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Originally posted by choco man:
Well, it's suppose to be casual. Unfortunately, you might have to play decks at other people's level.

I deconstructed my Azami deck 2 years ago.

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Casual doesn't mean intending to have a very bad deck.
It's not an excuse not to think about what you really want in your deck.
It's not an excuse to discredit any deck you can't beat as overpowered.
It's not an excuse to make intelligent deckbuilders look like *******s.
I am sick of this casual made of carebears and fuzzy feelings. It's a game, there are ways to even the odds, but the worst deck ALSO have to make efforts to meet in the middle. Interestingly, playing 1v2 against the worst decks made for even games, and we all had fun.

Ran a Horde of Notions, Tribal Elemental deck for a long time that did well enough...

and yea I hear you on the anti-mass removal binge people seem to have...peoples ability to use proper threat assesement is...lacking..

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Originally posted by yukizora:
Casual doesn't mean intending to have a very bad deck.
It's not an excuse not to think about what you really want in your deck.
It's not an excuse to discredit any deck you can't beat as overpowered.
It's not an excuse to make intelligent deckbuilders look like *******s.
I am sick of this casual made of carebears and fuzzy feelings. It's a game, there are ways to even the odds, but the worst deck ALSO have to make efforts to meet in the middle. Interestingly, playing 1v2 against the worst decks made for even games, and we all had fun.

Usually I play multiplayer EDH along with a friend, and we setup some implicit alliance not to get kicked out of the game. We both have decks tailored for 1v1, so it's our only hope to survive the stupid no-removal EDH metagame. Cause, in multiplayer, you're getting focused after your first board sweeper for no strategic reason. It's just stupid.

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For fun, I love playing the GWB and the GBU the most. For customization the GBU would be my vote for best, it seems to have a less strict theme than the others.

RWU - Defensive, give permanents to other players
RWB - Angels/Demons/Dragons for Kaalia to cheat into play
GWB - Tokens and cards that take advantage of disposable creatures
RUG - Copying, spells and creatures that are strong in multiples
GBU - More of a goodstuff deck with strong creatures Mimeoplasm can copy, milling to support this

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Originally posted by eXtremeEagle:
In terms of value, the RWU has probably the two most expensive cards. GBU has plenty of good cards that aren't the most expensive but still have value(O-Stone, Grave Pact, Solemn.)

For fun, I love playing the GWB and the GBU the most. For customization the GBU would be my vote for best, it seems to have a less strict theme than the others.

RWU - Defensive, give permanents to other players
RWB - Angels/Demons/Dragons for Kaalia to cheat into play
GWB - Tokens and cards that take advantage of disposable creatures
RUG - Copying, spells and creatures that are strong in multiples
GBU - More of a goodstuff deck with strong creatures Mimeoplasm can copy, milling to support this

I've seen a few eBay auctions for all five together at less than 150 including shipping, but not many for each individually less than 30.

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Hopefully the younger players understand. They attack me to force me to use mass removal, instead of letting me alone until turn 10. This is challenging/interesting/balanced.

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Originally posted by eXtremeEagle:
I've seen a few eBay auctions for all five together at less than 150 including shipping, but not many for each individually less than 30.

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Strike Zone had the set of 5 at Gencon for $90 or $100.

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Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
Strike Zone had the set of 5 at Gencon for $90 or $100.

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Originally posted by Havoc Demon:
So how many EDH decks do you guys have built? I have two put together and just deconstructed my third one partially to getting bored with it/not having enough time to play all three.

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I currently have 8 built, with pieces for two more ready to go. Once I have one put together they tend to stay that way, unless I need the majority of a deck for something else. I also get bored easily and brainstorm new lists all the time. If I like the way something looks on paper I start putting it together to try out.

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G/W (Gaddock Teeg) - creatures, equipment, tutors (Enlightened Tutor, Sterling Grove), creature removal, enchantment/artifact removal, Squirrel Nest + Earthcraft. Only creature spells cost 4 or more.

U/B (Sygg, River Cutthroat) - Trinket Mage, Treasure Mage, Jace TMS, card draw, evasive creatures that draw cards (Mulldrifter, Shadowmage Infiltrator, Thieving Magpie), creatures that kill other creatures (Shriekmaw, Nekrataal), Mystical Teachings, Mystical Tutor, and tons of targets, although I'm currently running ZERO counterspells.

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Originally posted by Havoc Demon:
So how many EDH decks do you guys have built? I have two put together and just deconstructed my third one partially to getting bored with it/not having enough time to play all three.

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G Ezuri
BWU Sen Triplets
W Akroma, Angel of Wrath(girlfriend's)
All five precons(Kaalia is gf's also)

The BUG precon and Sen triplets are probably getting deconstructed soon to build Damia. I'm hoping to one day rebuild around Zedruu, and I may leave Riku/Ghave together as is or make minor modifications. I also have a Jhoira deck in the works, but instead of Suspend big things -> Suspend Obliterate it's going to be a chaos deck. It runs every blue and red enchantment/creature/spell with the sole purpose of making the game a headache. I guess you could call it the opposite of a "group hug" deck.

RWU Zedruu (For Multiplayer) and Ruhan (1v1)
Almost complete, just working on getting a few more cards that go to your opponent.

GB Vhati-Il Dal
Still working on getting the bigger pieces such as Pernicious Deed, but the deck is based around getting lots of mana. Necro, Bargain, Cadaverous Bloom/Squandered Resources to power out an Exsanguinate. Deck is full of Dauthi and Spikes. Love the old school stuff. Still a workin progress (check out my list).

Currently making:
Norin the Wary

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Originally posted by Uthaedeol:
Just realised that Chaos Orb is legal in Commander. Awesome.

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