Current count has 87 cards in addition to Momir Vig, so the stuff listed at the bottom needs to be whittled down to 12 (or less, if I'm missing something important). Any suggestions about what's worth keeping and what's worth dropping is much appreciated!

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Gilder Bairn
Murkfiend Liege
Mystic Snake
Vedelkan Mastermind
Overbeing of Myth
Trygon Predator
Experiment Kraj
Lorescale Coatl
Omnibian

Definitive adds:
Chord of Calling
Green Sun's Zenith
Tooth and Nail
Eternal Witness
Genesis
Regrowth
Primeval Titan

ALso:

Sol Ring
Everflowing Chalice
Gauntlet of Power
Draining Whelk
Hinder
Mind's Eye
Counterspell
Voidslime
Ęther Mutation
Biomantic Mastery
Spitting Image

Remove fodder, and anything that doesn't make an immediate impact on the game. Lastly, I've found Vigor to do absolutely nothing in EDH.

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Originally posted by joz:
Lastly, I've found Vigor to do absolutely nothing in EDH.

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I've actually had good results pairing him with pestilence/pyrohemia/pestilence demon (especially if Deathbringer Thoctar is out too)

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Originally posted by Bugger:
I've actually had good results pairing him with pestilence/pyrohemia/pestilence demon (especially if Deathbringer Thoctar is out too)

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Yea, but look at the colors nderdog is playing, green, and blue.
He'd have to rely on someone else dealing damage to his creatures for vigor to really do anything.
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Originally posted by joz:
Yea, but look at the colors nderdog is playing, green, and blue.
He'd have to rely on someone else dealing damage to his creatures for vigor to really do anything.

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OMFGNOWAI!
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I know, but since you were talking about Vigor in EDH generally, I responded about Vigor in EDH generally. But yes, outside of that combo, Vigor isn't that much of a bomb, except as a 'win-more' for your creatures when they already are bigger than their blockers.

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Originally posted by joz:
You don't have enough blue/green creatures, Mormir Vig isn't elf tribal, he's blue/green quickdraw combo stompy.

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I guess I should note that I'm playing in an environment where I have about the only deep cardpool (read more than a handful of cards printed prior to Lorwyn), and no one here has ever played EDH before, so it's going to be a pretty crappy metagame. I don't want to destroy everyone and make it so they have no fun, I want to play an interesting deck that I will enjoy, hence Elf tribal instead of making maximum use of Momir Vig.

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Originally posted by nderdog:
I guess I should note that I'm playing in an environment where I have about the only deep cardpool (read more than a handful of cards printed prior to Lorwyn), and no one here has ever played EDH before, so it's going to be a pretty crappy metagame. I don't want to destroy everyone and make it so they have no fun, I want to play an interesting deck that I will enjoy, hence Elf tribal instead of making maximum use of Momir Vig.

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Ah, Ok, that makes sense.

Well then, elf tribal...Roffellos? Joking.

But, Slate of Ancestry would fit nicely into here, as would Brass Hearld, Caller of the Hunt, Elvish Soultiller, Steely Resolve, Voice of the Woods, Sylvan Messenger, Call of the Wild, Commune with Nature, Enshrined Memories, Foster, Kamahl's Summons, Lead the Stampede, HARMONIZE, Weird Harvest, Wolf-Skull Shaman, Wordly Tutor, Zooologist

edit: my appologies if anything mentioned is already listed.

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Ah, Ok, that makes sense.

Well then, elf tribal...Roffellos?

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Yes, he's already on the list I linked to...

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Yes, he's already on the list I linked to...

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I edited my above post,

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"Did you mean:commander duck?"

Tamar dropped a Coat of Arms early off of Braids, then later landed his general and knocked Braids out a couple turns later with the tokens. I swept the field with Damnation, then hit Tamar with Bribery and grabbed Avenger of Zendikar. Tamar replayed his general, so next turn I knocked out Reaper King with the plant tokens then Martial Coup for 7 which killed Tamar. I found it amusing that everyone lost to a different set of tokens.

We played another game afterwards, but the Reaper King player went T2: Pila-pala T3: Grand Architect, infinite mana, Treasure Trove, draw deck, win.>.<

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Originally posted by wisknudde:
ok, so I am getting dragged into EDH as well

The general I have in mind is Captain Sisay and a G/W build containing loads of legendary creatures such as Thrun, Akroma etc etc. Am I able to use legendary artifacts such as Umezawa's Jitte and the Kaldra equipments? and for that matter: lands such as Karakas are use-able in this format then as well? (albeit restricted to 1)

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Originally posted by edsillars:
Is Chaos Warp only useful for hiding a commander or am I missing something? Price tag seems kinda high.

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Originally posted by edsillars:
Is Chaos Warp only useful for hiding a commander or am I missing something? Price tag seems kinda high.

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its just way overhyped. they've started crashing on ebay already.

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I don't have enough time to make all the decks i want. Or funds.

I wanna make Vaalia for the most brutal, cutthroat, overpowered multiplayer deck possible. Even if not seems like Lands+Vaalia+65 super Angel/Demon/Dragon cards would be fun.
I wish Vaalia was an Angel Demon even though it's kinda cheap/cliche feeling >.> Why does she demon and angel wings? I don't understand why she's a human, really.
BWR is one of my fav color combos for multiplayer, and in general i guess. I think as a whole BWR has got the best multiplayer cards.
Oh and totally not bragging, but i invented BWR as a hybrid of Angel/Demon/Fire (not dragons) as an idea of like a congregation of hell/heaven as one group bent on destroying whole planes mercilessly. I make a lot of my own cards...

Also Vish Kal, although i don't understand the art. It seems like he's wearing sunglasses... Maybe i haven't seen a large enough picture.
Lifelink is awesome and it's too easy to reanimate dead things anyway. Black/white is too cool, vampires are too cool. I might make this one for serious 1v1 play.

Also Damia, Sage of Stone. I wanna make it infect/poison counter creatures and as cutthroat as possible for 1v1. It's really got all the best stuff for control and graveyard recursion/reanimation and pump (mmmm Hatred sounds fun) and all the best infect/poison creatures. And probably just most in general.

Can't wait to put Skullbriar and Syphon Flesh in my upcoming zombies deck. Wish Syphon Flesh was all players... Then again i get the 'cycle' along with Soul and Mind.

Speaking of Zombies, i completed Thraximundar (err, for now, still working on getting more cards in there but it's deck now, at least.). But i also decided on and started gathering cards for a 5-color black sacrificey/reanimatey zombie-theme.
Each card is/will be black in some way, fitting the theme and color. So it's a black deck but i'm splashing white, green, red, and blue. Black combos with any color and is awesome. So i'll have cards like Grim Feast, Purgatory, Vindicate, Maelstrom Pulse, Undermine at my disposal. All fun and black feeling. Can't wait to throw in Savra and Necromancer's Covenant. All my lands will be multicolor but still black. Heh.
Just gotta pick a new general, but none of the 5 color ones fit a very black/zombie/reanimate/sacrifice theme.

Karona is the obvious choice. "False God"? Doesn't get much more evil/black sounding than that. Pumps my tribal deck, good chaotic multiplayer fun. I mean, really if i was worried about Her beating my face in later (isn't he a finisher?) i can sacrifice Her when i'm done.
I'm pretty sure it will be Karona. But,

Thinking Child of Alara might be alright. I get off on sacrificing my own stuff anyway so maybe it's intimidating. Not particularly fond of the energy baby thing it's got going on, but at least it's some sort of deity that has a black/destructive effect. Functionally and flavorfully acceptable enough. Keep it as a backup general for a laugh.

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I get off on sacrificing my own stuff

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Sounds like a personal problem O.o

In other news, Riku is the tits with evoke creatures. Draw four off of mulldrifter for 5 mana? Turn Spitebellows into a Flametongue Kavu on steroids? Don't mind if I do!

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Is Chaos Warp only useful for hiding a commander or am I missing something? Price tag seems kinda high.

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Impatient buyers.

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Originally posted by edsillars:
Is Chaos Warp only useful for hiding a commander or am I missing something? Price tag seems kinda high.

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kill enchantments and planewalkers and well anything. Stone rain 5-8 (instant speed)

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Originally posted by TimeBeing:
kill enchantments and planewalkers and well anything. Stone rain 5-8 (instant speed)

its got some uses.

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My deck needs Chaos Warp really badly.

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Originally posted by JoshSherman:
I played in the launch event, and I think the precons are really fun. Yesterday I played against someone whom I thought was playing a precon and got crushed. Congrats, dude. Your Defense of the Heart into Consecrated Sphinx and Vorinclex just beat a precon.

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I hate people like that. If it's too hard for you to shelve one of your overpowered EDH decks and pick up one that's closer to the power level of the people you're playing with, then you can save yourself the time and just outright go **** yourself instead of using the cards as a middleman to stroke your pathetic ego.

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Originally posted by Bugger:
I hate people like that. If it's too hard for you to shelve one of your overpowered EDH decks and pick up one that's closer to the power level of the people you're playing with, then you can save yourself the time and just outright go **** yourself instead of using the cards as a middleman to stroke your pathetic ego.

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