upwards of several weeks and/or months to build one, like Zombies (Mono Black) or Sedris (187.dec) still working on both...lol

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I use to run Braids when she was around

I would HATE for people to tell me I couldn't play with my cards

 
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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Just need a good group, that's it....only time Broken/Lock get out of hand is when you have one or more people who just watch it happen then whine :P

(and yes this happens in my play group way to often)


Got built

Scion the One Shot Kill (Love Skittles in this)


That annoys me to no end, people that tries to be diplomatic and doesn't try and kill the guy that just resolved a mana reflection. Then complains the next turn when mana reflection powers out a tooth and nail with counter backup

What's skittle?

[Edited 2 times, lastly by fluffycow on January 20, 2011]

 
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Skittles = Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon

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I hate EDH as a general rule since I don't want to devote more of my brain to remembering cards that aren't in 1.5, EXT, Standard and limited. Plus, I don't like accumulating the cards.

However there are a lot of my friends that play pretty much exclusively play EDH and draft, so one time I decided to just make a ridiculous EDH deck that really couldn't win but would just warp the game and make people laugh. I grabbed Horobi, death's wail, went to gatherer, typed in "target", and started searching.

In the end the few games I played with the deck were some of the most fun I've had playing magic. I had some real gems in there: The "wand of tawno's" (I think?): 2/artifact that reads 2:target creature gains banding = super house. Plus everyone's techy lands turned into unkillable Visaras. Best line of the night:

"Ugh, what are we going to do about that Bullwhip"

(search gatherer for Bullwhip)

Recurring Sundering Titan five times was pretty fun too, and didn't even come close to ending the game which indicates the power level I was up against with my pile.

And no, I didn't win any games.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by JTAubrey on January 20, 2011]

 
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So difficult to enjoy EDH sometimes...

EDH is equal parts of what I like most about Magic (casual games with friends/opponents) and the part I hate most about Magic (people playing slowly)

 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
So difficult to enjoy EDH sometimes...

EDH is equal parts of what I like most about Magic (casual games with friends/opponents) and the part I hate most about Magic (people playing slowly)


Yeah I notice that games tend to go longer because people play EDH much more relaxed than other formats and take their time/get easily distracted.

Other thing I hate is politicking. Let people play the way they want to. Unless its really obvious that something needs to be dealt with, then its fine. Otherwise it gets really annoying hearing someone try to influence another player's decision just to keep his land or something.

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EDH politics in large multiplayer games are truly fascinating; from a psychologist's/sociologist's perspective.
I find it helpfull, to set up the seating arrangement so that close friends aren't in each others direct line of site (at least two, or more seats, away.) And to always place female gamers next to each other; but away from their boyfriends/husbands (if present.)

Also, placing a shorter person between two taller persons generates very interesting "I-must-protect-the-short-guy" persona's, even when the short guy has the best deck (me usually.) I've also found out, that no matter what, there is always a Sliver deck and/or elf deck in a group of 4 or more.

But to me, the most fascinating thing about EDH is the clash between same general decks, with entirely different strategies. Like my Rayne turbo-card-draw vs my friends super-combo. Since he has so many combo pieces he doesn't run as many counters, and since all my deck does is counter and draw (into capsize+doubling cube as my only real combo) its a pure slugging match as we toss Confinscates, Control Magic, Counterspells, combo pieces and janky artifacts onto the battlefield in the hope of getting something to make a difference.

I hate Shadow of a Doubt with a passion; one of my friends plays it every time I tutor for the first time each game with Kiku...rage.rage.rage.

 
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Thea Steele just posted a cube update with some Besieged stuff and also added in Tinker. I had never seen the FTV version, and immediately thought they were reprinting it. I almost died.

Hold me...

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Does anybody know if anyone on this site is still collection foil basic lands signed by MOTL members? I have a bunch and I'd rather not throw them out.

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Does anybody know if anyone on this site is still collection foil basic lands signed by MOTL members? I have a bunch and I'd rather not throw them out.

I'd be willing to trade for foil basics (don't care if they're signed or not), but I wouldn't trade high dollar cards for them.

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I am not really looking to trade them (Not really sure of a value), I am looking for some who wants them and are willing to pay the shipping. Preferably someone who will add them to their collection.
 
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Is it just me or is almost everyone (including myself) playing Grand Architect.dec for SOM block constructed?
 
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Finally get a night off and MTGO has some crap server lag and has to be taken down for server maintenance.
 
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Originally posted by ProfileNotFound:
I am not really looking to trade them (Not really sure of a value), I am looking for some who wants them and are willing to pay the shipping. Preferably someone who will add them to their collection.

LMK what the shipping cost will be and I'll do it.

I have a bunch of lands signed by MOLT members, more would be very appreciated.

 

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