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Topic: Rulings Thread Part 48 (ALL rules-related questions go HERE!)
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Bugger Member
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posted June 14, 2011 09:19 AM
Riku of the two reflections: is his ability to copy creatures when you cast them for UG considered an activated ability that can be copied by rings of brighthearth? __________________ "I never got any respect at all. My family moved a lot when I was a kid, but I always found them." -- Rodney Dangerfield
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Meddling Pimp Member
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posted June 14, 2011 09:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Bugger: Riku of the two reflections: is his ability to copy creatures when you cast them for UG considered an activated ability that can be copied by rings of brighthearth?
No. It's a triggered ability which prompts you to pay an optional cost. Rings will not copy it.
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Bugger Member
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posted June 16, 2011 01:43 PM
Suppose I have Twilight Shepherd in my graveyard and I cast living Death. Is it possible to stack triggers such that I return the Living Death to my hand with the shepher's ability?__________________ "I never got any respect at all. My family moved a lot when I was a kid, but I always found them." -- Rodney Dangerfield
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caquaa Member
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posted June 16, 2011 06:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Bugger: Suppose I have Twilight Shepherd in my graveyard and I cast living Death. Is it possible to stack triggers such that I return the Living Death to my hand with the shepher's ability?
not sure what triggers you're talking about stacking. There is only one trigger between those two cards which belongs to the Shepard. You cast living death, once its done resolving then the Shepard's ability can go on the stack and when that resolves you'll get your living death back. edit: heh, I missed the part about battlefield as well. I didn't recall it returning spells so checked it on gatherer and somehow still missed it ><
[Edited 1 times, lastly by caquaa on June 17, 2011]
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joz Banned
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posted June 16, 2011 06:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Bugger: Suppose I have Twilight Shepherd in my graveyard and I cast living Death. Is it possible to stack triggers such that I return the Living Death to my hand with the shepher's ability?
quote: 608.2k - As the final part of an instant or sorcery spell's resolution, the spell is put into its owner's graveyard. As the final part of an ability's resolution, the ability is removed from the stack and ceases to exist. [CompRules 2009/10/01]
1. As living death resolves, it goes to your graveyard, its effect triggers simultaneously. Creatures in play are exiled, all creatures in graveyards are returned to the battlefield, and the exiled creatures are put into the graveyard. 2. All ETB abilities trigger. Twilight Sheperd returns any creatures you had in play prior to Living Death resolving. Any creatures you have that target/andor/return sorceries/cards from your graveyard to your hand may target Living Death (e.g. Eternal Witness) __________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue?Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
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caquaa Member
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posted June 16, 2011 11:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by joz: stuff
living death does not have any triggers so using proper terminology there is important. Twilight Shepard's ability does not target.
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mattw Member
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posted June 17, 2011 05:57 AM
If i play an eternal Dominion: Oracle Text: Search target opponent's library for an artifact, creature, enchantment, or land card. Put that card onto the battlefield under your control. Then that player shuffles his or her library. Epic (For the rest of the game, you can't cast spells. At the beginning of each of your upkeeps, copy this spell except for its epic ability. You may choose a new target for the copy.)I can't suspend stuff in can i?
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Meddling Pimp Member
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posted June 17, 2011 06:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by mattw: If i play an eternal Dominion: Oracle Text: Search target opponent's library for an artifact, creature, enchantment, or land card. Put that card onto the battlefield under your control. Then that player shuffles his or her library. Epic (For the rest of the game, you can't cast spells. At the beginning of each of your upkeeps, copy this spell except for its epic ability. You may choose a new target for the copy.)I can't suspend stuff in can i?
No. Suspend requires that you could cast it.
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Myy Member
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posted June 17, 2011 07:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Bugger: Suppose I have Twilight Shepherd in my graveyard and I cast living Death. Is it possible to stack triggers such that I return the Living Death to my hand with the shepher's ability?
Sorry Bugger, it won't work because Twilight S. only return cards put into a GY from Play. (the battlefield)
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joz Banned
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posted June 17, 2011 08:39 AM
oops, missread sheperd, edited my post.__________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue?Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
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Bugger Member
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posted June 17, 2011 08:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Myy: Sorry Bugger, it won't work because Twilight S. only return cards put into a GY from Play. (the battlefield)
Bummer __________________ "I never got any respect at all. My family moved a lot when I was a kid, but I always found them." -- Rodney Dangerfield
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DeMoNiC DuNcE Member
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posted June 22, 2011 01:23 PM
Xenograft: As Xenograft enters the battlefield, choose a creature type. Each creature you control is the chosen type in addition to its other types.Turntimber Ranger: Whenever Turntimber Ranger or another Ally enters the battlefield under your control, you may put a 2/2 green Wolf creature token onto the battlefield. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on Turntimber Ranger. If Xenograft is called for ally, and then Turntimber is played, does the wolf token (being an ally under your control), trigger as an ally to trigger Turntimber's effect for another wolf and a +1/+1 counter?
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Myy Member
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posted June 22, 2011 05:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeMoNiC DuNcE: Xenograft: As Xenograft enters the battlefield, choose a creature type. Each creature you control is the chosen type in addition to its other types.Turntimber Ranger: Whenever Turntimber Ranger or another Ally enters the battlefield under your control, you may put a 2/2 green Wolf creature token onto the battlefield. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on Turntimber Ranger. If Xenograft is called for ally, and then Turntimber is played, does the wolf token (being an ally under your control), trigger as an ally to trigger Turntimber's effect for another wolf and a +1/+1 counter?
Yep
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Bugger Member
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posted June 22, 2011 06:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Myy: Yep
So does that mean that Xenograft + Turntimber Ranger = infinite tokens? __________________ "I never got any respect at all. My family moved a lot when I was a kid, but I always found them." -- Rodney Dangerfield
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Sovarius Member
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posted June 22, 2011 06:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Bugger: So does that mean that Xenograft + Turntimber Ranger = infinite tokens?
Don't forget the arbitrarily large Ranger to lead them. (That's a yes, the combo doesn't stop at one extra wolf ally.)
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pugowar Member
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posted June 23, 2011 12:28 PM
How would my general The Mimeoplasm interact if there was a Spawnrithe in the GY?If i have the Mimeoplasm enter the battlefield as copy of Spwnrithe, would he make a copy of himself when he dealt damage? if so would the copy be legendary as well? would the copy deal general damage? Thanks!
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Meddling Pimp Member
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posted June 23, 2011 12:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by pugowar: How would my general The Mimeoplasm interact if there was a Spawnrithe in the GY?If i have the Mimeoplasm enter the battlefield as copy of Spwnrithe, would he make a copy of himself when he dealt damage? if so would the copy be legendary as well? would the copy deal general damage? Thanks!
It would be a Spawnwrithe token (not a The Mimeoplasm token) All other answers are "No" :-)
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pugowar Member
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posted June 23, 2011 01:28 PM
as a follow up: if i use the mimeoplasm to exile "mortivore" how many +1/+1's do i put on? Does it check his power in the graveyard or does it check his power based on how many creatures are in all gy?
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Meddling Pimp Member
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posted June 23, 2011 01:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by pugowar: as a follow up: if i use the mimeoplasm to exile "mortivore" how many +1/+1's do i put on? Does it check his power in the graveyard or does it check his power based on how many creatures are in all gy?
The number of creatures in the yards.
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Kryne Member
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posted June 24, 2011 05:27 AM
In commander/edh, if Karador, Ghost Chieftain is my general, does his "costs 1 less for each creature card in your graveyard" attribute apply to the 2 colorless penalty add-on each time he dies?
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Devonin Member
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posted June 24, 2011 06:45 AM
Yes. The cost of casting the general is increased by 2 for each time he's been cast from the command zone, and then is decreased by 1 for each creature in the bin.
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InResponseForceOfWill Member
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posted June 24, 2011 02:20 PM
My opponent blocks my Soul Collectorwith his Kitchen Finks (or any creature with Persist). What happens?
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caquaa Member
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posted June 24, 2011 02:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by InResponseForceOfWill: My opponent blocks my Soul Collectorwith his Kitchen Finks (or any creature with Persist). What happens?
you have two graveyard triggers once the finks dies. Active players triggers go on the stack (soul collector), then non-active players (kitchen finks). Finks resolves first, when soul collectors resolves there is nothing to bring back into play so it does do anything. This scenario is reversed if the player w/ the finks attacks and you block.
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Skwirlnutz Member
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posted June 25, 2011 01:09 PM
If I Duress my opponent who has a Spellskite on the board can he redirect Duress to that creature or can he just redirect spells that can target creatures?Also if I block a Grave Titan with Argent Sphinx can I blink the Sphinx and the Grave Titan is still considered blocked and I still get my Sphinx back?
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joz Banned
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posted June 25, 2011 01:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Skwirlnutz: If I Duress my opponent who has a Spellskite on the board can he redirect Duress to that creature or can he just redirect spells that can target creatures?Also if I block a Grave Titan with Argent Sphinx can I blink the Sphinx and the Grave Titan is still considered blocked and I still get my Sphinx back?
He can not redirect Duress, duress can not target a creature, only a player. You can only redirect a spell/ability to another legal target type.And yes, you can block, and blink with the Sphinx.
__________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue?Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
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