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Thanos
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posted June 20, 2011 02:06 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Discussion continue...
 
joz
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part two isn't closed yet.

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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
part two isn't closed yet.


It hit 300, it was fair game.

 
daner
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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
part two isn't closed yet.


If we wanted your opinion, we'd ban you and edit your response to our liking.

 
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Anyway...

After getting an oversized card of Basandra, I've decided to build a deck for her intended to just flat-out **** with the combat phase. Weirdly for a R/W deck, the goal is to put in a bunch of really defensive creatures and then just use Basandra's activated ability to screw with other people's creatures and make them attack each other. It's not intended to be anything strong, just something goofy and fun I can play a few times and maybe keep for the more casual games.

So far this is my list of "defend myself" spells- (* is for cards I don't own yet)

Angelic Chorus
Deftblade Elite
Sunweb
Darien, King of Kjeldor (obvious lulz with Angelic Chorus)
Ironfist Crusher
Indomitable Ancients (still a fair amount of lulz with Angelic Chorus)
Wall of Shards
Lairwatch Giant
AEther membrane
Windborn Muse
Hedron-Field Purists
Island Sanctuary
Aurification
Deftblade Elite
Wall of Reverence
Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker
Ghostly Prison*
Moat*
Magus of the Moat*
Crawlspace*
Commander Eesha*
Cards to just mess with other people when Basandra is out -

War Cadence ("You with the Ulamog and [EDIT: Red, to clarify] Akroma, go kill Mr. Tokens over there")
Battle Strain
Righteous Cause
Lust For War
Wing Shards (disgusting)
Dispense Justice (slightly less disgusting)
Lieutenant Kirtar
Divine Verdict
Second Thoughts
Condemn
Bullwhip* (basandra redundancy)
Lightmine Field* (ahahaha you shall all die)
Boros Guildmage*
Powerstone Minefield*

Suggestions? Anything I've missed?

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by Bugger on June 20, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
It hit 300, it was fair game.

No, no it was not. At least the other thread was ready to be retired, though, so I'll let it stand.

quote:
Originally posted by Forum Rules:
When threads reach 300 or more replies in length, a moderator will close the thread and a new continuation thread may be started. Please do not post a continuation thread before the old thread has been closed, even if it has reached 300 replies.

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So, I took apart Devour for Power and Counterpunch today and tried to make a reanimator/graveyard shenangins deck based around Mimoplasm, finding and piching Domina and some huge arbitrary fatty, piching cards to graveyard and reaping huge draws...

and then I realized..my card pool sucks.

grrrr.

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by joz on June 20, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
No, no it was not. At least the other thread was ready to be retired, though, so I'll let it stand.


You just rewrote that rule, I don't remember it saying exactly that

 
Sovarius
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
I've decided to build a deck for her intended to just flat-out **** with the combat phase.

Don't forget every effect that says "Here's an additional combat phase for ya ", especially the instant speed one to be used on someone else's turn. And the recurring Waves of Agression and Hellkite Charger.
And also Fight to the Death is extremely rude.
I can't find it but i thought i card something like "you control/decide how creatures attack and block this turn".
Glory of Warfare. The red and white Vows. Blazing Archon.

 
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I believe the one that lets you decide attacking and blocking is Master Warcraft or something like that.

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quote:
Originally posted by eXtremeEagle:
I believe the one that lets you decide attacking and blocking is Master Warcraft or something like that.


No, you are correct with Master Warcraft.

 
nderdog
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quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
You just rewrote that rule, I don't remember it saying exactly that

That rule hasn't been touched in years.

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quote:
Originally posted by nderdog:
That rule hasn't been touched in years.


Well in that case I must subconsciously think I'm above the rules and surely need to be smacked

 
Bugger
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Thanks for the suggestions, sovarius! And yeah, Master Warcraft is the one that controls the combat phase.

Changing gears a bit, I'm building around the other new generals I picked up last friday as well. So far this is what I'm testing with Riku:

Creatures:
Hydra Omnivore
Edric, Spymaster of Trest
Magus of the Vineyard
Magmatic Force
Consecrated Sphinx
Deadwood Treefolk
Avenger of Zendikar
Veteran Explorer
Baloth Woodcrasher
Mulldrifter
Rapacious One
Fierce Empath
Avatar of Fury
Overbeing of Myth
Body Double
Pelakka Wurm
Woodfall Primus
Eternal Witness
Artisan of Kozilek
Oracle of Mul Daya
Indrik Stomphowler
Genesis
Trench Gorger
Simic Sky Swallower
Nucklavee
Spitebellows

Artifacts/Enchantments/Planeswalkers:
Garruk Wildspeaker
Vow of Lightning
Prophetic Prism
Gruul Signet
Izzet Signet
Vow of Flight
Simic Signet
Armillary Sphere
Vow of Wildness
Sol Ring
Lightning Greaves

Instants/Sorceries:
Tribute to the Wild
Rite of Replication
Hull Breach
Kodama's Reach
Spitting Image
Chain Reaction
Invigorate
Primal Command
Green Sun's Zenith
All Sun's Dawn
Disaster Radius
Call the Skybreaker
Cultivate
Death By Dragons
Savage Twister
Spell Crumple
Prophetic Bolt
Explosive Vegetation
Hunting Pack
Collective Voyage
Brainstorm
Ray of Command
Vengeful Rebirth

Really the gameplan is pretty much "get Riku out, do crazy stuff". He's a strong enough card that you don't really need a top-notch decklist for him to be powerful. Hopefully this'll be good for my playgroup haha.

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Must ask all these legit posters

What are the top 25 fatties you would play in Mayael of the Anima?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
Must ask all these legit posters

What are the top 25 fatties you would play in Mayael of the Anima?


Avenger of Zendikar
Primeval Titan
Inferno Titan
Sun Titan
Terastodon
Woodfall Primus
Spearbreaker Behemoth
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Twilight Shepherd
Yosei, the Morning Star
Regal Force
Hateflayer (maybe not, personal favorite)
Vorinclex (i.e Green Preator)
Bogardan Hellkite
Sundering Titan
Blightsteel Colossus
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
Platinum Emperion
Steel Hellkite

Off the top of my head. Sorry it isn't 25, but it is a start.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by sammyt125:
Avenger of Zendikar
Primeval Titan
Inferno Titan
Sun Titan
Terastodon
Woodfall Primus
Spearbreaker Behemoth
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Twilight Shepherd
Yosei, the Morning Star
Regal Force
Hateflayer (maybe not, personal favorite)
Vorinclex (i.e Green Preator)
Bogardan Hellkite
Sundering Titan
Blightsteel Colossus
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
Platinum Emperion
Steel Hellkite

Off the top of my head. Sorry it isn't 25, but it is a start.


Add in both Akromas. I'll back you up on Hateflayer tho, that thing's awesome.
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
It that Betrays is pretty gross, as is Pathrazer of Ulamog.

It's a shame Elesh Norn and Reya aren't 5 power, they're amazing.


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I'm going to start playing with WorldGorger combo since apparently I can now. (Why did they do that?) (WHY?)

So I'm debating between Grixis build or the all in Scion of ur dragon build (note that scion directly places dragon into the yard). Which do you think would be better?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
I'm going to start playing with WorldGorger combo since apparently I can now. (Why did they do that?) (WHY?)

So I'm debating between Grixis build or the all in Scion of ur dragon build (note that scion directly places dragon into the yard). Which do you think would be better?


G/B/r shell

That way you can run:

Buried Alive
Survival of the Fittest
Birthing Pod
Demonic Tutor
Diabolic Tutor
Vampiric Tutor
Worldly Tutor
Grim Tutor
Impieral Seal
Cruel Tutor
Demonic Collusions
Sylvan Tutor
Animate Dead
Corpse Connoisseur
Entomb
Liliana Vess
Primal Command
Beseech the Queen
Brainspoil
Brutalizer Exarch
Chord of Calling
Citanul Flute
Corpse Harvester
Crop Rotation
Diabolic Intent
Expedition Map
Fauna Shaman
Fleshwrither (search for Connoisseur)
Green Sun's Zenith
Hibernation's End
Reanimate
Beacon of Unrest
Netherborn Phalanx
Protean Hulk (if it ever gets unbanned)
Shred Memory
Summoner's Pact
Bog Witch
Emmessi Tome
Greenseeker
Devoted Druid
Mindless Automaton
Mind's Eye
Sculpting Steel
Necropotence
Nihilistic Glee
Oath of Lim-Dûl
Life from the Loam
Reclaim
Regrowth
Tortured Existence
Undead Gladiator


etc...
tutor it up.

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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
I'm going to start playing with WorldGorger combo since apparently I can now. (Why did they do that?) (WHY?)

So I'm debating between Grixis build or the all in Scion of ur dragon build (note that scion directly places dragon into the yard). Which do you think would be better?


Green only gives you survival and fauna shaman mainly, even those cards don't make a version jund worth playing over grixis version.

If you're going to play dragon combo, might as well play all 5 colors. O just play Hermit Druid combo instead.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
Green only gives you survival and fauna shaman mainly, even those cards don't make a version jund worth playing over grixis version.

If you're going to play dragon combo, might as well play all 5 colors. O just play Hermit Druid combo instead.


I'm putting it in my Scion of the Ur-Dragon deck with the Hermit Druid, Crypt Champion, Saffi Errikson, Call of the Claw combo.

 
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Finally actually played my Thraximudar I-sacrifice-stuff-and-profit-and-it-just-hurts-you deck.
Off the bat i get Coffin Queen and Soulless One although they aren't doing too much. Then i hit Beseech the Queen for Grave Pact so some ball buster would stop attacking me for 4 lifelink. And because Grave Pact is the whole purpose of the deck anyway.
One's playing Sharuum trying to combo off asap and gets Thopter Assembly out, the third player Disfigures my Coffin Queen so Assembly is put into the yard from Grave Pact, and immediately picked up by my Animate Dead. I get the tokens next round and drop Grave Titan.
The third player is dropping weird kinds of Thrinaxes and eating them all by himself, all the while fueling my Dross Harvester.
I get Small Pox but no major sac engine has gotten online so my army isn't being as fun as i want. Small Pox hurts a lot with G-Pact in play from what i can tell Sharuum player chooses his discard to be Sphinx Sovereign, i guess Animate Dead is not a big enough hint to knock that sort of thing off. It was Necromanced asap as well.
But shortly after Sharuum hits a Black Sun for 7 and wipes everything out.
Then next turn he proceeds to fail on his Thopter-Combo (he probably would have got it if he just waited, be probably also was counting on me killing with Thraximundar which i had forgotten about) and quit, the third guy just quits as well after that because he had to be home.

Just when i was starting to get going, but i still never got a reusable sac effect going.

quote:
Originally posted by Meddling Pimp:
Saffi Errikson

Daughter, not son

 
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saffi eriksdotter
your welcome
 
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http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5691/photo0577i.jpg

New general found in 1x Mailbox.


FT: 1x house to pay for the cards I will need for new general.

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I figured you were the same joz, but that confirms it

That's not a Gus alter, is it?

 

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