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Originally posted by Volcanon:
It's a suggested ban list in the sense that nobody will play with you if you don't follow it because you are "cheating" by not following the "ban list".

Most people expect it to be, by the way, but Yawg's Win is NOT banned.

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Agreed the only way you get house rules is if you constantly play with the same people, otherwise go with what is widely played.

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Originally posted by yakusoku:
Grand Arbiter Augustin IV?

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Agree with this, i'm not sure there is a Blue/White Angel legend.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Agree with this, i'm not sure there is a Blue/White Angel legend.

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Originally posted by yakusoku:
Grand Arbiter Augustin IV?

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Yah, no one likes him tho. I get told I suck the fun out of the game when I play that deck... que segue...

so we had our first (and last?) EDH tournament today and I used Grand Arbiter. The EDH players seemed not very interested in the first place. The rule set was also a little off, but then again people weren't playing to take advantage of the rules either. The rules were if you were in the game when time finished (90min) then you got 2 points and if you were last man standing in your pod you got 3 points. There was also a single point for playing each round, not sure why. We had 8 people show so we did 2 pods of 8 and played 3 rounds mixing the pods each time.

Round 1 I get stalled on land so the rest of the table attacked me a little, but overall mostly ignored me. I ended up getting propaganda and ghostly prison in play (since I was stuck on 3 land, why not!). The sens trips player played desolation angel with kicker, while the kira player used blue leyline to flash in a sower and take the angel, then unmorphed his shapeshifter to copy the angel. He killed the other two players, but once they were dead he couldn't attack me. I ended up drawing a few lands, playing the mana artifacts that I had drawn, and getting back in the game. I killed him, but his biggest complain was that he eliminated 2 other players yet received no points for it. We did discuss that I think he made a play error by killing both other players. Given the point system he should have let one, or both, of the other players live to help deal with me.

Round 2 we went to time, barely. Lots of stuff happened and I remember very little. I stopped the teeg player form killing the kira player who then built up a solid board position but I was viewed as the threat some how. There was some very very poor threat assessment going on.

Round 3 is why I was getting the hate afterward. The game was land, land + talisman of progress, land + general (who got STP'd), future sight, geddon + land... it went on from there but two of the players had only one land to follow up after the geddon.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
Yah, no one likes him tho. I get told I suck the fun out of the game when I play that deck... que segue...

so we had our first (and last?) EDH tournament today and I used Grand Arbiter. The EDH players seemed not very interested in the first place. The rule set was also a little off, but then again people weren't playing to take advantage of the rules either. The rules were if you were in the game when time finished (90min) then you got 2 points and if you were last man standing in your pod you got 3 points. There was also a single point for playing each round, not sure why. We had 8 people show so we did 2 pods of 8 and played 3 rounds mixing the pods each time.

Round 1 I get stalled on land so the rest of the table attacked me a little, but overall mostly ignored me. I ended up getting propaganda and ghostly prison in play (since I was stuck on 3 land, why not!). The sens trips player played desolation angel with kicker, while the kira player used blue leyline to flash in a sower and take the angel, then unmorphed his shapeshifter to copy the angel. He killed the other two players, but once they were dead he couldn't attack me. I ended up drawing a few lands, playing the mana artifacts that I had drawn, and getting back in the game. I killed him, but his biggest complain was that he eliminated 2 other players yet received no points for it. We did discuss that I think he made a play error by killing both other players. Given the point system he should have let one, or both, of the other players live to help deal with me.

Round 2 we went to time, barely. Lots of stuff happened and I remember very little. I stopped the teeg player form killing the kira player who then built up a solid board position but I was viewed as the threat some how. There was some very very poor threat assessment going on.

Round 3 is why I was getting the hate afterward. The game was land, land + talisman of progress, land + general (who got STP'd), future sight, geddon + land... it went on from there but two of the players had only one land to follow up after the geddon.

My biggest issue with this whole thing was partially the point system. Our players here have an inherent dislike of arbitrary loss of point or gaining point type of system. Taking extra turns or countering spells shouldn't be off limits (aka, playing blue). I think most people just prefer a casual league environment where playing to win doesn't really get you anywhere. I think people expected me to be playing in a tournament for fun, but it seems like that wouldn't be happening if your primary goal is to win. You've gotta make someone unhappy along the way.

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I agree with the guy from your first match. There should be points or some sort of reason to actually kill people. If there isn't why should i not make a deck where i sit back and try not to die.

Last man standing got 3 points.

Seemed to work well, things I would have changed is add bonus points per pod.

Say points for most players killed, etc..

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
I agree with the guy from your first match. There should be points or some sort of reason to actually kill people. If there isn't why should i not make a deck where i sit back and try not to die.

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
Can a store that is holding a sanctioned EDH tournament state that you can't use a specific card as a commander?

Thanks,
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EDH is not a sanctionable format.

That said, stores can have their own house list of banned cards/commanders. Just the same as any playgroup can.

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Originally posted by iccarus:
[B their own house list of banned cards/commanders. Just the same as any playgroup can.
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Let me preface this by saying that I personally don't play combo in EDH:

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Originally posted by choco man:
Let me preface this by saying that I personally don't play combo in EDH:

Having a playgroup/personal banlist is weak.

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I can see the reasons for it. Our store banned Emrakul weeks before it was official. Everyone was pretty happy about the move at the time.

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Originally posted by iccarus:
EDH is not a sanctionable format.

That said, stores can have their own house list of banned cards/commanders. Just the same as any playgroup can.

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Yet, who knows what the future holds for it.

Bosium Strip
Amulet of Unmaking
Deserted Temple
Every broken Blue enchantment from Legends
Puppet Strings
Fodder Cannon
Xenic Poltergeist
Mwonvuli Acid-Moss
Dominating Licid
Crackdown

A glimpse at some of the new generals.

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Originally posted by iccarus:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg%2Fdaily%2Farcana%2F683

A glimpse at some of the new generals.

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At least by seeing the one we know they all won't be huge cost at the one is 1W so likely 4 casting.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
At least by seeing the one we know they all won't be huge cost at the one is 1W so likely 4 casting.

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Yeah, all the ones on the right side appear to be in the 4cc to 5cc range. Assuming it's a single color mana cost on each wedge.

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Originally posted by stacker:
can someone point me towards a good karn edh list? im looking to get into edh

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Add in mana rocks, eldrazi; and Mind's Eye

go go go, olay olay olay.

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Originally posted by joz:
Add in mana rocks, eldrazi; and Mind's Eye

go go go, olay olay olay.

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I think having a Vedalken Orrery in your list is much more important than Eldrazi's and Mind's Eye. Since your deck would be colorless, Vedalken Orrery is the only real way of playing instants in your deck. The card just enables you to play better magic.

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Originally posted by choco man:
I think having a Vedalken Orrery in your list is much more important than Eldrazi's and Mind's Eye. Since your deck would be colorless, Vedalken Orrery is the only real way of playing instants in your deck. The card just enables you to play better magic.

I think Mind's Eye is over-rated big time anyways. The card makes you a big target and ties up your mana.

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Shimmer Myr is fun too.

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