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Topic: Innistrad Spoiler!
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daner Member
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posted August 29, 2011 05:30 PM
I can't wait to alter some foils with pictures of Michael Jackson from "Thriller".
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revenger Member
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posted August 29, 2011 05:37 PM
Wow. Enemy colored dual lands. I want 4x Hinterland Harbor and 4x Isolated Chapel already. I can't wait for em. Unfort, they gonna be expesnive out of the gate aint they?~Revenger __________________ Your 2008 and 2010 Motl Siskel & Ebert award winner! Need a 3rd party trader? I'm available! Email me if interested.
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helpmehelpyou Member
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posted August 29, 2011 05:38 PM
what kind of value has been poiled so far?here are my guesses.. Dearly Departed - $1 Elite Inquisitor - $3 (depends on how much "tribal" sees play or if ww makes any splash) Mikaeus, the Lunarch - $1 Ludevic's Test Subject // Ludevic's Abomination - $.25 Bloodgift Demon - $3 to 5 (it has some edh and t2 appeal) Devil's Play - $.25 (unless chandra/phenix deck gets more) Daybreak Ranger // Nightfall Predator - $.25 Mayor of Avabruck // Howlpack Alpha - $3 to 5 Olivia Voldaren - $10 early down to like $5 or less Creepy Doll - $5 down to $1 enemy duals - $5 nothing really screams "chase" to me yet feel free to argue or take a guess what you think they might be worth
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Bugger Member
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posted August 29, 2011 06:24 PM
You left off:Garruk Relentless - 40$+ (competitively costed at 3G, and has 5 loyalty abilities) Liliana of the veil - 30$+ assuming she costs 4 mana. __________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
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Heresy19 Member
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posted August 29, 2011 06:34 PM
@Bugger :It was confirmed that Liliana is the PW with 5 abilities... does it mean that there's 2 PW with 5 abilities??? BTW, I REALLY love the new ''duals''
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helpmehelpyou Member
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posted August 29, 2011 06:37 PM
meh im kind of sick of the whole "planeswalkers as the chase" gimmick.there cool and all.. but yeah other stuff needs its time in the spotlight to
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-PoX- Member
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posted August 29, 2011 06:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by helpmehelpyou:
feel free to argue or take a guess what you think they might be worth
Those all feel kinda high except for the 13/13. I'm guessing it won't break a buck, but I'm hoping someone finds a way to make it good. It's just too easy to kill once it flips though. But in a control deck with proliferate ( Tezzeret's Gambit? Contagion Clasp? ) it might just make some kind of hilarious deck I mean, it does only cost 2 and blocks for 3 and it's not like you'll cry if they kill it as soon as you play it. Sadly it probably sucks way too much. :,(
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Heresy19 Member
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posted August 29, 2011 06:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by helpmehelpyou: meh im kind of sick of the whole "planeswalkers as the chase" gimmick.there cool and all.. but yeah other stuff needs its time in the spotlight to
I'm not a fan of PWs, but Tezz 2.0 and Jace 2.0 are pretty cool It's fun to get some in packs and trade them away for bigger/more useful stuff. I want more PWs like them (Chandra 3.0 is pretty awesome too, I might try her soon).
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nderdog Moderator
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posted August 29, 2011 06:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by ryan2754: Nder, I still hate the new card frames haha. I like the old, and I like the future shifted. If a card is made in said frames, I'd rather have that one (Meddling Mage, etc.)
Not liking it is fine. Claiming that it's the death of Magic and you're quitting over it is what is ridiculous. I'm very saddened by how many people are whining about how terrible double-sided cards are and how it's the worst mechanic ever before they ever get to even see all of the cards and what they can do, let alone get to the point of actually trying them out and playing with them a bit. It's sheer stupidity. __________________ There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here!All your Gruul Nodorogs are belong to me. Trade them to me, please! Report rules violations. Remember the Auctions Board!
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Goaswerfraiejen Member
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posted August 29, 2011 06:58 PM
You can still temporarily quit over it, of course: just don't acquire any cards/draft/play sealed for the duration of the block. That's what I did with Kamigawa, and I don't regret it for one moment. I'm pretty sure the only Kamigawa card I own is Hand of Cruelty.__________________ "I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think they will sing to me." -T.S. EliotRIP Ari Legacy UGB River Rock primer. PM comments/questions. Info on grad school in Phil.
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Bugger Member
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posted August 29, 2011 08:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: @Bugger :It was confirmed that Liliana is the PW with 5 abilities... does it mean that there's 2 PW with 5 abilities??? BTW, I REALLY love the new ''duals''
Confirmed where. How can five abilities fit on a single card? To me it makes overwhelming sense to have the planeswalker with five abilities be on a double-faced card (two on one side, three on the other). 99% sure garruk, being a DFC, is the one with 5 abilities.
__________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
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Heresy19 Member
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posted August 29, 2011 08:12 PM
Yeah Garruk has been confirmed to be a 2 sided card with 5 abilities. Liliana has been confirmed with 5 abilities too but no clue if she's a 2 sided card as well.Mods confirmed the evidences shown to them in PM for Liliana ....on ..... well.... yeah, mtgsalvation :P And Mark Rosewater confirmed Garuk as a 5 abilities 2 sided card
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Bugger Member
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posted August 29, 2011 08:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: Yeah Garruk has been confirmed to be a 2 sided card with 5 abilities. Liliana has been confirmed with 5 abilities too but no clue if she's a 2 sided card as well.Mods confirmed the evidences shown to them in PM for Liliana ....on ..... well.... yeah, mtgsalvation :P And Mark Rosewater confirmed Garuk as a 5 abilities 2 sided card
I'm not seeing her in the spoiler. Could you link please? __________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
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skizzikmonger Member
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posted August 29, 2011 08:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by Bugger: I'm not seeing her in the spoiler. Could you link please?
It's a post in their rumor mill forum, and it's been closed. quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: no clue if she's a 2 sided card as well.
She isn't (see checklist)
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Bugger Member
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posted August 29, 2011 08:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: It's a post in their rumor mill forum, and it's been closed.
From the mod post closing the page: quote: If this does indeed turn out to be fake, as is looking quite likely, we'll deal with it then. Closed for now.
...yeah, my money's still on Garruk. Not Liliana. Edit: have I ever mentioned just how much I love the quality of the posts on MOTL, and the extremely high average intelligence of the posters here? Because holy hell are there ever some brain-dead mouthbreathers posting in the future set speculation forum on the magic forums. I read these people's posts and keep instincually wondering. "when is Slinga gonna up and ban this little **** already?". God bless MOTL and everyone in it, is I guess the moral of this story. __________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
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JasonX-NL Member
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posted August 29, 2011 11:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Bugger: have I ever mentioned just how much I love the quality of the posts on MOTL, and the extremely high average intelligence of the posters here? God bless MOTL and everyone in it, is I guess the moral of this story.
I totally agree. Now back to Innistrad: Dark Ritual will be in it right? RIGHT? /amIdoinitrite?
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skizzikmonger Member
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posted August 29, 2011 11:57 PM
Reaper of the Abyss 3BBB Creature-Demon Flying Morbid- At the beginning of each end step, if a creature died this turn, destroy target non-Demon creature. 6/6Mentor of the Meek 2W Creature - Human Soldier Whenever another creature with power 2 or less enters the battlefield under your control, you may pay 1. If you do, draw a card. 2/2
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WeedIan Member
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posted August 30, 2011 04:45 AM
I like the Flavor of the reaper. The Mentor also seems decent. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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Myy Member
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posted August 30, 2011 10:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: Reaper of the AbyssMentor of the Meek 2W Creature - Human Soldier Whenever another creature with power 2 or less enters the battlefield under your control, you may pay 1. If you do, draw a card. 2/2
I ownder if this can be broken in elves? i believe it's worth a try
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SageShadows Member
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posted August 30, 2011 10:02 AM
Elves have Glimpse in Legacy. Dunno about the other formats.
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Myy Member
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posted August 30, 2011 10:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by SageShadows: Elves have Glimpse in Legacy. Dunno about the other formats.
exactly, this card reminds me so much of glimpse. but they banned it in Modern, and it'n not legal in standard. so it might work I think. a GW build. In modern you still have all the otehr pieces, like heritage, sentinel, It'd be easy.
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coasterdude84 Member
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posted August 30, 2011 10:21 AM
In case anyone missed it, MaRo in his article yesterday stated the double-faced cards are printed on a separate sheet, and are collated such that every pack will have 1 in it, taking the place of a common, regardless of what rarity the double-faced card is. Also, the checklist takes the place of the basic land in 3 out of 4 packs, so they've cut down the number of basics in the set to 3 each instead of the usual 4. He also states the checklists could not be printed on the rules insert sheet because of a different cardstock and finish. So unless you're drafting every double-faced card you see, I wouldn't worry too much about having a checklist to use. I guess the only question I still have is can I get foil checklists?Our playgroup has decided a sealed booster box tournament is in order. As in, everyone buys a box and builds from that. I'm kinda stoked for this.
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TimeBeing Member
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posted August 30, 2011 10:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: Yeah Garruk has been confirmed to be a 2 sided card with 5 abilities. Liliana has been confirmed with 5 abilities too but no clue if she's a 2 sided card as well.Mods confirmed the evidences shown to them in PM for Liliana ....on ..... well.... yeah, mtgsalvation :P And Mark Rosewater confirmed Garuk as a 5 abilities 2 sided card
Liliana is not a flip card. We know that Garruk is because he is on the checklist card. Garruk being a flip card (which is one per pack) even at mythic is likely going to be more common then a normal mythic by a little, depending on how many mythic flips there are. So i doubt its going to hold a 30$ price tag.
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hilikuS Member
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posted August 30, 2011 11:32 AM
So if each pack contains exactly 1 of the flips, it depends on how they distribute the rare, common, uncommon and mythic flip cards, right?I mean, if it's just a random flip card in each pack, you have a 1/20 chance for Garruk. It may not actually work that way though. So you might have a situation where the Garruk is harder to open than under normal circumstances. EDIT: Just read through the part of the article, and the percentages are supposed to be very close to that of your normal chances for a mythic. So that means it will be the same frequency as a regular mythic. This also means the days of Time Spiral are back where you can open a pack with 3 rares! Woo HOO!
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CubFan81 Member
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posted August 30, 2011 11:47 AM
Quick note..they're not flip cards. The Kamigawa block cards are flip cards, these are double faced.MaRo mentioned in his article that even though they'll be in every pack, the distribution would be pretty close to normal for the double faced cards. With only 20 double faced cards in all I would guess there'd be somewhere between 7-9 commons, 4-6 uncommons, 3-4 rares and 2-3 mythic. So assuming still one Mythic double faced card every 8ish packs there's 4ish per box and it shouldn't be too hard to get them. __________________ PMs don't work in Chrome or Firefox 4.0+, see HERE for work arounds.
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