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Topic: Rulings Thread Part 48 (ALL rules-related questions go HERE!)
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DeMoNiC DuNcE Member
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posted May 22, 2011 05:17 PM
Puresteel Paladin Metalcraft - Equipment you control have equip {0} as long as you control three or more artifacts.Is his metalcraft a replacement effect for all equip costs, or do I have the option to pay 0 or pay the other cost (such as Piston Sledge's Sac an artifact cost to equip)?
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thror Member
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posted May 22, 2011 05:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeMoNiC DuNcE: Puresteel Paladin Metalcraft - Equipment you control have equip {0} as long as you control three or more artifacts.Is his metalcraft a replacement effect for all equip costs, or do I have the option to pay 0 or pay the other cost (such as Piston Sledge's Sac an artifact cost to equip)?
His ability doesn't say anything about removing their other equip cost, so they have both. __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."[16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
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KyleHauser Member
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posted May 24, 2011 10:46 AM
Hello - rulings question on Sorin"Players life total becomes 10" is that loss of life? Say, if i have Tainted Sigil out - Can i sac Sigil to gain the amount of life lost by opponent with sorin after the 2nd effect is used?
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yukizora Member
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posted May 24, 2011 11:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by KyleHauser: Hello - rulings question on Sorin"Players life total becomes 10" is that loss of life? Say, if i have Tainted Sigil out - Can i sac Sigil to gain the amount of life lost by opponent with sorin after the 2nd effect is used?
Yup. (If your opponent had more than 10 life before that).
[Edited 1 times, lastly by yukizora on May 24, 2011]
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KyleHauser Member
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posted May 24, 2011 02:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by yukizora: [QUOTE]Originally posted by KyleHauser: Hello - rulings question on Sorin"Players life total becomes 10" is that loss of life? Say, if i have Tainted Sigil out - Can i sac Sigil to gain the amount of life lost by opponent with sorin after the 2nd effect is used?
Yup. (If your opponent had more than 10 life before that).[/QUOTE]ok, how about if i am at 3 and i use this on myself and have a sanguine bond in play?
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Myy Member
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posted May 24, 2011 02:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by KyleHauser: ok, how about if i am at 3 and i use this on myself and have a sanguine bond in play?
If a life total changed because of an effect of a spell or ability. It will be considered lifegain or life lost. (i.e. if you're below 10 life It counts that as gaining life if you're above 10, then it counts as losing life. ) EDIT: in your example. your life would become 10, thus gaining you 7 life, and making your opponent lose 7 life. Only flaw in your plan is... Sorin Markov can only target your opponents. but i hope you get the idea.
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DeMoNiC DuNcE Member
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posted May 24, 2011 02:58 PM
Using Spellkite, equipped with a Livewire Lash, if I force a spell to target Spellskite, it will trigger Livewire Lash's damage effect on the stack, but can I repeatedly redirect to Spellskite to force triggers on the stack?
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Sovarius Member
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posted May 24, 2011 08:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeMoNiC DuNcE: Using Spellkite, equipped with a Livewire Lash, if I force a spell to target Spellskite, it will trigger Livewire Lash's damage effect on the stack, but can I repeatedly redirect to Spellskite to force triggers on the stack?
You will activate Skite to change the target, Lash will trigger. But that will be the only time, because once Skite is the target, you can't change the target to him again. He doesn't 'become' the target multiple times; you will just waste mana/life activating it. You can do it with two skites and two lashes though.
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WeedIan Member
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posted May 26, 2011 09:26 AM
Continuing the question about rule of law herequote: Originally posted by sammyt125: Yes, it would count as your spell for the turn.Next time, post here: http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/024815.html
Can someone link me to the rule how Rule of Law knows what spells have been played before it actually resolves?
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Myy Member
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posted May 26, 2011 09:29 AM
Sure, look at this card. arcane laboratory
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TimeBeing Member
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posted May 26, 2011 11:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: Continuing the question about rule of law here Can someone link me to the rule how Rule of Law knows what spells have been played before it actually resolves?
"611.1. A continuous effect modifies characteristics of objects, modifies control of objects, or affects players or the rules of the game, for a fixed or indefinite period.""Rules of the game" is the part your looking for. It doesn't need to "know". It sets a rule that says only one spell can be played. your thinking something like "611.2c If a continuous effect generated by the resolution of a spell or ability modifies the characteristics or changes the controller of any objects, the set of objects it affects is determined when that continuous effect begins."
But rule of law doesn't modify any objects. So it doesn't apply.
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festus Banned
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posted May 26, 2011 05:23 PM
I have a question about spellskite.. Lets say i have a skite in play and my opponent activates his SoFaF targeting one of his creatures. Would i be able to change the target to spellskite even though he doesnt control the skite?
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caquaa Member
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posted May 26, 2011 06:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by festus: I have a question about spellskite.. Lets say i have a skite in play and my opponent activates his SoFaF targeting one of his creatures. Would i be able to change the target to spellskite even though he doesnt control the skite?
check the NPH FAQ http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/703 You can activate Spellskite's ability even if Spellskite wouldn't be a legal target for the spell or ability. However, the target of that spell or ability will remain unchanged.
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darius vitrosoo Member
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posted May 27, 2011 12:57 AM
i know i asked about spellskite and quicksilver geyser does the same rule apply to into the core? and or arc trail?
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Sovarius Member
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posted May 27, 2011 09:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by darius vitrosoo: i know i asked about spellskite and quicksilver geyser does the same rule apply to into the core? and or arc trail?
Nope, same reasonings as before. You must be able to fulfill all criteria - that is, it has to be a legal target. Trail says "Another" - Skite isn't 1 target and "another" target. Similar thing with Core, it says two targets - you can't make that untrue.
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Schwingzilla Member
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posted May 28, 2011 07:35 PM
If a creature with trample is blocked by a creature that says "prevent all combat damage dealt to this creature," how much damage has to be assigned, and can all or all minus one damage be dealt to the defending player, regardless of the defending creature's toughness?
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Sovarius Member
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posted May 28, 2011 10:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Schwingzilla: If a creature with trample is blocked by a creature that says "prevent all combat damage dealt to this creature," how much damage has to be assigned
You still must assign lethal damage before assigning more to additonal blockers/players/walkers. lethal is equal to the creatures toughness, unless you have deathtouch and 1 damage is lethal. Edit: I have instant-speed equips for whatever reason. can i put two of the same equip abilities on the stack from the same equip? i.e. I respond to respond to removal with Neurok Stealthsuit, they respond with another reomval before the Suit is there, i respond with yet another equip. Perfectly legal right? Can i equip an equipment to the creature it's attached to?
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thror Member
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posted May 29, 2011 05:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sovarius:
Edit: I have instant-speed equips for whatever reason. can i put two of the same equip abilities on the stack from the same equip? i.e. I respond to respond to removal with Neurok Stealthsuit, they respond with another reomval before the Suit is there, i respond with yet another equip. Perfectly legal right? Can i equip an equipment to the creature it's attached to?
Yes, both are just fine.
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mattw Member
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posted May 30, 2011 05:32 AM
I was wondering, someone uses a slagstorm (deals 3 damage to all players). Can they change that 3 damage to a planeswalker?also, i play a phyrexian ingester targeting a germ token with, say a batterskull on it, would my ingester get plus 4 plus 4?
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thror Member
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posted May 30, 2011 05:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by mattw: I was wondering, someone uses a slagstorm (deals 3 damage to all players). Can they change that 3 damage to a planeswalker?also, i play a phyrexian ingester targeting a germ token with, say a batterskull on it, would my ingester get plus 4 plus 4?
Any time a player would deal non-combat damage to their opponent, they can choose to redirect all of that damage (in this case 3) to a planeswalker that opponent controls. So yes, slagstorm damage can be dealt to planeswalkers. 2nd question, no idea. __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."[16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
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AlmostGrown Member
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posted May 30, 2011 08:40 AM
If I control an Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite and then cast another, will my opponent's creatures get -4/-4 before both Elesh Norns are sent to the graveyard due to state based actions?Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite __________________ send ref checks, paypal payment or any questions to the email in my profile! Serra Angel Count: 283 Nightmare Count: 109 DCI Rules Advisor PlasteredDragon - Gone but not forgotten
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thror Member
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posted May 30, 2011 08:50 AM
State based actions check everything at once. So Norn #2 resolves, and the game sees multiple things at the same time:1- 2 legends with the same name, needing to be put into graveyards. 2- Creatures getting -4/-4. If any of them have zero or less toughness, they also need to be put into graveyards. So yes, you will kinda sorta give them all -4/-4 before both Norns die.
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WestWycke Member
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posted May 30, 2011 09:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by mattw: also, i play a phyrexian ingester targeting a germ token with, say a batterskull on it, would my ingester get plus 4 plus 4?
No, it would not. Actually, you can't even do this.Phyrexian Ingester specifies target nontoken creature. So you can't target the Germ token attached to the Batterskull. If you had exiled a creature card instead of a token, you would only get +X/+Y based on the values on the card, not the creature as it existed on the battlefield. A Forgotten Ancient with 5 +1/+1 counters and equipped with the Batterskull would only give the Ingester +0/+3 once it was exiled. For the height of silliness, try having your Phyrexian Ingester eat a Spinal Parasite. __________________ "If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the other 3% ?""I intend to live forever. So far, so good."
[Edited 2 times, lastly by WestWycke on May 30, 2011]
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mattw Member
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posted May 30, 2011 11:21 AM
thanks for that.and this might sound stupid but can you have more than 4 of one copy of a card in a draft deck?
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thror Member
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posted May 30, 2011 11:38 AM
Yes. If you draft 8 squadron hawks, go right ahead and play them all. The 4 of rule is for constructed only, not limited.__________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."[16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
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