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Originally posted by Mr.C:
Shimmer Myr is fun too.

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Truth be that; hilarious card; eot lots of mana rocks comeing into play lol.

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I play sol ring, monolith, monolith, darksteel, coldsteel, and vault, my turn?

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Originally posted by joz:
Truth be that; hilarious card; eot lots of mana rocks comeing into play lol.

End of your turn...

I play sol ring, monolith, monolith, darksteel, coldsteel, and vault, my turn?

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Why would you tap grim monolith to play basalt monolith? And then tap basalt to play darksteel ingot? You should trying to build mana, trading 3 mana for 1 mana seems bad unless you have a voltaic key.

Even then, you're opening yourself to a huge blowout when someone destroys your mana stones. EDH players play out their acceleration too early a lot of times. Artifact accel is much easier to deal with than land ramp. Plan ahead and don' play your monoliths before you need them.

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Originally posted by choco man:
Why would you tap grim monolith to play basalt monolith? And then tap basalt to play darksteel ingot? You should trying to build mana, trading 3 mana for 1 mana seems bad unless you have a voltaic key.

Even then, you're opening yourself to a huge blowout when someone destroys your mana stones. EDH players play out their acceleration too early a lot of times. Artifact accel is much easier to deal with than land ramp. Plan ahead and don' play your monoliths before you need them.

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I never said it had to be that particular order...jeeeze.

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
I thought i recently read that clone won't kill Generals. If two people are playing the same general, or one general comes out and that legend is played from a deck normally... What kinds of rules are on this?

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I believe you are correct on this they are unaffected by the Legend rule

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Originally posted by fluffycow:
What's the edh ruling on things like felidar soverign snd serra acsendant?

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
I believe you are correct on this they are unaffected by the Legend rule

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So i suppose two of the same nongeneral legend played from decks regularly would be offed though?

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Now if only there were a b/r legendary vamp, because nothing in magic excites me more than the idea of sexy vampire women having free reign upon the meek while the night sky rains blood and fire.
I'm stuck with ugly, boring, Garza Zol and i don't even want to play blue (except for Blood Tyrant which would be epic). Suppose once i'm done with mono black i will pick out a decent nonvamp b/r general but i've kind of been avoiding it.

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
I thought i recently read that clone won't kill Generals. If two people are playing the same general, or one general comes out and that legend is played from a deck normally... What kinds of rules are on this?

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Working on my "MOTL EDH" Deck and trying to figure out what general to run.

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
So i suppose two of the same nongeneral legend played from decks regularly would be offed though?

So, if i go with a b/r general, who do you think might be best suited for me to kind of keep the theme, in any way, since there's no b/r vamps. There will also be plenty of zombies. In my fantasy theme they are nulls, subservient servants to vampires.

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Correct, or if you play a non-General legend when the General is out only the non-General legend dies.

I thought there was a Red Black Vampie type legend, i forget the name but he costs like 5RB.

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I searched he looks like a vamp to me

Card Name:
Kaervek the Merciless
Mana Cost:
5BlackRed
Converted Mana Cost:
7

Types:
Legendary Creature — Human Shaman
Card Text:
Whenever an opponent casts a spell, Kaervek the Merciless deals damage to target creature or player equal to that spell's converted mana cost.
Flavor Text:
"Rats and jackals feast in his swath, but even they will not walk with him."
—Mangara

You do have a Blue Red Black Vamp

Garza Zol, Plague Queen 4BlueBlackRed (7)
Legendary Creature — Vampire (5/5)

Flying, haste

Whenever a creature dealt damage by Garza Zol, Plague Queen this turn is put into a graveyard, put a +1/+1 counter on Garza Zol.

Whenever Garza Zol deals combat damage to a player, you may draw a card.

Or a Blood Witch
Lyzolda, the Blood Witch 1BlackRed (3)
Legendary Creature — Human Cleric (3/1)

2, Sacrifice a creature: Lyzolda, the Blood Witch deals 2 damage to target creature or player if the sacrificed creature was red. Draw a card if the sacrificed creature was black.

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Originally posted by WCFmo:
Who is a good 5 color general that is relatively cheap in foil? Next question, even more important...such that a deck would not necessarily have to be built around him?

Working on my "MOTL EDH" Deck and trying to figure out what general to run.

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Horde of Notions, he has neat abilities but they don't force you to use him.

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Originally posted by WCFmo:
Who is a good 5 color general that is relatively cheap in foil? Next question, even more important...such that a deck would not necessarily have to be built around him?

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You can find foil sliver overlords pretty cheap, if you get the slivers premium one. You don't have to build around him, but he has good utility in grabbing stuff like Harmonic/Necrotic sliver. You can even go with Amoeboid Changeling if you want to be really evil.

EDIT: Also agree that foil Horde shouldn't be too bad either. Even just sometimes using him to get back Shriekmaw/Muldrifter/Crib Swap is good enough.

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Originally posted by iccarus:

EDIT: Also agree that foil Horde shouldn't be too bad either. Even just sometimes using him to get back Shriekmaw/Muldrifter/Crib Swap is good enough.

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Yeah, I think I'll go w/ Horde of Notions as OGB is sending me a Crib Swap - fact that you mentioned it means I'll have some amount of synergy. BTW, the "MOTL EDH" thing is that I'm asking people to throw in foils signed by themselves and hopefully put them all together to make a fun EDH deck.

Wonder if Leshrac would sign a card? Hmmm...

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Kaervek The Merciless

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Garza Zol, Plague Queen
This one i mentioned in my post. I don't really like grixis colors, they irritate me. I wouldn't even be running counters anyway. With blue i'd have Garza, Blood Tyrant, and whatever grixis cascade/unearth stuff there is. I just didn't want it to be blue, really Garza was just an excuse to play b/r vamps and still have vamp general.
In those lines though there is also Szadek. But it's not red and blue is meh. I thought he might be an exciting thing to play with in Garza though.

Lyzolda, the Blood Witch
This seems pretty flavorful, if only it was a lifelinked shock. Goes great with unearther effects i want to add in, and things like Pawn of Ulamog, Grave Pact, Butcher of Malakir. I'm just a bit low on ideas for red creatures so i worry it will only be a Skulltap on a stick.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
so I might have mentioned this briefly before, but I was curious about a mana flare based deck. It would be naya with heartbeat of spring, mana flare, keeper of progenitus, mana reflection, mirarri's wake, and I'm sure I'm missing another one or two. I guess the big question is what to do w/ all this mana? Thats where I get lost... anyone want to throw ideas my way (something besides bad X spells like fireball)? Helix pinnacle is about as far as I've gotten. Is this maybe just a sub-theme of a Mayael the Anima deck? or could something more be made of it...

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Comet Storm isn't the worst X spell in the world, you could probably play that.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
so I might have mentioned this briefly before, but I was curious about a mana flare based deck. It would be naya with heartbeat of spring, mana flare, keeper of progenitus, mana reflection, mirarri's wake, and I'm sure I'm missing another one or two. I guess the big question is what to do w/ all this mana? Thats where I get lost... anyone want to throw ideas my way (something besides bad X spells like fireball)? Helix pinnacle is about as far as I've gotten. Is this maybe just a sub-theme of a Mayael the Anima deck? or could something more be made of it...

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There's a Rosheen Meanderer deck at the store that goes for the big mana spells. Some of the win cons are things like Gelatinous Genesis, Genesis Wave, Comet Storm, and Wurmcalling.

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Originally posted by jaromirjagr:
how does spawnsire of ulamog work in edh?If you have 50 artisan of kozileks in a pile do you get to put all of them into play?

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Originally posted by jaromirjagr:
how does spawnsire of ulamog work in edh?If you have 50 artisan of kozileks in a pile do you get to put all of them into play?

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Originally posted by ninjazwig:

He doesn't work at all, things that use cards from outside the game do nothing in EDH. Wishes fetch nothing.

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Not True there is a 10 card sideboard for Tournies

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Originally posted by potaguitar:
I want to make an EDH deck with Hikori, Dust Drinker as the general but I'm sure all of my friends will murder me. Is there any other good white/partially white generals that are kind of taxy/staxy? Maybe something like Grand Arbiter? Don't really want to play blue though..

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Originally posted by ninjazwig:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by WeedIan:
Not True there is a 10 card sideboard for Tournies

He was talking about casting fifty cards, I don't think he was talking about tournaments. Also EDH tournaments have ruined this format for me. It was fun before it became cutthroat. I can't sit down anywhere without someone trying to combo out on turn two. It's time for me to move on to a new format I think.

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