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daner
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Originally posted by revenger:
So far whats been spoiled, im not to impressed. i hope wotc kicks it up with other cards that r later revealed. who thinks this set is gonna just be rehashed old mechanics?

Really dude? Really? 8 cards...EIGHT have been released. Nobody has played with them, or drafted, or knows what the other 245+ cards are....are you kidding me? You're starting to bitch already? Jesus ****ing Christ man!

Nothing pleases people anymore, just give it a chance geez!

 
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quote:
Originally posted by -PoX-:
Yeah, well I would like to see Uncle Itsvan and Frankenstein's Monster reprinted.

WHO'S UNCLE IS HE? WHAT??


Don't forget the Angry Mob, the Exorcist, the City of Shadows, the Sorrow's Path and the Grave Robbers! The Dark representing up in this thread.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by stab107:
Don't forget the Angry Mob, the Exorcist, the City of Shadows, the Sorrow's Path and the Grave Robbers! The Dark representing up in this thread.

Exorcist doesn't even make sense, flavourwise. How does a random rat or robber die from some random priest?

 
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Originally posted by daner:Really dude? Really? 8 cards...EIGHT have been released. Nobody has played with them, or drafted, or knows what the other 245+ cards are....are you kidding me? You're starting to bitch already? Jesus ****ing Christ man! Nothing pleases people anymore, just give it a chance geez!
Thus why I said "I hope they start spoiling cards that makes it better". im waiting for the bigger & better one's to start showing. time will tell. till then, bleh.

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Vengie, did you read the article I linked to?

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Originally posted by Bugger:Vengie, did you read the article I linked to?
I read up to a certain part, my cell wont load the next page needed to finish reading it tho. (and ive filled my 3 posts per thread quota today for this thread, will post on here again tomm!)

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quote:
Originally posted by stab107:
Don't forget the Angry Mob, the Exorcist, the City of Shadows, the Sorrow's Path and the Grave Robbers! The Dark representing up in this thread.

how do you leave out headless horseman!? I know he's from legends but he fits right in!

 
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By itself, the art reminds me of Magic's early years and embodies the history of M:tG artwork.
The design team has really done a wonderful job capturing the nostalgic flavor in my opinion.
 
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As someone who rarely plays Magic any more and has absolutely hated almost all of the recent blocks from a lore/art/style/theme standpoint, this is the first time in a LONG while that I've actually been interested enough in a set that I might go to a few drafts again.

The art direction with this set already has me interested. The Dark is my all time favorite set, partly because of nostalgia because I was just a kid then starting to get into MTG, but also because the flavor of the set was just awesome. This reminds me a bit of that, though obviously done in a "newer MTG" sort of way.

We'll see what comes of it, but I don't even care if the set is weak and the cards suck if the art and flavor of the set are as cool as what's been released thus far!

 
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I'm already super happy.

1) Flashback
2) Flashback between Colors (Travel Preparations)
3) More +1/+1 Counter cards (Travel Preparations.Mikaeus, the Lunarch) meaning interaction with prolifirate.
4) Werewolves and Vampires, hopefully not the Twilight kind
5) Bloodgift Demon (Phyrexian Arena on a creature)

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quote:
Originally posted by farsk8dutch:
By itself, the art reminds me of Magic's early years and embodies the history of M:tG artwork.
The design team has really done a wonderful job capturing the nostalgic flavor in my opinion.

That's to be expected with Richard Garfield in the design team.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by PortlisX:
The Dark is my all time favorite set, partly because of nostalgia because I was just a kid then starting to get into MTG, but also because the flavor of the set was just awesome. This reminds me a bit of that, though obviously done in a "newer MTG" sort of way.

Same here. The cards themselves aren't much to get excited over (barring Maze of course) but the art in that set was extremely well done I thought.

I'll probably try and put together a complete set of Innistrad in foil since I am liking the theme and art so far.

 
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Originally posted by PortlisX:
As someone who rarely plays Magic any more and has absolutely hated almost all of the recent blocks from a lore/art/style/theme standpoint, this is the first time in a LONG while that I've actually been interested enough in a set that I might go to a few drafts again.

The art direction with this set already has me interested. The Dark is my all time favorite set, partly because of nostalgia because I was just a kid then starting to get into MTG, but also because the flavor of the set was just awesome. This reminds me a bit of that, though obviously done in a "newer MTG" sort of way.

We'll see what comes of it, but I don't even care if the set is weak and the cards suck if the art and flavor of the set are as cool as what's been released thus far!


You have hit the nail on the head; this is exactly how I feel. I agree, the set could suck, but I'm already buying into it. This is the first time in a long while that I can't wait for a set to come out.

EDIT: I should also mention, I think it would a good place for Recurring Nightmare to, well, recur.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by coasterdude84 on August 27, 2011]

 
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So the enemy version of core set duals are going to in Innistrad.
 
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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
So the enemy version of core set duals are going to in Innistrad.

Would rather have the shock duals, but those will work.

 
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Originally posted by gaeacradle:So the enemy version of core set duals are going to in Innistrad.
SWEET! Now the set looking better. prolly should preorder a box or at least get me 4x u/g dual.
 
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Soo, the transform cards have 2 printed sides, and no normal magic back. I dislike immensely.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/157a

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Wow, different card backs? Boy that is ever so awkward. I think we all knew it was one of those cool things that they couldn't do for logistic reasons but I guess not!

Next up: the color purple.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by -PoX-:
Wow, different card backs? Boy that is ever so awkward. I think we all knew it was one of those cool things that they couldn't do for logistic reasons but I guess not!

Next up: the color purple.


Different card backs are incredibly stupid. So I have to de-sleeve it after I play it?

 
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Originally posted by thror:
Soo, the transform cards have 2 printed sides, and no normal magic back. I dislike immensely.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/157a


Whoa... This is mindboggling. Oy.

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Originally posted by Bugger:
Whoa... This is mindboggling. Oy.


What exactly was wrong with Flip? That's exactly what these are. Why not just bring it back?

 
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Originally posted by Volcanon:
What exactly was wrong with Flip? That's exactly what these are. Why not just bring it back?

This is exactly what I was thinking.

2-sided cards are pretty annoying for drafting.

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Garruk Relentless is likely a Planeswalker and since it Transforms, that solves the 5 loyalty ability Planeswalker riddle.

After reading about the mechanics and seeing how flavorful the example cards are, I really think this set is going to rock. The cards are oozing with flavor and I really enjoy the idea of Transform (though tracking the triggers might get annoying). The curses look like they will be fun and fight is a sweet evergreen rules term.

At first I was skeptical that they could make this work but now I am not only optimistic but excited. I find the horror genre is one where most things just suck because it's hard to do good Horror well. There is tons of chaff in Horror, maybe even moreso than Fantasy, and I was afraid that this set might just be more chaff. Suffice to say, I don't think this is on the chaff side (though we have but a handful of cards so I could be wrong, but given the track record of the design/development team, I highly doubt it. I have a lot of faith in Dr. Garfield and Mr. Rosewater).

I will definitely be going to a pre-release for this one.

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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
What exactly was wrong with Flip? That's exactly what these are. Why not just bring it back?

I find flip cards to be incredibly ugly and the limited size makes designing interesting flip cards an unnecessary challenge. This way they have more design space to work with, along with a more clear indication of what state the card is in (night vs day). The checklist that is included in packs solves the play problem to some extent and it is a pretty interesting solution. This mechanic might turn out to be a pain to implement while playing but if it gives us better/more interesting cards, I think that's worth it.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by stab107 on August 27, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by stab107:
Garruk Relentless is likely a Planeswalker and since it Transforms, that solves the 5 loyalty ability Planeswalker riddle.

After reading about the mechanics and seeing how flavorful the example cards are, I really think this set is going to rock. The cards are oozing with flavor and I really enjoy the idea of Transform (though tracking the triggers might get annoying). The curses look like they will be fun and fight is a sweet evergreen rules term.

At first I was skeptical that they could make this work but now I am not only optimistic but excited. I find the horror genre is one where most things just suck because it's hard to do good Horror well. There is tons of chaff in Horror, maybe even moreso than Fantasy, and I was afraid that this set might just be more chaff. Suffice to say, I don't think this is on the chaff side (though we have but a handful of cards so I could be wrong, but given the track record of the design/development team, I highly doubt it. I have a lot of faith in Dr. Garfield and Mr. Rosewater).

I will definitely be going to a pre-release for this one.

edit: I find flip cards to be incredibly ugly and the limited size makes designing interesting flip cards an unnecessary challenge. This way they have more design space to work with, along with a more clear indication of what state the card is in (night vs day). The checklist that is included in packs solves the play problem to some extent and it is a pretty interesting solution. This mechanic might turn out to be a pain to implement while playing but if it gives us better/more interesting cards, I think that's worth it.


Nah. Nothing will make me think this isn't crap. Half the time I don't draft with sleeves. I don't want to play with no stupid checklist either. I sincerely hope that none of these are tournament playable in any meaningful way so that I don't ever have to play with them.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by PortlisX:
As someone who rarely plays Magic any more and has absolutely hated almost all of the recent blocks from a lore/art/style/theme standpoint, (...)

Same here. The set can suck and be The Dark 2, but I think it's awesome so far. I love the flavor in it. Now let's hope they do a revisit to Jamuraa.

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