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choco man Member	posted September 01, 2011 01:40 PM quote: Originally posted by Bugger: Rooftop Storm might just be my favorite magic card ever. So cheeky If someone told me that card existed maybe 3-4 years ago, I'd be like, "Is that card even real?" Guess I'm going to have to abandon Balthor EDH, for Dralnu EDH
mgoodridge Member	posted September 01, 2011 02:44 PM Anyone else think that Mikaeus, the Lunarch will be a decent substitute for Steel Overseer in Tempered Steel post rotation?
WeedIan Member	posted September 01, 2011 03:02 PM quote: Originally posted by mgoodridge: Anyone else think that Mikaeus, the Lunarch will be a decent substitute for Steel Overseer in Tempered Steel post rotation? I don't' really like steel overseer in that deck anyways but ya Mikaues helps the deck quite a big.
Bugger Member	posted September 01, 2011 04:20 PM quote: Originally posted by choco man: If someone told me that card existed maybe 3-4 years ago, I'd be like, "Is that card even real?" Guess I'm going to have to abandon Balthor EDH, for Dralnu EDH Yeah Zombie EDH here I come. I wish there was a general in blue and white that'd be good for zombies since white has so many enchantment tutors... __________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
-PoX- Member	posted September 01, 2011 05:20 PM Rooftop storm is weak. Definitely should have let you pick a creature type for it instead of forcing zombies. Now it's like a terrible, terrible Alluren.
choco man Member	posted September 01, 2011 05:53 PM quote: Originally posted by -PoX-: Rooftop storm is weak. Definitely should have let you pick a creature type for it instead of forcing zombies. Now it's like a terrible, terrible Alluren. I don't think it was meant to be a competitive card like Aluren.
Bugger Member	posted September 01, 2011 05:58 PM quote: Originally posted by choco man: I don't think it was meant to be a competitive card like Aluren. +1000 That's like saying Ancient visions or whatever that m12 card is named is a really terrible ancestral recall. No ****. __________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
Havoc Demon Member	posted September 01, 2011 06:27 PM quote: Originally posted by -PoX-: Rooftop storm is weak. Definitely should have let you pick a creature type for it instead of forcing zombies. Now it's like a terrible, terrible Alluren. Wouldn't have made any sense unless it was Zombie or Horror. Maybe Beast but that would be a stretch. __________________ Most References in Massachusetts 88th All-time Support my friend's store: http://www.tabletoparena.com
mgoodridge Member	posted September 01, 2011 08:26 PM quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: I don't' really like steel overseer in that deck anyways but ya Mikaues helps the deck quite a big. What do you like instead?
skizzikmonger Member	posted September 01, 2011 09:31 PM Garruk Relentless
JoshSherman Member	posted September 01, 2011 09:40 PM quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: Garruk Relentless Very interesting. He may be tough to protect without Overgrown Battlement. __________________ JoshweekLetter Bombs!Facebook Me Logout- I had it first!
iccarus Member	posted September 01, 2011 09:42 PM quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: Garruk Relentless I like him a lot. Will certainly be picking up one for my Savra EDH deck. All of his abilities fit great in there, between making tokens and allowing me to sac creatures as well. I don't know if he'll be tearing up the tournament scene, but I can see him doing some good stuff. Being able to pick off a 1/1 or 2/2 and then flip seems like a decent ability for green to have __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air! I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
AtriumXP Member	posted September 01, 2011 09:45 PM Seems like a pretty decent strategy vs. aggro, if a little costly at 4-cmc (for that role). EDIT: Also, is his flipped side considered to be just Green (as the casting cost of the face suggests), or is it actually Black and Green (as the border colors would suggest)? __________________ Check my List! I send in bubble mailer + top loader + soft sleeve AtriumXP@gmail.com (e-mail/PayPal) I answer ref requests! Rippers, fear my Mail Fraud Form! [Edited 1 times, lastly by AtriumXP on September 01, 2011]
-PoX- Member	posted September 01, 2011 09:52 PM No idea what to think about Garruk. Seems worse than the old one. On the other hand, Endless Ranks of the Dead seems to have potential. Hm let's see. Turn 1-3 zombies, drop this with 3 guys... Then you have 4, 6, 9, 13.... Yeah maybe it's not that great. quote: Originally posted by Havoc Demon: Wouldn't have made any sense unless it was Zombie or Horror. Maybe Beast but that would be a stretch. Doesn't really make any sense right now either. I don't know if you've ever seen Frankenstein but there's only one monster that comes out of that lab and he ain't free, they need body parts. It's clearly meant to be a casual card, I think they wasted it by trying to make it flavorful over flexible.
stab107 Member	posted September 01, 2011 10:08 PM Definitely not feeling the new Garruk. The horror theme is there in the form of Wolves but how can a relentless Garruk produce weaker creatures than a normal/primal Garruk? That doesn't feel particularly relentless. This one may be a miss but there is so much sweet stuff going on elsewhere in this set. Rooftop Storm just oozes flavor, I love it!
JoshSherman Member	posted September 01, 2011 10:16 PM quote: Originally posted by stab107: Definitely not feeling the new Garruk. The horror theme is there in the form of Wolves but how can a relentless Garruk produce weaker creatures than a normal/primal Garruk? That doesn't feel particularly relentless. This one may be a miss but there is so much sweet stuff going on elsewhere in this set. Rooftop Storm just oozes flavor, I love it! Think of him as a mercenary. You spend less mana to call on him, you get less powerful results.
SageShadows Member	posted September 01, 2011 10:18 PM quote: Originally posted by -PoX-: No idea what to think about Garruk. Seems worse than the old one. On the other hand, Endless Ranks of the Dead seems to have potential. Hm let's see. Turn 1-3 zombies, drop this with 3 guys... Then you have 4, 6, 9, 13.... Yeah maybe it's not that great. Doesn't really make any sense right now either. I don't know if you've ever seen Frankenstein but there's only one monster that comes out of that lab and he ain't free, they need body parts. It's clearly meant to be a casual card, I think they wasted it by trying to make it flavorful over flexible. For the sake of flavor, there are tons of graveyards he can just take a stroll to to pick up some arms and legs and whatnot.
caquaa Member	posted September 01, 2011 10:23 PM quote: Originally posted by AtriumXP: EDIT: Also, is his flipped side considered to be just Green (as the casting cost of the face suggests), or is it actually Black and Green (as the border colors would suggest)? the color of the circle on the type line defines the colors of the card... ie:green and black.
farsk8dutch Member	posted September 02, 2011 12:02 AM quote: Originally posted by AtriumXP: Seems like a pretty decent strategy vs. aggro, if a little costly at 4-cmc (for that role). EDIT: Also, is his flipped side considered to be just Green (as the casting cost of the face suggests), or is it actually Black and Green (as the border colors would suggest)? When flipped the color is suggesting he goes into Night mode, that's all. Just like the rest of Day/Night flip cards. [Edited 1 times, lastly by farsk8dutch on September 02, 2011]
caquaa Member	posted September 02, 2011 12:18 AM quote: Originally posted by farsk8dutch: When flipped the color is suggesting he goes into Night mode, that's all. Just like the rest of Day/Night flip cards. incorrect
skizzikmonger Member	posted September 02, 2011 05:07 AM Divine Reckoning 2WW Sorcery Each player chooses a creature he or she controls. Destroy the rest. Flashback 5WW New toy for control
caquaa Member	posted September 02, 2011 05:29 AM quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: Divine Reckoning 2WW Sorcery Each player chooses a creature he or she controls. Destroy the rest. Flashback 5WW New toy for control maybe, but I'm pretty sure I prefer blowing up everything. I hate pesky things that stick around. I know the ideal play would be to leave your own con sphinx vs their whatever, but I don't see that happening so much. also, I'm not one thats much for the H/W forum, but I decided to take a little stroll through some lists. Any list where I had some reasonable extra wants like forces or fetches and such I'd get sorta excited that I might get to trade.... then the haves second wants always really small things. The lists don't even have swords or such... what gives. If you're going to list something in your wants, make sure that if you TOTAL your haves together that you can at least afford that one card, or just go ahead and remove it ;p
hilikuS Member	posted September 02, 2011 05:59 AM quote: Originally posted by stab107: Definitely not feeling the new Garruk. The horror theme is there in the form of Wolves but how can a relentless Garruk produce weaker creatures than a normal/primal Garruk? That doesn't feel particularly relentless. This one may be a miss but there is so much sweet stuff going on elsewhere in this set. Rooftop Storm just oozes flavor, I love it! Relentless because he can keep on poping out wolves forever and ever, and then if you try to kill him, he flips, and makes more wolves (with deathtouch). [Edited 1 times, lastly by hilikuS on September 02, 2011]
AtriumXP Member	posted September 02, 2011 07:27 AM quote: Originally posted by caquaa: [B]maybe, but I'm pretty sure I prefer blowing up everything. I hate pesky things that stick around. I know the ideal play would be to leave your own con sphinx vs their whatever, but I don't see that happening so much. Very much agreed, and more often than not, your opponent has spot removal to take out your remaining creature; you're just making it easier to lose if you don't wipe the board, lol. __________________ Check my List! I send in bubble mailer + top loader + soft sleeve AtriumXP@gmail.com (e-mail/PayPal) I answer ref requests! Rippers, fear my Mail Fraud Form! :mad:
fluffycow Member	posted September 02, 2011 08:41 AM What do you guys think of mindshrieker? 1U Flying 2:Mill target player for 1 card and ~gets +x/+x where x= converted mana cost. 1/1 I pre-ordered him, the only reason why I like him is because you can have him out, keep a counter and mill your opponent @ EOT.

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