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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Is trying to win with 40 overall damage more efficient than 21 commander damage? I suppose it depends on your general. But just wondering if there is a good amount of consistency in trying to focus on one creature for beating face. Maybe an evasive commander like Xiahou Dun, but is it actually a strategy to equip and enchant the hell out of the commander?

Seems like it would be an interesting mode of play; only general damage counts.

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Uril would probably run that format.

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
I was also thinking Rafiq. He's totally in colors for pumping and control or unblockability.

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Are you playing Elves? If so yes.

It likely is good for any deck built on a Tribe.

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Is trying to win with 40 overall damage more efficient than 21 commander damage? I suppose it depends on your general. But just wondering if there is a good amount of consistency in trying to focus on one creature for beating face. Maybe an evasive commander like Xiahou Dun, but is it actually a strategy to equip and enchant the hell out of the commander?

Seems like it would be an interesting mode of play; only general damage counts.

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There's nuts stuff like Xiahou + Hatred. Problem is that (1) People do play some horsemanship (2) They could otherwise kill Xiahou after you pay 18 life. (3) You have to play monoblack, which only has excessively inefficient ways to kill target enchantment/artifact.

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Well, i don't only necessarily mean Xiahou. Just in general, do people ever try to build aggressive decks based off that 21 damage? Does it happen? I kinda want to try.

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Originally posted by ninjazwig:
Sure, you may see them called "voltron" decks. The idea is to smash face with the commander, my Omnath deck is based around this idea. Uril would be a good example as well, and Rafiq could go either way.

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I should build a deck like this but I'm always concerend with Generals who do cool things.

Right now i have a Maya the Anima deck which is just filled with big fatties.

My other deck is a Blue/White with Hanna so i could return cool artifacts and enchantments.

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Originally posted by fluffycow:
Did anybody else know that bargain is banned? I dropped it in three games and obviously won all three games before someone looked it up and told me that the card was ridiculous and I was cheating...oops.

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Originally posted by sammyt125:
I know that it is banned, but am not surprised when others don't. When you can play Necropotence, it just stands to reason you should be able to play Bargain as well.

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Bargain is broken because you can draw at any time and with the large life pool its insane. With Necro you can only re-fill at EoT

Bargain is my favourite card and had a signature to this !

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Bargain is broken because you can draw at any time and with the large life pool its insane. With Necro you can only re-fill at EoT

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Originally posted by CoupDeGrace:
U can use bargain as an instant to draw "counters". Anyway, i am not surprised that bargain is banned at EDH! It is better than Necropotence due to this.

Bargain is my favourite card and had a signature to this !

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Originally posted by airwalk:
Is there a special type of EDH played where people don't use any restrictions? I see people flopping down Moxes and Libraries around here... it's more like 100 card singleton Vintage with a General. I don't think they are playing 5 color because I havn't seen any Contract from Below's.

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I ought to just look stuff up before i open my mouth...

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
I thought wizards picked it up though, so they should have an actual banned list, right?

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they are letting the EDH rule's committee maintain control over the format's ban list.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
they are letting the EDH rule's committee maintain control over the format's ban list.

and no, bargain should not be unbanned. It shouldn't have been printed, let alone be allowed in play.

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Originally posted by ninjazwig:
It says right on the main page of the commander home page that the banned list is only a suggestion.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
they are letting the EDH rule's committee maintain control over the format's ban list.

and no, bargain should not be unbanned. It shouldn't have been printed, let alone be allowed in play.

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So many good decks

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Originally posted by ninjazwig:
It says right on the main page of the commander home page that the banned list is only a suggestion.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
yes, but its good to have standards. ITs my laggest issue with "suggested" banned lists. I live ~3 hours from where I play PTQs/states/etc and I love getting pick up games goign w/ people I don't play with all the time. If we all have our own banned lists it makes it an issue to play vs each other if they bust out w/ a bargain and its something strictly off limits in my play group.

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It's a suggested ban list in the sense that nobody will play with you if you don't follow it because you are "cheating" by not following the "ban list".