it blocks alot of the flyers that see play
reusable flyer killer, even more so in group games

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Originally posted by helpmehelpyou:
anyone have any success with silklash spider?

it blocks alot of the flyers that see play
reusable flyer killer, even more so in group games

but then agian its more or less just a wall
and it dont protect itself, other then being large.

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I've been thinking about getting a copy...but so far I'vent been able to justify it since all the other cards I'm running let me win the game, versus the spider just slowing down the rare flying creature.

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Originally posted by helpmehelpyou:
anyone have any success with silklash spider?

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I run it in a few decks, especially in color pairs that don't have access to many board wipes. I can think of a few times it has been really good, as well as a few where it got auto-pitched to survival.

On another note, I'm abandoning my plans for a creatureless control EDH. While I think I came up with a decent list, I realized it didn't really have a good way to just finish up a multi-player game without running a combo-finish. Boooooring.

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Originally posted by JensK:
Which of the new pre-con Commander decks is the best? For single player and for multiplayer? And what cards should you add to make it even better?

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Counterpunch or Devour for Power are the two best.

Mimeoplasm and Damia are both insane generals, and Teneb is also good as well.

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Which of the new pre-con Commander decks is the best? For single player and for multiplayer? And what cards should you add to make it even better?

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Which of the new pre-con Commander decks is the best? For single player and for multiplayer? And what cards should you add to make it even better?

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My big catch is that other than ole Kaervek, my deck has no creatures and I want it to stay that way. What are some good solutions? So far I've come up with Chaos Warp and Disk for the enchantments and maybe Lux Cannon, though that's slow.

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Originally posted by Kryne:
I've got a BR Kaervek hate deck and am having trouble with Gaddock Teeg and enchantment removal (surprise, surprise).

My big catch is that other than ole Kaervek, my deck has no creatures and I want it to stay that way. What are some good solutions? So far I've come up with Chaos Warp and Disk for the enchantments and maybe Lux Cannon, though that's slow.

For Teeg, I run both Pestilence and Pyrohemia (red pestilence) and that seems to work if I can get and stick Kaervek, but I'd like a more elegant solution other than running Terminate/Doom Blade/etc. EDIT: Also decree of pain is clutch.

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Originally posted by choco man:
Is poison still 10 in Edh?

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Yes, unless house rules are different.

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Yes. There has been no official rules changes to bump it up yet. Not sure if it will happen though. Possibly if something like infect ever gets pushed again.

Dedicated poison is not really that good outside of a few specific strategies. About the only time I've seen it effective is through Skittles as the general, or random tainted strike/triumph of the hordes blowouts.

Sadly, my regular group has a house rule putting it to 15. I tried building a BUG version, but it just can't quite get there.

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Yes, unless house rules are different.

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I guess thats the problem.

Half of the players at my store insist its 10, the other half state that the "new EDH rules" are 15. I suppose they made a house rule that they portray as real rules.

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I guess thats the problem.

Half of the players at my store insist its 10, the other half state that the "new EDH rules" are 15. I suppose they made a house rule that they portray as real rules.

I'll let you guess which half has the better players.

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I guess thats the problem.

Half of the players at my store insist its 10, the other half state that the "new EDH rules" are 15. I suppose they made a house rule that they portray as real rules.

I'll let you guess which half has the better players.

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I don't guess, I make educated decisions based on unknown variables.

But, I'm going to say the guys that stick with 10 psn.

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Originally posted by iccarus:
Dedicated poison is not really that good outside of a few specific strategies. About the only time I've seen it effective is through Skittles as the general, or random tainted strike/triumph of the hordes blowouts.

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Who is 'Skittles'?

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Who is 'Skittles'?

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Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon

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Originally posted by -Lunch_Box-:
I have been considering picking up an Imperial Recruiter for its general utility in my Brion Stoutarm EDH. Any good combos/synergies with him and Kiki-Jiki in R/W?

Outside of those colors what are some more of the big, essentially one card, combos like Kiki/Pestermite?

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Sadly, my regular group has a house rule putting it to 15. I tried building a BUG version, but it just can't quite get there.

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I don't have to play anymore right now, but i was setting aside cards to build Damia infect. i suppose mimeoplasm could be a huge infect general but i thought with how weak the creatures in poison are a good draw would be best.
i had been building it is as a 1v1 deck, you just aren't going to get there in a 4 player free for all.
run a small contingent of reanimate removal and counters and mostly focus on your creatures getting in there with unblockable effects and god equi[s and such. green has several overrun effects that totally rock. run utility creatures that support your deck or mess with someone else's. kiku, visara, avatar, royal assassin type things is what i'm going for.
then copy effects too. and you are in good colors fr tutors, no less.

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I don't have to play anymore right now, but i was setting aside cards to build Damia infect. i suppose mimeoplasm could be a huge infect general but i thought with how weak the creatures in poison are a good draw would be best.
i had been building it is as a 1v1 deck, you just aren't going to get there in a 4 player free for all.
run a small contingent of reanimate removal and counters and mostly focus on your creatures getting in there with unblockable effects and god equi[s and such. green has several overrun effects that totally rock. run utility creatures that support your deck or mess with someone else's. kiku, visara, avatar, royal assassin type things is what i'm going for.
then copy effects too. and you are in good colors fr tutors, no less.

i don't know, like i said i haven't actually finished and can't so i don't know, but it sounds like that might be pretty solid in 1v1 edh.

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I built it with Mimeoplasm as the general. I figured my dead infect creatures + fatties in opponents' yards would make for some pretty scary win conditions.

I have a small reanimation and recursion focus as well (Phyrexian Reclamation, Living Death, Beacon of Unrest) and I'm running a decent number of proliferate stuff as well, which would be good in theory. A little pump also, especially stuff that grants shroud (Vines and Stonewood Invocation).

I've only run the deck once and it did take someone out at 15 poison. There just aren't that many infect creatures that are really worth running.

Quicksilver Dagger + Mind Over Matter.

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I've only run the deck once and it did take someone out at 15 poison. There just aren't that many infect creatures that are really worth running.

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Even though my former Rafiq deck had a serious infect slant and racked up a lot of infect kills, I only played Inkmoth Nexus and Viridian Corrupter. And NO Grafted Exoskeleton.

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I've only run the deck once and it did take someone out at 15 poison. There just aren't that many infect creatures that are really worth running.

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Don't forget stuff like Marsh Viper and Suq'Ata Assassin, and Serpent Generator.
I'm not saying they're good, but i just was going to try every creature who could poison all at once. The point is to basically cheap shot someone anyway, they don't always have to be good. In EDH it would really really help though.
And i forgot to mention that about Proliferate. All the proliferate is in BUG and artifacts basically.

Lol if they try to Leeches at 9 poison and you use it as Fuel for the Cause.

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Even though my former Rafiq deck had a serious infect slant and racked up a lot of infect kills, I only played Inkmoth Nexus and Viridian Corrupter. And NO Grafted Exoskeleton.

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It had a serious infect slant with two infect cards?
Infect is hard even though you racked up a lot of poison kills with two cards?